"Behead Those Who Disrespect Our Prophet P.B.U.H" Facebook page

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  1. supaskip

    supaskip Well-Known Member

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    That's great, but how does that help you define what "violence" is. I know how it is defined, but as mentioned it hasn't been qualified by you and the response you seek. If you don't wish to discuss the topic and need to distract further with the sly digs, then please do, I'm looking forward to your response each day :)

    Please do press the ignore button, that's what it's there for. I'll "profit" as I see fit :roflol: Rather than disseminating my points, your attempt at insulting is rather telling on a debate forum. If you do wish to discuss the points, I am still here! Always happy to debate logically with those who can!

    I think you have problems following threads in a post. If you can't figure out how a reply works with a quote attached, I can't really help you.

    If you do want to get back to the topic at hand, I'll gladly discuss it further.


    You seem to mix your individual feelings with that of an entire region [both West and East].
     
  2. Really People?

    Really People? New Member

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    I don't agree that Muslims, as a whole, believe in killing anyone who doesn't subscribe to their belief system...

    Are there some that do?

    Sure, but they are a minority among the entirety of Muslims...

    I don't believe that American Muslims condone 9/11 or the Boston Marathon bombings...

    Are there some that do?

    I'm sure there are, but the majority of American Muslims do not...

    BTW, the flag in the corner is NC...
     
  3. McCorkindale

    McCorkindale New Member Past Donor

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    What is there to discuss about the definition of "violence." Here is Merriam Webster's definition. I do not plan to continue pulling links to catch you up on the basics. This is your second warning before you go on "ignore." http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/violence

    vi·o·lence
    noun \ˈvī-lən(t)s, ˈvī-ə-\

    Definition of VIOLENCE
    1
    a : exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse (as in warfare effecting illegal entry into a house)
    b : an instance of violent treatment or procedure
    2
    : injury by or as if by distortion, infringement, or profanation : outrage
    3
    a : intense, turbulent, or furious and often destructive action or force <the violence of the storm>
    b : vehement feeling or expression : fervor; also : an instance of such action or feeling
    c : a clashing or jarring quality : discordance
    4
    : undue alteration (as of wording or sense in editing a text)
    See violence defined for English-language learners »
    See violence defined for kids »
    Examples of VIOLENCE

    They need to learn how to settle their arguments without resorting to violence.
    movies filled with sex and violence
    The violence of the storm caused great fear.

    First Known Use of VIOLENCE
    14th century
    Related to VIOLENCE

    Synonyms
    force, foul play

    Antonyms
    nonviolence

    Related Words
    coercion, compulsion, constraint, duress, pressure; barbarity, brutality, savagery; damage, detriment, harm, hurt, impairment, injury; crippling, maiming, mayhem, mutilation; assault, attack, bashing, battering, battery, batting, beating, belting, bludgeoning, buffeting, clubbing, cudgeling (or cudgelling), drubbing, flogging, hammering, lacing, licking, mauling, paddling, pelting, pommeling (or pommelling), pounding, pummeling (also pummelling), smashing, socking, thrashing, thumping, tromping, walloping, whaling, whipping; frenzy, fury, onslaught, outbreak, outrage, paroxysm, rage, rampage, revolt, riot, rupture, shock, storm, terror, threat, tumult, turbulence, upheaval, uproar; browbeating, bulldozing, bullying, hectoring, strong-arming

    Near Antonyms
    pacificism, pacifism

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    Learn More About VIOLENCE
    Thesaurus: All synonyms and antonyms for "violence"
    Spanish-English Dictionary: Translation of "violence"
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    One more ignorant question like the one above on violence and your ignore wish will be granted. [​IMG]

    Based upon the theory of the two step flow of communication, it is the responsibility of the speaker to make his message clear and support it with facts for the listener.

    There is really nothing to discuss until you learn how to listen, comprehend, absorb, and understand.

    By the way, how come when I quote you, your name appears on the quote, but when you quote me it looks like it is from an anonymous source? Have you figured out the software in PF? You have been here long enough to know this.

    It is simple. When you add up all the positive factors, and all the negative factors you make a thoughtful decision as to which side you are on. People who do not, are not relevant to the issue. For example I was raised protestant, and am now an agnostic. After 32 years of thought, I am with Israel, and Islam is the enemy. Amazing what one can accomplish merely by thinking for themselves, rather than relying on some fictional that promotes the murder of those who do not believe as you do. We in America call these people "whack jobs" not a "religion."

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    Been there, done that. Your turn now.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    Been there, done that, still doing it...so..yeah
     
  6. McCorkindale

    McCorkindale New Member Past Donor

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    The real question here boils down to the word "condone." According to articles I have read a very few Muslims have acknowledged that 9/11 and the Boston Marathon bombings were a bad thing. But, there has been no dramatically loud statement by the majority of Muslims about these events. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/condone

    con·done
    transitive verb \k&#601;n-&#712;d&#333;n\

    con·donedcon·don·ing
    Definition of CONDONE
    : to regard or treat (something bad or blameworthy) as acceptable, forgivable, or harmless <a government accused of condoning racism> <condone corruption in politics>
    &#8212; con·don·able adjective
    &#8212; con·don·er noun
    Examples of CONDONE

    a government that has been accused of condoning racism
    <he is too quick to condone his friend's faults>



    Then we are told that the Qur'an endorses killing everyone who will not buy the Islam crap. Then photos like the one below appear in national magazines. What are we average Americans supposed to think?

