Why do so many like the Democrats?

The answer, very briefly but honestly is:

1. People have been pathetically dumbed-down by socialist public school systems and teachers' union for the past 35 years. Consequently, people don't know anything and they don't know the difference between truth and facts, and, propaganda and bull****.

2. Over 40% of the entire population is now taking welfare from the government in one form or another, and many of them are now totally dependent on the Socialists for their very existence. They don't pay anything but sales taxes and their hands are always out.

If this continues, and it may if King Hussein is re-elected -- then the United States is going to DIE!

 

Too many grannies taking those welfare checks. Let's cut 'em off and throw them in the streets were they belong.

 

There is no Govt policy that is best for every individual.

Even those might not be best for some individuals.

 

We have arrived at the point, Iriemon, when we must adjust the amount of payouts to individuals for entitlements AND welfare based soley on the amount that that individual has contributed to the various government systems through taxes and FICA.

There are some people who have real disabilities, mental and physical, and please understand that I am NOT talking about cutting anyone off who has a proven disability. There must always be a humane "safety net" for people who cannot support themselves!

And, there are millions of others who have been forced by law to pay into Social Security and Medicare all their working lives. Let me be clear: everyone should be fully empowered to take every cent in EARNED entitlements and EARNED benefits from SS and Medicare that they have coming to them.

But, yes, there is also a sizable part of the population that are just marginal slackers. They sit on their asses, suck on the public "straw", and take advantage of every scam, ruse, and boo-hoo Libocrat fraud to milk the system for all it is worth. I'd put everyone who fits that category on notice that they've got exactly one more year to start supporting themselves and after that, if all they want to do is sit on their dead asses, then to hell with them! We can't afford professional leeches, bums, and parasites anymore, Iriemon -- especially with Madman Bernanke hell-bent on dragging the country further into debt while he buys up worthless debt with invented money.

 

Why MUST we do that?

With tax revenues at 60 year lows and proportionately about $800 billion a year lower than they were just 12 years ago, why can't we raise taxes a bit instead of throwing granny in the street?

Is it so important to you to keeping increasing the wealth of the uber wealth that you'd cut down the SS checks old ladies need to survive?

Aren't they the vast bulk of the 40% who receive "welfare" as you claimed?

Aren't they the vast bulk of the over 40% people receiving "welfare" as you claimed?

What percentage of the over 40% receiving welfare are "slackers" in your view, and what data do you rely upon to support that proposition?

You talked about people who have been "pathetically dumbed-down" who "don't know the difference between truth and facts, and, propaganda and bull****."

I suspect your claim about over 40% receiving "welfare" is just such an example of this, in that that I believe large bulk of the "over 40%" figure includes people receiving SS or medicare or other elderly or disabled folks which you've just affirmed should get their benefits. But I will withhold judgment pending the data you can provide to support you claim and demonstrate this is not a case of not knowing the difference "between truth and facts, and, propaganda and bull****."

 

Give an example.

Do you just reply just for the hell of replying?

 

I don't. Do you?

A criminal person like a mafioso might benefit from not having rule of law. Someone sympathetic to the invaders might be better off.

 

The individual.

 

Yup....that's what trying to cater to wealthy right wingers will do for ya. Bad...bad idea, and a mistake. One I'm sure he's learned from by now.

 

Heres where I disagree with you...

Welfare programs meet needs that markets and charities cannot. Most people no matter what their politics know that people in trouble need help and most people will help if they have the means. The problem is that the scale of deprivation and suffering in highly developed societies is beyond the means of generous individuals, religious, and civic groups. Thats why government welfare is needed. Mind you government can't do it all either so there's still an important role for other efforts but we are better off because government tries to take up the slack. Its also important to remeber that most Americans work and pay taxes even if they get a federal refund but when it comes to taxes supporting welfare all taxpayers who reach old age will benefit from things like social security and medicare so its not like some people always " get what others pay for. " But welfare is not the only reason for liking Democrats.

Freedom and fairness for more people have been important to Democrats since the 1960s onward. Think about how blacks, women, and the disabled would still be blocked from opportunities in employment, housing, and public accomodations if Democrats had not passed reform to knock down discrimination in our country. By making labor unions legal workers got a more fair and decent workplace with better pay that gave them real choices aociated with freedom. Democrats have taken the lead on all these things. But its not only about what Democrats do at home.

Americans trusted Democrats like Roosevelt, Truman, and Kennedy to defend us from enemies abroad while trying to be peaceful and cooperate with our allies. They have renewed that trust because of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama. Americans do not want to be weak abroad or insecure in relation to foreigners but they don't want constant war and confrontation that can't be justified. Democrats since Roosevelt in World War II and with the exception of Lyndon Johnson in Vietnam have gotten this right. The fact is Democrats keep us strong and secure in relation to other countries.

When Americans move beyond rightwing misninformation and wrong headed ideas they can find good reasons to like Democrats.

 

I disagree with almost everything you said, BUT I very much appreciate the civil tone, with the exception of the last sentence. I suppose you just couldn't resist!

If we could all tone it down a few notches, this forum could be very enlightening.

 

Obama and the Democrats stand United with Muslims and strengthen Islamic fundamentalism throughout the country. (Mashallah)

 

Hand outs baby. Hand outs.

Every one gets something for nothing in the Democratic Party plan. Free college, free housing, free day care, free health care, free free free . . .

And since high schools across this country produce idiots. The idiot vote believes anything. The typical vote thinks that they can live in Beverly Hills if the rich pay their fair share.

 

You cannot and do not help the poor by keeping them on the dole for a life time. You help the poor and almost everyone else by creating private sector jobs. The more the demand for labor the higher wages will go.

Anyone tells you anything else is full of crap or wants to run your life for you.

 

You know this...because you're poor, of course. Correct?

 

I believe people like dems for a few reason

1) they seem to be progressing into the new millineum.
2) republicans stick to their roots with little progression. Most are strong catholics, and most modern america are either a diffrent religon or dont care.
3) the right are hardliners, in its their way or no way, and the left is very open to discussion

If you ask me the right has good ideas and policies but are going about it the absolute wrong way.

 

Simple: Millions of Americans are imbeciles thanks to rotten teachers' unions.