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You see I wouldn't and couldn't accuse you of claiming Christians want a world wide caliphate when such a thing is not possible. It's purely an Islamic principle and concept.
It helps to know what it is one is talking about.

 

By the way...there is no such thing as a Christian terrorist, per se. Not in the sense that we see Islamic jihad being waged, at any rate.

I'm not aware of any Christian group in the world using terrorism as a device to make other religions subservient to Christianity (as jihad defines itself, with regard to Islam, of course).
You may have had a point during the Crusades (only eight-hundred years ago now ), trying in vain for some sort of equivalency between Islam and Christianity, though Christian attempts to stop Islamic expansionism were as much geopolitical as religious, as Islamic incursions into Europe itself
proved.

Although the KKK was a terrorist group, as Southern blacks could attest, they were not terrorists in the sense we would apply to jihadists so bringing them into this argument is intellectually disingenuous and, considering the KKK has been moribund and effectively neutered for decades (as well as the fact that they were never ever a Christian group, though they had some of the trappings of the church) it demonstrates the extent of an impoverished argument that must try and find Christianity as guilty as Islam when it comes to attacking others.
It just doesn't wash.

 

I saw this post and thought of you. It is Hitler explaining why the Germans were justified invading Poland.

http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...cism-reversed-mod-alert-6.html#post1062860318

I wanted to give you the opportunity to jump right in and say how you believe Nazis are the most accurate and truthful source for explaining their motivations.

LOL

 

No such thing as a Christian terrorist? Why would anyone think these fine folk were terrorists?

 

As I said, the Klan was a sort of terrorist group. They certainly can't be compared to Al Qaeda.

 

????? Uh yeah. Did you have alternate motives not stated by the Nazis?

 

Yes, they considered themselves Christians an yes they were terrorist. STILL, nothing in Christian doctrine of the bible that supports their actions against blacks. Whereas Muslims have the text of the koran that supports their fight against the unbelievers. They have the example of Muhammad, whom they strive to emulate, who spent much of t
his adult life fighting against the unbelievers. Kkks terrorism has nothing to do with Christian doctrine and is clearly in direct contradiction of that doctrine. It's the doctrine of that portion of Confederate States of America that couldn't accept their loss in the war. Absurd to even characterize it as "Christian" terroris because it contradicts Christian doctrine. Al Qaeda and the like "fight in the way of Allah" as instructed to do so in the Koran and so is accurately characterized as Islamic terrorism. They fight to bring about the return of the Islamic caliphate as it existed from muhammads death until the 1920s. Islamic government applying Islamic doctrine as law. The Islamic government called for in the doctrine of the Koran. Fight them because they "do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth,...."

 

Sure. Elimination of Poland and acquisition of territory for expansion of the Fatherland.

 

Come down to reality. Morsi was elected on a platform that had nothing to do with conservative Muslim law. When elected, out of the blue, Morsi implemented conservative Muslim law. The Egyptian military was smart enough to remove him from office. Turkey is a similar example. You give Muslims an inch and they will lie, cheat, or steal to push their "so-called" religious agenda. Muslims are trying to pull the same crap in the United States and Europe.

"Prejudices?" Now that is a load of crap too. There are 164 Jihad passages in the Qur'an that encourage Muslims to kill those who disagree with their Islam. http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html Please look at the passages, this is not an exaggeration. In Myanmar, peace-loving Buddhists burned hundreds of Muslims out of their homes. Buddhists have watched Muslims conspire for hundreds of years. America could learn a real life lesson from Myanmar Buddhists on how to handle Muslims.

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OK. Very first one of the 164.

[2.178]...retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain... [2.179] ...there is life for you in (the law of) retaliation, O men of understanding, that you may guard yourselves.

Please explain exactly how that is telling Muslims to kill people that disagree with Islam.

Then we can go on to some others.

 

You know you actually have the link in the post you took from me. If you are not bright enough to figure out what the first of the 164 means, then you fit the stereotype of a third-world educated Muslim.

[2.178]...retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain... [2.179] ...there is life for you in (the law of) retaliation, O men of understanding, that you may guard yourselves.

A third grader could understand that. Hell, a third grader could write it!

Pretty basic propaganda if you actually know how to read. My link provides all 164 passages. I gave the link a glance. All pretty much the same Islam drivel. Now, I understand why Southern preachers wanted to burn the damn Qur'an. There is nothing to discuss here. The Qur'an promotes violence//terrorism/murder/Jihad. It is not religion, it is third world fanatic noise. I am not going to post anything more about this toilet paper. If you wish to, start your own thread. If you vomit Islam scripture into this thread, you will be reported to the Mods for off-topic, distractive posting.

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The passage cited does not mean that you have to take blood revenge.

 

Let's not waste our time debating poorly written Islam fiction.

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Actually, it does!
The law of retaliation is better known as an eye for an eye. http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/Arlandson/retaliation.htm
The weak kneed apologists that try to rationalize calls from the Koran to kill or cause unbelievers to submit to Islam are fighting an uphill battle.