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    That is easy. Read my signature. In my book when the F. B. I., America's largest law enforcement group, under the Justice Department tells us things like this. Americans believe it. I believe it. I believe all Muslims are enemies unless they place their loyalty to the United States over Islam. Islam and America are not compatible. If America is not a person's priority over Islam, we should deport them. There are many more people who would love to have their place in the United States. People are trying to get into our country, not out. The American people are not about to change our lifestyle for a bunch of third world whack jobs.
     
  7. supaskip

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    Ah, so you ARE versed on the English language, just as I am. We use the same definition. So therefore the base definition of "exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse" relates to US airstrikes or any troop force, AND to extremist beheadings. Violence is violence.

    Yet in a previous post you said "Name a world conflict where Christianity currently does the kind of violence, murder and terrorism that Muslims do." and yet when asked to clarify your definition of violence on that statement, you suggest from your dictionary quote that they are the same. I'm glad you came full circle! Shall we play again?

    Ignore button is right there.... it's glaring at you.. go on, press it.. GO ON! You know you want to!! You were attempting to define "muslim violence" as something different from "christian violence", and get upset when I ask you to clarify the difference between them? You brought it up. I think you need to press ignore. Really.


    :roflol: Point proven from above. You make a statement, I ask for clarification, you go off topic and insulting, eventually come back, and agree with me by quoting the dictionary that violence is violence. I do look forward to these chats, it really does lighten my step for the day.

    You might note that the first quote has your name, the next quotes are from the same thread and I use the BBCode "quote" as needed. Since the quotes are all from you, I guessed you could figure it out... but if you want I can add your name in too. You are familiar with BBCode in the forum I presume.



    You say "Islam" is the enemy, and yet over 99% of muslims do not promote extreme forms of islam... and still you attribute 100% of muslims to the idiots of less than 1% out there. I guess your old age is getting to you... :boxing:

    Did you like that I added your name in the last quote, btw? I like to please.
     
  8. Lien

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    [video=youtube;tvEwHvsFW6I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvEwHvsFW6I[/video]
     
  9. McCorkindale

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    Your wish is granted you are on my ignore list, this is my last contact with you. I will explain why. Those of us who have been around message boards for a while have a term for posters like you. We call you "dancers." Clearly, you have an agenda, but when confronted with facts you can not respond to, you muddy up the water distractions. You probably perceive yourself as some kind of "super poster" when all you are is evasive filler. You nit pick around the details of an issue to keep conversation away from horrendous acts Muslims do. Facts are against you, so do not post fact/links to support any of what you say. You merely generate noise. For example here is your opening statement in this post.

    Ah, so you ARE versed on the English language, just as I am. We use the same definition. So therefore the base definition of "exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse" relates to US airstrikes or any troop force, AND to extremist beheadings. Violence is violence.

    Yet in a previous post you said "Name a world conflict where Christianity currently does the kind of violence, murder and terrorism that Muslims do." and yet when asked to clarify your definition of violence on that statement, you suggest from your dictionary quote that they are the same. I'm glad you came full circle! Shall we play again?


    No, we shall not "play" again. You are cornered to come up with current Christian violence equal to what Muslims are dishing out. You can not make a case. You have no fact/links. So, you dump this garbage filler on viewers. I would guess most readers just skip past you when they see your avatar. And, now I join them by putting you on "ignore." I gave you three chances to clean up your act. You failed to comply. Too bad PF rules do not allow me to insult you!

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    supaskip Well-Known Member

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    Oh that is a shame. No, really. It's a weak way out of a conversation. You could have just "not replied" anymore, but I would have hoped you could comprehend what I was asking rather than pretending I am at fault. Nevermind... I'll reply to your posts, but of course you will not see it.
    Unfortunately, your explanation translates as "I, McCorkindale, couldn't answer the questions posed and so try to blame the other person".
    I have no agenda. You, on the other hand, have done nothing for the last 10 posts but perform sly digs, avoid answering, and post random pictures. Rather than discuss a topic it seems you spend most of your day looking for gifs. Each to their own, but I think you are in the wrong place for that.

    This is the crux of the problem that you are running from. Lets run down what happened (without all the gifs and digs), since I have a few moments and I'm in a good mood. You can see that it didn't need 20 posts, but just 4 lines of conversation.

    YOU: Name some christian violence that is equal muslim violence.

    ME: Violence is violence - someone ends up dead with justification to whichever side. Airstrike = someone dead. Beheading = someone dead. What is your definition of violence for both sides?

    YOU: (Eventually) [Quotes dictionary for violence] : exertion of physical force so as to injure or abuse

    ME: So, violence is defined as the same whether muslim or "christian".

    YOU: I'm blocking you.

