British invaded every country in world except 22

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  1. Tyrerik

    Tyrerik New Member

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    Unlike Iran where what is commonly regarded as the first empire started and Egypts empires dating back almost as far, the British Empire came to an end more through ideological change than war. Thanks to these new ideologies emerging from the British empire among others, the people of the world have moved on from colonisation after thousands of years since these ancient origins.

    Germany hadn't done much invading prior to the Nazis and having thoroughly lost WWI wasn't regarded as much of a threat until it was too late. Did you miss that history lesson?
     
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    This is why I used "their lands" and not Australia. Australia didn't technically exist prior to January 1901.

    Some appauling things were done by both the British and Australians to the aborigines, especially the Koorie people. As an Australian, this is something I'm NOT proud of.
     
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    Yes, ideology :)
    In fact we are now living in the most peaceful time the Earth has probably ever known, believe it or not .....it seems to be the truth. because and only because it is no longer acceptable to the educated.
    But we are, it seems too, at a cross road within our own lands as well as our behaviour in the World at Large.
     
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    Sorry, you are right, I meant a Dominion, not Commonwealth, but ruled over by the British is a bit of a stretch. The Union, like Canada, had it's own government, and South Africa had to vote in Parliament whether to join the war or not. The decision to join and to invade German West Africa lead to a rebellion in SA, and almost full on civil war. Only after this rebellion was suppressed, did the Union invade the German territory.

    About Stanley and Congo, Stanly was an American, and he was on a private commission, so how is this Britain invading Congo?

    On the later discussion, well, it is true for more places than just Australia. South Africa, Nigeria, New Zealand, Jamaica, all these places and more did not exsist at the time the Brits showed up.

    AH
     
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    It was and sadly still is called 'progress'. What lies are hidden behind that word, eh :) We all regret much of what our ancesters did and now see the folly of their barbaritys and wonder how it could have been .....but it was what it was and they were as they were, it is how we go into our tomorrows, learning from both them and indiginous peoples of then and now as well as ourselves eh ?
     
  6. Abu Sina

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    So the ONLY country in the world mad enough to EVER use nuclear weapons is the one who gets to choose who else has them?

    That's logical............:confused:

    that same country who is in never ending wars and killing people whose president has a Nobel Peace Prize? yes very logical..............

    the country who lies in the UN about WMD's to attack another country?...................

    the country who created Al Qaeda to use for it's own uses and had no problem at all!!!! with a bunch of jihadists killing on it's behalf, that was until their creation turned on them.........................

    the country whose presidents lie to their dumb people which is very easy to do since most never left their country or even their own state ande know virtually nothing about the rest of the world so are easy to recruit because they have a love of guns and violence and a violent culture?


    yes very logical.................


    America is not the worlds policemen and neither is it a paradise. It's probably one of the most violent places on earth where the ones that are not in the army killing others in other countries are in their own streets killing each other filling it's prisons to overflowing and turning out immoral violent people and exporting a gangster culture to other nations by their music and movies.

    No

    America is not the lecturer in the University of life we should all be attending the classes of.

    Your terror of communism affected the world and dragged us all into it. That's the truth of it.
     
  7. africanhope

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    Well Skeptical, your measurement is not the one used by the USA. They only use one measure - do we like the country. Do you trust Pakistan with a Nuke? Seriously? Cause that one is going to bite you in the arse. And why do you trust India?


    I think the only nation that has any moral authority here is my own, who voluntarily decided on our own to destroy our nuclear weapons and abandon our nuke programme. But the UN should be the decider, not the US. Personally, all nukes should go.
    AH
     
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    Yes, like I said its a bit of a stretch. Basically domions are allowed self rule as long as they keep in line, if they really ruled over themselves then they would be independant nations and not dominions. The union may have had a vote in Parliament whether or not to go to war but it was the British who reserved the right to declare war on its behalf.

    Stanley was born and brought up British but youy are right he was technically an American. However I think I was on the right track with Stanley and Livingstone as there was a miltary expedition made into Congo by Lieutenant Cameron in 1873 to retrieve Livingstone's body.
     
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    South Africa could have refused to enter the war, and almost did.... Just like the Queen can not declare war on behalf of the UK, the King then could not declare war on behalf of SA. Also you re mistaken on Livingstone, he died in Zambia, quite a different country, and his own attendants carried his body to what was then called civilisaiton.

    There was an expedition by Cameron but I understood it to continue Livingstone's work, not to return the body.But under no circumstances did he colonise or attempted to colonise The Congo.Stanley came a year after that, not in service of the UK (that is the point, not where he was born or raised) and did not travel with Cameron.

    AH
     
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    It should also be mentioned that during his African exploids, Stanley served 3 masters, the new York Herald, The Daily Telegraph of the UK, and the only country he ever served in Africa, King Leopold of Belgium in whose name he colonised the Congo. I thus still maintain that Britain never invaded Congo.

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    Iran doesn't have the capabilities to invade other countries, they have been forced to engage in their numerous acts of war against the U.S. and several other nations by-proxy using clandestine groups who they control.
     
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    i wouldnt say NOTHING positive
     
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    Well, unless you count stealing resources and hundreds of thousands murdered, in their own land, I am labouring to see a positive..
     
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    And yet they have nukes or are just mins away....:roll:
     
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    Techincally you are still my prisoner.
     
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    I think the two if you forget that this country was founded with war, the American Revolution, and was almost destroyed with war after the Civil War.
     
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    Yeah, civil war, fighting among yourselves....
     
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    The USA is huge, at that time most people had never seen other parts of the country, so to them they were fighting strangers - they might as well have been outsiders.
     
  20. Jack Napier

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    I know.

    I am just saying, in a short history, you seem to be an exceptionally violent and war like people.

    Do you think it is, at least in part, because you were seeded by those seen as being religous extremists?
     
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    I'm not sure, I can only speak for myself and my close friends and family, none of whom particularly enjoy war, all of whom are willing to do what is necessary though.
     
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    when was the last time america was involved in a necessary war??
     
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    Don't you see that the war was fought, your people and country lost it, and Israel won it?

    It was a war of infiltration and subtefuge.

    They are not your 'strategically important ally'.

    Let this fellow American tell you what they are>>>>[video=youtube;a3E2NcC0x20]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3E2NcC0x20[/video]
     
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    Most of us have a Civil War in our History, America wasn't really even the USA when you had yours. It is not the same as fighting a foreign power.
     
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    There must be other countries, outwith that 22, that we have not invaded.

    When did we invade the C Rep?

    Or Slovenia?

    Or Bulgaria?

    Or Latvia?

    Or Malta?
     

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