Gillard-Brown government to slap a green climate friendly sticker on uour homes!

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  1. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    The Gillard-Brown government has plans to slap a green climate friendly sticker on all our homes.

    What will this do to the value of your home?

    How much will most of us have to spend to bring it up to standard?

    Well i say this minority government which came into power by the lowest of margins has no right to do any major works until they win government out right with election promises.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Do you have a source for this? I don't doubt you but would like to read more about this.
     
  3. dumbanddumber

    dumbanddumber New Member

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    Hey Mak

    This is an old article i posted on another thread, but yesterday on ABC the reporter was saying that this is going to be Gillard - Brown Government NEXT achievement, so keep listening to the news.

    Here is the old article
    http://www.news.com.au/money/proper...ll/story-e6frfmd0-1226105201198#ixzz1TduIGVhq

    The old thread
    http://www.politicalforum.com/australia/207807-selling-your-home-its-slug-time-green-style.html
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for the article, and I disagree with it. Its not fair to force people to make their homes more green friendly before they can sell it. Make waste money on that when they are selling the house? I would think the new owners can fix things if they wanted.
     
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    I say we shouldn't have it at all.

    The worrying thing is what will this do to the value of our homes!
     
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    The story is nonsense. He has tried to post it before.

    No one is forcing anyone to make their homes more green friendly before they can sell it. There is no "$800 'green tax'". It is simply crap.

    Here is the website for the Nationwide House Energy Rating Scheme
    http://www.nathers.gov.au/contacts.html

    There is no "tax". Nothing

    Queensland has had Sustainability Declarations for years for the sale of houses. They do not cost a cent to fill out. You don't even have to fill it out if you don't want to.

    Stop posting this nonsense D&D. It is pathetic.
     
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    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Why would a supposedly reputable news outlet pick up on the story though?
     
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    If there wasn't any truth behind the story, the Government would force a retraction, and an apology from the newspaper.

    Considering they haven't done this makes me believe the old saying: "where there's smoke, there's fire".
     
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    A supposedly reputable news outlet didn't pick it up. THe Sunday Telegraph did. "Limited News" strikes again.

    But read the actual story. What is in the text does not support the "New $800 'green tax' mooted on homes - you must pay before you can sell" headline at all.

    THe single fact the story is based on is this:
    Mandatory energy ratings were being introduced to establish a credible and uniform system, a spokesperson for Department of Climate Change and Energy Efficiency said.

    Which is a good idea. As I have said - it has been in Qld for years and it does not cost a cent to fill out the Sustainable Declaration Form.

    No one has to do anything to their houses if they don't want. It is simply a form where you can (if you want) declare that you have insulation, solar hot water, low flow taps etc etc whatever.
     
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    bugalugs Banned

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    errrrr...yes.

    Adding improvements like insulation, solar hot water, PV etc DOES affect the sales price of your house. So does not having them.

    Wow! You must be in real estate!
     
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    You know what if i could tell Julia and Bob face to face to (*)(*)(*)(*) off i would.

    They were not elected to do the things they are doing.

    I think they are working for the bankers or the new world order or someone other than for Australia.

    Everything they are doing will affect us big time.

    Noone gave them the liscence to do that.

    If anything they should be a care taker government.

    The worst government that i can remember from youth.
     
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    Direct quote from the TROLL Gillard herself admitting the UN is the New World Order, but unfortunately people like bugs will spend the rest of his life trying to shove his head up his arse, because Gillard & Brown told him too. The quote came from a DFAT document, but this will not be a good enough source for the Labor idiot brigade on here. LOL

    http://www.wakeup2thelies.com/2011/...orld-order-are-emerging-but-not-yet-apparent/
     
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    bugalugs Banned

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    This statement frightens you?!?!?!:
    “The importance of the Security Council to the maintenance of international peace and security is as great now as it ever has been. Not since the founding of the United Nations have we faced such uncertain times, when the contours of a new world order are emerging but not yet apparent.

    The Council needs members who are not only willing to support it with words, but also through deeds…..”


    Why?!?!?

    And what does Australia being a member of the UNSC have to do with a uniform system of energy rating for housing?
     
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    Wrong Buggsy.

    "A sustainability declaration is a
    compulsory checklist that must be
    completed by the seller when selling
    a house, townhouse (class 1a
    building) or unit (class 2 building)
    from 1 January 2010".
     
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    This is right, it is compulsory.

    I buy, renovate and sell on average three to four homes per year. It is compulsory although it does not demand you to comply ( at this stage ). No compliance means that the house you sell is not deemed sustainable. Now for people like me that is a device to drive down the asking price. So therefore yes it does devalue your home. No question about it.

    Like everything a government does, it is but a lead up to another Tax or Fee. Sure as the sunrise.

    It is said that this sustainability is good for the buyer and seller. It is good for the buyer, as explained above. However the seller is worse off. It has nothing to do with structural content of homes, purely cosmetic. If air conditioning and heating does not affect the sustainability, even though they use massive amounts of energy, you have to ask yourself how serious this sustainability rubbish really is !!
     
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    It is just more meaningless, time wasting regulation that achieves nothing. God! I home Newman starts getting rid of the absurd level of regulation that Labor has burdened us with.
     
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    It is rare to see a government recuse legislation especially when it derives great income from it. They may denounce it whilst in opposition, but by the time they take government they say what is done is done.
     
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    True, improvements do make a difference to house values, but why are we not surprised at the ALP/GREENS jackbooted approach?
     
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    No. I am not wrong at all.

    I wrote:

    You don't even have to fill it out if you don't want to

    which is correct.

    Here is the form:
    http://www.dlgp.qld.gov.au/resources/form/sustainable-housing/sustainability-declaration-form.pdf

    and in big letters at the top you will see written:
    If you don’t know the answer to any question, please leave the box blank.


    So while the form is compulsory - You don't even have to fill it out if you don't want to. And it costs nothing to fill out (or not fill out - if you prefer)
     
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    The whole point is its an expense that you would have otherwise not had to worry about.
     
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    No. The piece of paper does not "devalue your home"

    It is the fact that you may have not have adequate insulation, or inefficient heating or hot water that is "devaluing your home"

    WTF are you on about? The QLD form (although it is a very poor form and should be improved) does take into consideration air conditioning and heating.
     
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    Yes - in its current form it is.

    But the idea of a national rating system is a good one and it should be properly implemented
     

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