But it is amusing to watch.

 

Well said Yosh. But, watch out, Muslims would love to distract us from the subject of Muslim violence/terrorism/murder to go off-topic and debate their "so-called" scripture. Distraction and name-calling is all the Muslims have to defend their barbarian activities.

Straight from Muslim movie propaganda.​

 

Why is it that the Muslim haters are such fans of censorship?


Meanwhile, saying Islam is not a religion either exposes the posters incredible ignorance, or it is just code for "We can ignore the Constitution and discriminate against Muslims"- which means either way its just stupid.

 

Wow! Way to go, Sherlock Holmes. I doubt anyone picked up on that but you!

But seriously, thanks for helping to make the point, though I'm sure you are unaware you did. Both religions have espoused the principle of retribution but long ago Christianity rejected the more draconian aspects of the Old Testament (maybe you heard of this Jesus fellow) while, on the other hand, Islam still wages war against unbelievers and still preaches the notion of an eye for an eye.

 

Think of it like this. You are sitting in a bar, and a guy comes up to you and says, "I am going to kill you." The next thing everyone knows is you are dead. Now, who do you think the police are going to speak with first when investigating your death?

This is not rocket science.

When it comes to hating Muslims, they brought that on themselves with 9/11, at the Boston Marathon bombings, and trying to build a Mosque at Ground Zero. Surprisingly, the American people do not want to be killed by a bunch of third-world animals! The only censorship here is a "so-called" religion" with 164 passages in their "so-called" holy book that threaten to kill non-Muslims, duh! Muslims have not even begun to feel the wrath of the free world against them.

One well-chosen detonation, and the first world problems are gone!​

 

I'm sorry, I didn't ask for another waft of bigoted drivel. I asked a very simple question about your claim that "There are 164 Jihad passages in the Qur'an that encourage Muslims to kill those who disagree with their Islam" with the link you gave. How does the very first of the supposed 164 verses in the Koran tell "Muslims to kill people that disagree with Islam" as you claimed.

Here it is again:

[2.178]...retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain... [2.179] ...there is life for you in (the law of) retaliation, O men of understanding, that you may guard yourselves.

Do you want to take another shot at it, or just admit the obvious fact that it says nothing about telling "Muslims to to kill people that disagree with Islam", proving your claim and source is complete bull(*)(*)(*)(*)?

 

http://www.al-islam.org/al-mizan/v2/24.htm
I would suggest reading this citation carefully before you go off half cocked again.
"Moreover, Islam does not accord any value, any weight to man, unless he is of the religion of monotheism. One man believing in the one and the only God is equal in the eyes of Islam to the whole human race. Therefore, whoever slays a believer, it is as though he slew all men - because he committed a sacrilege against the dignity of that believer."

Clearly the message is, anyone (any unbeliever) killing a Muslim is fair game for retribution and it is expected that a good Muslim will avenge this death as his religious duty.

retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain.. ...there is life for you in (the law of retaliation)... i.e. you are expected to extract revenge and are rewarded if you do- O men of understanding followers of Islam that you may guard yourselves deal with unbelievers, as the whole Koran is written from the perspective of Islam struggling to conquer and subjugate the native peoples it is surrounded by.

 

I am thinking that would be you.

This is not anything even related to science. Religious bigotry is not a science.

Since when is everyone of any religion, ethnicity or national origin responsible for what anyone of that religion etc does?

Do you still go around beating up Japanese Americans for bombing Pearl Harbor? Beating up German Americans for sinking the Lusitania?

The reality is you hate all Muslims and you want to hate all Muslims. 9/11 is just a rational- just a cover story you tell people to make it sound good.

Oh my- how many died from that? How many laws were broken there?

I am fairly certain the American people don't want to be killed by anyone.

Do not confuse your angry rhetoric with the rational 'free world'.

Just the mindset of the 9/11 bombers and the Boston bombers.

What august company you put yourself in. You want to murder millions of Muslim children. How proud your parents must be.

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Thanks- worth repeating

An eye for an eye?

Where have I heard that before.....

Leviticus 24:19: "If a man injures his neighbor, just as he has done, so it shall be done to him: 20. fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth; just as he has injured a man, so it shall be inflicted on him.

Damn....those Muslims are secret Christians!

 

Then don't respond- seriously- responding to tell me that you won't respond is as stupid as saying that Islam is not a religion.

Not as bizarre as suggesting the murder of millions of women and children just because they happen to be Muslim as you did.

 

Just like you refused to participate in my "dissection posts" after I explicitly provided the sources you asked for. You know what I read that as? "I have no interest in debating". Which would sort of sum up my experience with you.

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Case in point. If I were to completely and utterly demonstrate this to be wrong in various ways beyond a shadow of a doubt, would you care? Or would you just write it off as just more "dissection not worth looking at" and continue to be wrong about everything?

 

Then don't respond- seriously- responding to tell me that you won't respond is as stupid as saying that Islam is not a religion.

Not as bizarre as suggesting the murder of millions of women and children just because they happen to be Muslim as you did.