Banning guns = higher crime rate.

you were making a racially based argument.

I responded in kind to show you how ridiculous your argument was.

colin ferguson might be black, but a lot of othe murderers (even excluding perpetrators of mass killings) are white.

 

so what you are saying is that america's murder rate is high because god makes liberal americans commit lots of murders because he doesn't like hypocrites?

thank reason I live in australia where we are more likely to be left of american liberals, and atheists to boot.

seems God thinks we are too far gone to care whether we are hypocrites or not.

 

Black culture is full of interaction, Southern rednecks call it jive talking; it probably helps them more than hurts. But it did not stop a black nut from walking into a mall and shooting at random and then walking outside and standing there as if he did nothing; the only saving grace was the size of his gun:

"He is James Calvin Brady, a 32-year-old man who was released from a mental institution last April and went out the same day and bought a $139 revolver and 12 bullets at a pawnshop. The next day, he caught a bus to Atlanta's Perimeter Mall, ambled over to a crowded food court and opened fire, killing one person and wounding four others." http://www.nytimes.com/1991/04/28/w...is-a-little-gun-control-better-than-none.html

Where does it say he was black? Oh, here it is, you have to go there:

"Original caption:Atlanta: A man identified as James Calvin Brady, 31, is taken to jail from a local police station near the suburban mall where Brady is charged with firing into a crowd of about 200 people killing 1 man and shooting 4 others 4/24. Papers found on Brady indicated he was released from a local mental hospital 4/23."
http://www.corbisimages.com/stock-p...lice-escorting-sniper-james-calvin-brady-into

Pawn shop, and $139, means economics could have played a part in it being less than 20.

It helps gun control if the nut has a history.

 

I have to wonder where you get your information!

it is common knowledge that the US murder rate is higher than that in any other OECD nation.

 

your sources are rubbish.

you also have a very loose understanding of the meaning of "fact" and "truth"

I guess you just don't know you're wrong, which probably vomes from relying on dubious sources that reinforce your beliefs.

There is no excuse for that.

 

you are right. you don't know about australia.

gun crime was not significant here before the buy back, nor was it afterwards.

If there are a lot of guns available, and in the hands of criminals, a gun buy back would not reduce the incidence of gun crime, but I am also not sure that it would increase it either.

there are a number of factors wich can be linked to increases in reported crimes, most of which have nothing to do with the availability of guns.

 

aic figures are the most accurate you will find on Australian data.

did you miss lizard dust's post?

 

Serial Killers come primarily from the Caucasian race.







That proves that my race does indeed embrace exceptionalism when it comes to violent death inflicted randomly on other people.

 

Wrong, I said it was not race but culture. Two different things entirely.

 

He read it, don't worry about that. The OP is just grasping at straws to save face.

 

I think he must be the same troll (from the "Independence Institute", aka NRA) I saw yesterday on a Cross Talk debate on RT.

Same parroting of the same nihilist line.

 

Well, except for those that don't.

