infuriating. My next question becomes what candidate did these clowns try to railroad the state into supporting? Sounds like a situation of these clowns living up to their membership of a branch of the DEMOCRAT party--the Republicans. I see nowhere in that video where the "leadership" conducted itself in accordance with the rules, followed the will of the people, and behaved in a manner consistent with the idea that they're SUPPOSED to be the conservative party of the United States. Sounded like they were just more of the power-mongers, trying to keep the GOP "buddy system" alive and well, and doing their best to contribute to the downfall of America.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuQIMfMVMYg&feature=player_embedded"]Bryan Spencer Speaks about Rigging St. Charles Caucus - YouTube[/ame] Spencer admits to fraud and admits he looked at what was going on in previous states for ways to do it.....
fraud is what's being committed by ron paul and his hijackers this will not stand and ron paul won't be nominated by the gop
Ron Paul supporters are demanding the GoP's own rules are followed. Period.. Another video where they flat out admit they are doing everything they can to make sure Paul doesnt get enough delegates... http://www.examiner.com/conspiracy-...den-camera-excluding-ron-paul-delegates-video He even states it to combat the "savagery of the opposition". Aka people demanding rules are followed even of they are not convienent to the GoP Establishment. Why even have the delegate process if the GoP is going to tell people who they can vote on for delegates?
wrong, a small minority of voters are attempting to steal the election from the majority isn't ron paul supposed to be against stealing?
Majority what? The popular vote in those states are moot. Its the delegates that matter. Ron Paul supporters are following the GoP rules. The GoP is breaking their own rules because there handpicked candidates are having trouble gaining delegates in those states. Santorum, Romney and Gingrich supporters could be doing the same thing Paul supporters are doing but strangely enough the "minority" of people outnumber the other Candidates supporters. Paul gathers larger crowds and has more support when it comes to electing delegates. Just shows you how fraudulent the tallies are for the popular vote.
no it's not, it's the basis on which delegates are allocated if ron paul had the majority of popular vote and romney started using the hijacking tactic, you guys would be screaming bloody murder yea, because most people aren't crazed like the average ron paulogist and have some sense of fairplay and decorum
Why? Because fat lazy "XYZ" supporters who spent roughly 20minutes of their life to vote can't spend more time to vote again for their delegates? It only goes to show how lazy and how ignorant most Americans are when they're flipping out that Ron Paul is winning delegates when they themselves could get off their asses and be there. Pure laziness. Fair play? That is how the game works. It's nothing new... It has been going on for decades. To come out and say it isn't fair when it's been done for decades show how ignorant you truly are. Why don't you go take a crap, pull your pants up and complain that you didn't bother to wipe your butt then proceed to blame the system on how to do a #2.
Its amazing. Following the GoP rules was fine and dandy when the Establishment Candidates were getting selected now that Ron Paul is gaining delegates its not "fair play". I hope Paul is saving all these tapes of fraud for the Brokered Convention.....
i don't know where you've been for the last 50 years, but that's not how the game works the rule is that when a candidate gets a large majority of the votes, he's elected exceptions to the rule occur, but it's very rare, as in 2000 with bush v gore
In PRIMARY STATES Not in CAUCUS STATES (Unless the people at the Delegate votes are the Majority!) A non-binding Straw Poll is for Show.
here's the bottom line, ron paul is only getting a small minority of votes overall in the primaries, he's not going to be nominated because he doesn't deserve to be no trick or underhanded scheme is going to change that
notice how i didn't say that the gop leadership, rank and file don't want to be taken over by howling libertarian crazies
hijacking isn't part of the rules, it won't stand, ron paul's true colors are showing more and more every day Study: Ron Paul’s House seat enriches his family - By Ed O'Keefe Turns out it pays to serve in Congress — if you’re the lawmaker’s [brother], son, grandson, niece or cousin. A new report by Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) found “an extraordinary compendium of creative accounting, self-interested budgeting and generous expense reimbursements” by lawmakers in the last two election cycles. The “Family Affair” report “highlights common practices that translate into tens of millions of dollars in payments to relatives or the lawmakers themselves,” reports Eric Lipton in The New York Times. — Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), a GOP presidential hopeful, paid more than $300,000 in salaries or fees to his daughter, brother, grandson, daughter’s mother-in-law, granddaughter and grandson-in-law, the report said. http://www.politicalforum.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1061071884a
i did that already in high school civics class in 1972, plus a few poli sci classes at university Is my vote for President and Vice President meaningful in the Electoral College system? Yes, within your state, your vote has a great deal of significance. Under the Electoral College system, we do not elect the President and Vice President through a direct nation-wide vote. We select electors, who pledge their electoral vote to a specific candidate. In December, the electors of each state meet to vote for President and Vice President. The Presidential election is decided by the combined results of the 51 (the 50 states and the District of Columbia) state elections. It is possible that an elector could ignore the results of the popular vote, but that occurs very rarely. http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html
This is completely unacceptable and I've seen similar situations occurring throughout this race, it makes me wonder how much we should trust the major news outlets the generally ignore this issue.
