Can America continue to bail out farmers in denial of Global Warming?

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  1. LoyalAmerican

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    If the trend continues at the current rate, in under ten and probably closer to five years, these farm bailouts will become bigger than the Banking Crisis of 2008-2009.

    If these farmers cannot adapt by changing crops, Capitalism should go it's natural course.

    We need to set a deadline on when to end these bailouts.

    It is already cheaper to import most of our produce and other staples, and with minor investments, we can obtain our staple grains from other countries cheaper as well.

    Most of these farmers are selfish ingrates anyway, I'm tired of bailing them out.

    The PaulBot and Occupy Anarchists rail on and on about criminal bankers, that's one thing I agree with them on, but the problem is that they essentially got away with it.

    It's time to nip this thing in the bud. Let's see if we can get some proactive support from the PaulBot and Occupy big mouths on what will end up being a bigger crisis. It's better than whining about it later.

    These ingrate farmers don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about us, and that is perfectly evidenced in their politics. Why should we give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about them, when we can get the same product cheaper from other countries that at least keep up with the changes?

    They aren't that bright or that highly educated, we can put them to work in factories for minimum wage to pay off their foreclosure debts. Of course, I agree with the farmers on one topic, we should give them less than 30 hours a week in the factory. We wouldn't want them having the ObamaCare they hate so much.
     
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    Reference for meaningful debate, or just this unqualified soap box.
     
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    Actually, this is intended to be meaningful debate. And I feel no need to be nice to them. I give the respect that I am given. This issue alone could create a Left Wing Tea Party so big that it would blow your mind, given the location and politics of the source of the problem. We plan to just as immovable as the Right Wing Tea Party.

    Let's see if the Right can be conciliatory for once. This is an issue. This is a ticking time bomb. It WILL be bigger than the banking crisis.
     
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    A highly unqualified and uninformed rant.
     
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    When progressive leftists mount their soap boxes, they have difficulty obscuring their exuberance for communism....
     
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    Ayuh,... Agreed,... ignorance at it's finest...
     
  7. LoyalAmerican

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    What have you got to refute it?
     
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    You missed the question. Is there an article that inspired this topic?
     
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    Thats what I am afraid of. But I want to know the article that inspired this topic, without one this thread will likely be closed. And without an article it is not possible to judge the validity of the argument in context of his comments.
     
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    You said so little other than making it clear that you hate farmers so there is nothing to refute.

    Farmers are mostly pretty decent people and city slickers would all starve without them.
     
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    This year is set to break the records!!!!

    Last year was the biggest farm bailout in history!!!!
     
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    No link, no foundation.... just a rant. What does crop selection have to do with global emissions ?
     
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    Can't have a debate without reference and context.

    But it seems to me that you have no knowledge of economics and under appriciate the benefits of subsidies that you call "bailouts", further, you are trying to associate climate change with their farming activities with a specious argument of a temporary drought that is not as bad as what occured in the 1930's. You seem to be spouting typical progressive leftist collectivism, but without a source we will never really know.
     
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    Excuse me? Farmers are NOT indispensable. It is cheaper to buy raw food products from overseas. It makes good capitalist sense to do so. These farmers want my taxes, and they don't want to change their ways, and honestly, they are (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s.

    Now, why should I give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about a farmer who is creating a crisis, when that crisis can simply be averted by obtaining food cheaper elsewhere from farmers who aren't (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s, and who are changing their crops to suit the climate changes?

    I listen to these farmers on talk radio. Do you REALLY think we here in the cities give a damn about those (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s? C'mon!

    Hey, man, at least I'm thinking ahead at solutions. These people are driving themselves out of business. Factories would at least keep them working. I feel that their own social standards should be applied to them, and they are deadbeats, look at the drought map. We are going to have to bail them out AGAIN, and EVEN BIGGER this time....

    Reality sucks, and payback should be a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Nothing. Just stateing the obvious.

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    Is this about the super bowl dodge commercial?
     
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    Why should we give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about poor people who dont want to work and just want to leach of the system ???? You support that as a democrat, but dont like farmers who dont grow the crops you want?? (*)(*)(*)(*)ing mind blowing.
     
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    All we have here is diarreha of the key board, no facts or column to debate outside your simple inconclusive and over simplified solutions.
     
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    They keep choosing crops no longer suited to long term climate in their regions. Thus the bailouts.

    They want to keep snorting the Koch. We have to cut them off.
     
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    LOL .... i thought you wanted a debate? You just are trollin now , go write a blog.

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    Name some crops.
     
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    Go look it up at Thomas. How many States got the bailout last year?

    The only trolls I see here are the ones who don't want to discuss this seriously.

    Maybe the Right doesn't need to be included in the debate? If this is how they will act, I say lock them out of the Committee Room. This debate will happen.

    How are you guys going to respond? With bull(*)(*)(*)(*)? Or with serious suggestions?

    I'm willing to listen. Are you willing to be bipartisain?

    If so, I use the Eric Cantor definition of Bipartisainship.
     
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    Which at the moment seems to be you... Which crops do you think shouldnt be grown anymore ?
     
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    This is your thread, so the onius is on you to provide a link.
     
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    Dude, you guys have had two decades of warning. Everything is right on schedule, actually, the schedule seems to be accelerating.

    Go look it up yourself, if you don't want to be honest about this, I have no need to produce (*)(*)(*)(*) for you, and that includes our taxes.

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    It's not my place to dictate to the farmers what to grow. Let them get creative. I don't care. As long as we don't have to bail their asses out beyond the short term.

    The point is that the bailouts must end. A lot of these farmers will go under, because they keep snorting the Koch.

    Smarter farmers don't need to be bailed out.
     
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    What a fail thread. He wont even address anyones questions, doesnt post any data, and just trolls through answers. Why is this in the current events section ?
     
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    Keynesians on the progressive left cry about agricultural commodity manipulation that's essentially designed to stabilize food availability and costs....while completely ignoring or fully supporting Big Fed and their banking cartel's manipulative monetary policies, and the tens of billions of Bernanke Bucks ObamaCo is effectively shipping off to Wall Street every month.

    An endless study in collectivist, "common good" duplicity, they.
     

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