Fox News poll shows 83% of Americans say we need to cut spending

This is the reason why I don't discuss with a lot of liberals is because they are to narrow minded and are not open to other ideas from people across the political spectrum. You guys don't see Obama as an extremist on any issues at all like taking our guns away or making it impossible to use them. He nearly doubled the national debt and wont admit to it but rather he blames it on the rightist people on the spectrum.

 

Baseless, regurgitated conservative propaganda. The facts prove otherwise:

www.politicalforum.com/political-opinions-beliefs/293674-obama-really-big-spender-facts-say-no.html

 

All one has to do is look at the national debt since his time in office. It's pretty simple when you arent carrying water .

 

Why is that all one has to do? Do you not understand the difference between debt and spending?

 

Kinda like the way I destroyed yer - Obama ISN'T a Big Spender - Thread.

 

Again this is SO manifestly Dopey even a 5th grader can understand.
Bush had a 2007 budget deficit of $ 161 Billion.
Just 2 years later and Obama is maintaining deficits of well
over $ ONE TRILLION.On average around $1.4 Trillion a year.
What percent of 1.4 trillion is 161 Billion.
Even a calculator gets a headache trying to do the math.
161 Billion isn't even 10%.
Obama has managed to outspend Bush by more than 10 times.
At least for fiscal year 2007.
What part of that doesn't logically entail being a Big Spender.
Obama has OUTSPENT ALL Presidents Combined up to Clinton's
2nd term.

 

Spending money you don't have causes debt , do you not understand that ?

 

Without one post of yours in the thread. Amazing.

 

It was the very last post of the night.,Last night.
Why do you persist in Never never Land.
You seldom speak Truth to Power.It's always No that Liberal
never said that or Obama never meant that or Never this or never that.

 

KInda like Michael Moore never owned One share of Oil stock.
This Gaslighting has got to cease & desist.

 

My bad, I missed it.

 

This is so manifestly dopy that only a fifth grader would be impressed.

Well, maybe a fifth grader *could* understand the difference between a deficit and spending.

 

First of all, it's a FAux News poll. You can't be sure it is legit. Then, it might just include Faux News viewers, which would skew it. Try another poll.
Even if every American was in favor of cutting spending, that doesn't mean they want it cut where Republican/conservatives want it cut, on the backs of the poor and middle-class.
Why can't Republicans see that we need to cut out loopholes, tax shelters and tax cuts for the uber wealthy?

Majority of Americans also want "background checks" on all gun purchasers, but the majority of Republican/conservatives are arguing with the minority that supports NRA's ideology, why can't they see that?

 

Maybe on account there is a political reality known each year as
Deficit Spending or Budget Deficit.That spent which exceeds income {incoming revenue}
Or why there is in Reality never Surplus Spending.
It's best to deal in Reality and give up yer Never Never Land approach.

 

Key point missed left out of your prior post.

Just looking at the national debt doesn't tell you anything about spending. When you are talking about deficits and the debt, you also look at how much you have coming in, or in our case, don't have because of tax cuts.

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I can see you've been listening to fifth graders.

 

I've been ranting for years that we need to have a complete overhaul of the U. S. Tax Code to get rid of ALL loopholes, exclusions, shelters, exceptions, etc.! And, (*surprise*) -- I'm an arch-Conservative! Why hasn't President Populist put one-tenth as much effort into getting rid of tax loopholes as he does into gutting the 2nd Amendment to the U. S. Constitution? He's back out there again, today, doing everything he can to undermine our effort to own firearms.

 

iremon

That is where you are completely wrong!! When you look at a SIXTEEN TRILLION DOLLAR debt, only the incredably stupid cant see that we are simply spending too much.

 

Another conservative who doesn't know the difference between spending and debt.

 

How is he gutting the 2nd Amendment. You're just repeating talking points, I bet from Palin, Limbaugh or Faux News. I can't imagine any reasonable person seeing anything wrong with background checks and not allowing the purchase of assault weapons.

 

While I do like Sarah Palin, a LOT, I have a hard time listening to Limbaugh and Hannity a lot of the time. That said, take even a casual look at the Second Amendment, tex, and tell me, what part of "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" do you, Dianne Feinstein, Comrade Obama, and all the rest of hyperliberal self-defense obstructionists not understand...?

I'm sure that doesn't resonate, so I'll give you an example that, as a liberal, you should be able to grasp immediately: You have the Constitutional right to purchase 24 oz. glasses of soda, even in hyperlib pestholes like New York, right? NOT SO, according to Libocrat bureaucrats, who say, "Anything over 16 oz. is just way too much and we will forbid you to buy it!" Now, stay with me. You have the Constitutional right to purchase a Glock 9mm semi-automatic pistol (as long as you pass the background checks, which, of course, are already in effect) -- BUT, accordingly to Libocrat bureaucrats, you shouldn't be able to buy magazine clips for it because (horror!) those hold too many cartridges! Right? Now, the punchline -- as a perfectly legal, law-abiding citizen of the United States, do you think that maybe these Libocrat morons are INFRINGING your right to buy soda? Or your right to buy an empty pistol magazine?

Try... just TRY to understand why we on the Right have come to hate and despise so many of these tyrannical, hyperliberal ********s, and that includes your President Nanny-State -- not because of what he is, but because of what he does....

 

You can put out any numbers you wish. The fact remains that our spending levels are at an all-time high, and our national debt is in orbit now. Obama has increased that by more than any other President in history.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/historic-flood-red-ink_550425.html?nopager=1

This says it all: http://www.usdebtclock.org/

 

iriemon

The fool Obama is spending us in to debt. Do you buy that? Obama is so greedy he is piling debt on our children. We need to massively down size the government, and have massive spending cuts!!!!

 

There is, indeed, a big difference between deficit spending and debt, per se. But, Iriemon, the situation with regard to both is dire. Of all liberal economists, you command respect and standing because you are balanced and fact-based. That said, and sincerely, I do have two nagging questions -- when do we approach a point of mathematical intersection between economic factors that will not even allow us to pay interest on the national debt? Surely we cannot go on like this...?

I concede, very reluctantly, that Fed. Chairman Bernanke's Keynesian policies have produced visible improvements to the economy, at least on a short-term basis. It's hard to choke down, though, when you see that the Fed's entire restoration thesis orbits around the continued creation of money out of thin air, stuffing it into banks, buying our own national debt, continued collaboration with foreign banking cartels, and continuation of the practice of buying tens of billions of dollars in toxic mortgage-backed "securities" every single month to prop the economy up.

My second question: this little "schauspiel" in Cyprus had more to do with a power-play between the ECB and Vladimir Putin than anything else, but was it also a trial-balloon being sent up by the ECB, the IMF, and the Federal Reserve System about how "we" will solve our debt/liquidity problems planetwide? Spain, Italy, and the other socialist quagmires are drowning in ever-deepening debt, and, unfortunately for them, the Euro is not the world's "reserve currency" like the U. S. Dollar is, so Draghi can't get away with the kind of imaginative financial crap that Bernanke does....

 

I guess the big question is why is Obama and todays liberals so damned greedy that they are willing to drop their spending bill on their grandchildren. It borders on child abuse!!!!

 

No, the overriding question is, how did you managed to get the word "damned" to be printed in this forum? It's always been heavily censored for profane language... has that changed? I'll post this and see....