    I asked you to what you determine the difference is between "christian violence" and "muslim violence". You basically said violence is defined as [see above]. If you give one definition for both, what EXACTLY would you like me to point out?

    Perhaps you need to speak to your old college tutor to see what insight he may have for people that use insults. The PF rules really haven't stopped you much during this thread. It seemed to me that you are a troll, which is why I've enjoyed this conversation so much... trolls do have a hard time finding a path through me. Oh well, since I'm blocked, someone else will have to have fun with you!

    On the other hand, if you wish to unblock me and say exactly what you want me point out between the differences of Muslim violence and Christian violence, I would be happy to have a proper conversation. For that sake, I'll repeat my first post: "Extreme muslims" may use beheading, where as "Christians" may use airstrikes, that is assuming from the "war on terror" point of view. Both are just as bad because it promotes death, but we can be comfy in our armchairs that we don't see blood or gore, but a satisfying explosion which masks such horrific results (body parts [plural] all over the place is probably worse to view than a single body part [head] but we don't see the end result). If of course we are not talking about "war on terror", but just "western violence", then there have been many instances in our country -gang, mafia, drug- where death occurs with blood and gore.

    Or are you citing "Christian" as actual "christians" doing the work? Perhaps the influences are the important part. Do christians need to perform any violence? Do extreme muslims find a need? There are more questions from your single question to be able to give a straight answer...
     
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    I hope you get treated with more respect than we Viet vets got. Like the Crusaders, we delayed the enemy's march long enough for it to soon lose its momentum. Also, the Russians were forced to get stuck in Afghanistan because the native Communists said, "Look what the Americans did for their side. Why can't you help us just as much?"
     
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    I'd like to see Think For Myself explain this one.

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    McCorkindale New Member Past Donor

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    The OP

     
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    I leave you with the photo above to sum up my views on Muslims in a single picture. A Gay Muslim, (who is violating his own Islamic rules), carries a sign that demands peace while destroying Israel. And, with their third world education, Muslims can not even see the hypocrisy of this photo. My mother told me not to use the word "stupid," but in this case..........The barbarian thinking of brainwashed Muslims is simply poppycock!. Honestly, how much more confused can Muslims be?

    Muslims are not interested in discussion, they want to dominate the world with their "so-called" religion. President Obama has obtained an authorization of more funds to fight domestic terrorism, and Congress is working on Immigration Reform that will also clamp down on Muslim troublemakers. The only thing I am sorry about is that Mexican-Americans have been working very hard in good faith on Immigration Reform. Now it looks like the whole package could go down in flames because the actions of Muslims at the Boston Marathon Bombing. You can not talk about the Boston Marathon Bombings without bringing up 9/11. And here is an additional a list of other Muslim terrorist activities around the planet up until 2010. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism Muslims are the problem here, not foreign immigrants in general. We should keep this in mind.

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    You do realize that picture is photoshopped, right?
     
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    You have to learn to see filled part of the glass . For example today almost every hospital in Usa have at least one muslim doctor .
     
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    Uhm... Te Muslim population comprises 1/6 of the world population, which means, each sixth human is a Muslim. It then stands to reason, each sixth doctor should also be a Muslim... And there are not.
     
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    http://www.debbieschlussel.com/1307/when-your-doctor-is-a-muslim-medical-terrorism-comes-to-america/

    "**** IMPORTANT UPDATE, 07/05/07: Please read my 07/03/07 updated list of terrorist doctors and information on the scary Oath of Muslim Doctors. **** http://www.debbieschlussel.com/1502/update-on-the-medical-doctors-terrorism-our-homegrown-version/

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    Sometimes&#8211;so many times&#8211;diversity is not what it&#8217;s cracked up to be.

    Just ask Joseph Applebaum. Well, you could ask him. But you won&#8217;t get an answer. He&#8217;s dead. And he&#8217;s dead because he was a Jew, and his doctor is a Muslim and grad of &#8220;Ayman Al-Zawahiri&#8221; Medical School. But Applebaum wasn&#8217;t denied treatment for being a Jew in Egypt. Or elsewhere in the Muslim world. It happened right here on U.S. soil. In Chicago.

    As Muslim doctors continue to flood into the country under lax immigration laws, hospitals around the country have acquired their fair share of them. Many hospitals in the Detroit area are now dominated by Muslim doctors and have been for some time."
     
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    can anyone direct me to the equivalent Christian Facebook page.................................
     
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    You know as well as other PF members their is no "equivalent Christian Facebook page," because Christians do not blow up high rise office buildings, or bomb holiday marathons to kill innocent people. That is an exclusive Muslim monopoly. Jesus never heard of a pressure cooker bomb. Mohammad encourages Muslims to build them in the name of Islam.

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    Yeah you usually use war planes , atomic bombs , chemical weapons . I think pressure cooker more and more innocent next to these .
     
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    All of these attacks are suspicious . Boston attack was so aimlessly , highly probably it was designed by your CIA , these guys had connections with intellingence services .
    London machete attack was so aimlessly . This black guy was someone who accepted islam later and he had connection with British intelligence services , they wanted him to work for them .
    Bin Laden also is the same .

    All of these events to provoke us against each other .
     
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