Black Serial/Mass/Spree Killer List:
1. Matthew Emanuel Macon (Murdered and Raped 5 White Women in Lansing)
2. Jimmie Reed (Murdered his wife and his 2 month old daughter and set them on fire)
3. Shelly Brooks (Murdered 7 prostitutes in Detroit Cass Corridor)
4. Justin Blackshere (Stabbed two white cooks at Cheli’s Chili downtown Detroit)
5. Jervon Miguel Coleman (Murdered three people.)
6. Donell Ramon Johnson (Murdered a mother and a daughter)
7. Brian Ranard Davis (6 women known murdered by (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*))
8. Paul Durousseau (Seven women)
9. Mark Goudeau “The Baseline Killer” (Eight women and a man in 2005-2006)
10. Coral Eugene Watts (11 women in Texas & 1 in Michigan)
11. Anthony McKnight (Five girls and young women)
12. Derrick Todd Lee (8 Women)
13. Charles Lendelle Carter (4 known murders; admits to ‘hunting’ Atlantans for 15 years!)
14. The Zebra Killings (71 White people)
15. Chester Turner (L.A.s most prolific killer 12 women killed.)
16. Lorenzo J. Gilyard (Kansas City, MO.—13 victims)
17. Eugene Victor Britt (Gary, IN.–3 known murder/rapes.)
18. Reginald and Jonathan Carr (The Wichita Massacre–6 Whites murdered)
19. Ray Joseph Dandridge and his uncle, Ricky Gevon Gray (Richmond, VA.–Murdered 7 people in 7 days, including an entire White family.)
20. The Tinley Park Murderer (Suspect hasn’t been found but has been described as black – murdered 5 women in a store.)
21. Henry Louis Wallace (Raped and strangled 5 women to death.)
22. Charles Johnston (Murdered 3 unarmed white men in hospital)
23. Craig Price (Brutally murdered 3 women)
24. Harrison Graham (Brually Murdered 3 women)
25. Charles Lee “Cookie” Thornton (Murdered 6 Whites at the Kirkwood, MO. city council. )
26. & 27. Darnell Hartsfeld & Romeo Pinkerton (Abducted and Murdered 5 from a restaurant)
28 &29. John Allen Muhammad & Lee Boyd Malvo (Sniped 11 people from a car in DC, 9 died.)
30. George Russell (3 women, WA state)
31. Timothy W. Spencer (5 killed, Arlington, VA and Richmond, VA)
32. Elton M. Jackson (12 gay men killed, Norfolk, VA area)
33. Carlton Gary (3 killed in Columbus, GA)
34. Mohammed Adam Omar (16 women, Yemen. Omar is Sudanese.)
35. Kendall Francois (8 women, Poughkeepsie, NY and surrounding areas.)
36. Terry A. Blair (8 women, Kansas City area)
37. Wayne Williams (33 many of them children!, Atlanta, GA)
38. Vaughn Greenwood (11 killed in LA)
39. Andre Crawford (10 killed in Chicago – southside)
40. Calvin Jackson (9 killed possibley more in NY)
41. Gregory Klepper (killed 8, Chicago – southside)
42. Alton Coleman (Killed 8 in the Midwest)
43. Harrison Graham (killed 7+ in N. Philadelphia)
44. Cleophus Prince (6 killed in, San Diego
45. Robert Rozier (7 killed in, Miami)
46. Maurice Byrd (killed 20 + in St. Louis)
47. Maury Travis (17 and rising, St. Louis and possibly also Atlanta)
48. Hulon Mitchell, a.k.a. Yahweh Ben Yahweh (killed 20+ in Florida)
49. Lorenzo Fayne (killed 5 children in East St. Louis, IL)
50. Paul Durousseau, (killed 6, two of which were pregnant women, Jacksonville, FL; Georgia.)
51. Eddie Lee Mosley (killed 25 to 30 women, south Florida)
52. Henry Lee Jones (killed 4 in, south Florida; Bartlett, TN)
53. Richard “Babyface” Jameswhite (15 killed in, New York; Georgia.)
54. Donald E. Younge, Jr. (killed 4), East St. Louis, IL; Salt Lake City, UT.
55. Ivan Hill (killed 6 in Los Angeles area).
56. Michael Vernon (Bronx, NY. Killed at least seven people – )
57. Chester Dewayne Turner (12 women killed in, Los Angeles)

 

All serial killers murders combined will not touch other races' murders overall. This is an absurd argument.

 

I'm just taking breaks because arguing with people that are incorrect, ignore facts, and are unwilling to change their minds gets irritating.

 

Why should anyone change their minds because you demand so?

Show us some facts.

 

From what I have read it dipped slightly after the gun buyback but regained it's statistical level shortly after.

 

From the Australian Institute of Criminalogy,, there has been a decrease in gun related crmes since 1978 and then a sharp drop after the buyback scheme. Since 2001 the decrease in gun related crime has been decreasing like it was pre 1997.

So what you read is true.

 

Incorrect. White serial killers who kill random strangers make the news more, and you're just naive enough to believe the news is reality. Roving warlord militias in 3rd world African nations kill thousands of random strangers on a daily basis, but since their black, "over there", and not being covered by Pierce Anthony, you don't think it's actually happening.

 

Although there's a germ of truth in there, it's not that people don't think it's happening, it's that they are considered 'mass murderers' or 'war criminals' rather than 'serial killers'.

 

you really don't want to go there.

Europeans did not dominate the globe for 500 years because they were friendly and nice.

 

No one was "friendly and nice," if you're speaking about war. Europeans battled each other as well. Some Europeans were not white. Rethink your approach, ma'am.

 

Yep. America too often glorifies VIOLENCE... and that is a problem which fuels the gun insanity.

When more and certain people die... political action WILL change this nation. We have a LOT of suffering and sadness to go, before we acquire some real sanity.

 

what do you mean by "white?"

if you look at the deaths "whites" have been responsible for, they are not underrepresented in comparison to everyone else.

 

What Europeans were not white?

Are you referring to Greeks, Italians, Portuguese or Spaniards?

 

Look at what deaths? You're speaking about a huge time frame as if it were one encounter between a few old rivals. Give me a story to work with. What deaths are you referring to?