This review is very good! It seems as if Obamacare now has a fatal flaw that will lead to its demise. If the states have their way, many people will not be available for a federal tax credit by which the U.S. taxpayers will subsidize their heath insurance premiums. The Democrats have extended this tax credit to a family of four making as much as $88,000 a year! Are these idiots actually trying to bankrupt our country or what? Well, now in their hasty attempts to pass the legislation, it seems that this skulduggery was all for naught. The Democrats, as usual, were clever and smart by half!
Of course they are, how else can they make us dependent on them....We are the majority, not them. How do you defeat a majority? sabotage that's how. The only way to defeat a current system is to wreck it...you do to it what it wont do to itself.. We wont need a violent revolution should it pass, we just need enough people with the nuts to be civilly disobedient.. Stop paying tax's and watch them fall, it's them that depends on our income,,not us on theirs. There are enough Corporations as well that can join in, just hold up production and whoever is in office will crumble like a Graham cracker...Can you imagine if everybody stopped buying GM? or any other Corp we put on the List? We just need to stay organized, leave the sex and pissing in the streets to the Liberals...LOL
You are correct, flounder. Nancy Pelosi is so dumb she actually thinks the "Occupy Wall Street" crowd actually supports the Democrats. They do not! They know Obama and the Democratic leadership are in collusion with the big banks in America because that is where the money is! "Yeah, let's shut down the big banks and absolve all of these kids camping out on Wall Street of their student loans. That will make our country stronger!”
Are you channeling Ayn Rand? LOL Every producer (regardless of income) just stop paying and buying and go on strike! That certainly would get some attention, indeed! I'm with ya!
You are correct, DonGlock26. Are you aware if the Obama jobs bill as it is presently written were enacted into law, it would destroy more jobs than it creates? This is the reason the Democrats in the Senate will not support it. Here is a good discussion of the major flaws of this poorly-crafted bill, the $447 billion American Jobs Act of 2011. http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...-include-anti-job-measures-his-jobs-bill.html
Granny says when somebody tells ya dey from the gov't. an' dey gonna help ya - don't lissen to `em... Seven million will lose insurance under Obama health law February 5, 2013, President Obama's health care law will push 7 million people out of their job-based insurance coverage nearly twice the previous estimate, according to the latest estimates from the Congressional Budget Office released Tuesday.
Granny says, "Dat's right - mum's the word... Boehner Won't Say if GOP Has Any Plans to Curtail Any Part of Obamacare in Must-Pass Legislation March 7, 2013 House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) would not say on Wednesday whether the Republican House leadership has any plans to curtail or de-fund any aspect of Obamacare in any must-pass legislation in this Congress.
Cruz gonna call Obama's bluff... Cruz: Let's See if Obama's Willing to Shutdown Gov't to Fund Obamacare March 13, 2013 Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas) introduced an amendment on Wednesday that would cut off all funds for Obamacare, a step he said Republicans should support and, if it were to pass in the House as well, could be sent to President Barack Obama to see if hes willing to try to shut the government down over funding of the Affordable Care Act.
Here's *Bush trillions of dollars Iraq War & Great Depressionist* Paul Ryan waving around the same 'ol Path to Prosperity calling for the repeal of Obamacare since 2008-2009 as the only way to save America .... this *new & improved* version is the same 'ol hysterics that if we eliminate social security, medicare and all entiltlments, the budget will be balanced by 2023 ... I imagine this timeline was bumped-up from 2080 now that we have tea party austerity sequestration ...
James - could you or anyone please explain the mechanics of how these "tax credits" and "tax payer subsidies" for those enrolled in a state sponsored exchange were supposed to help cover the costs of Obamacare? I'm confused. These are tax REDUCTIONS (rebates???) for those enrolled in exchages? How does reducing taxes cover increased federal (Obamacare) expenses? Or was this a reduction in STATE taxes that were then to be applied to the Federal costs??? Someone tell me how this is supposed to work. I know I'm being stupid about this. What am I missing? What are "tax payer subsidies" in this context? By the way - is THIS the tax credits they're talking about? ---> See http://www.healthcare.gov/marketplace/costs/tax-credits/index.html If so, I don't see how these can be called "the heart of Obamacare" - or how they contribute somehow toward the cost of Obamacare. Does it make any sense to you?
No, but it was two years old when Waltkey decided to push it. The crackers will believe anything, no matter how ridiculous. But it is a great example of the serial lying that went on all over rigth wing media about health care reform. - - - Updated - - - No, but it was two years old when Waltkey decided to push it. The crackers will believe anything, no matter how ridiculous. But it is a great example of the serial lying that went on all over rigth wing media about health care reform. - - - Updated - - - No, but it was two years old when Waltkey decided to push it. The crackers will believe anything, no matter how ridiculous. But it is a great example of the serial lying that went on all over rigth wing media about health care reform.
Oh - in reference to my questions in the last post - I guess the "tax credits" and "tax subsidies" referred to in the article are the Federal subsidies to the states for helping to fund their mandatory state run exchanges??? And the "heart of Obamacare" is that federal subsidization of state exchanges and the lowering of insurance premium costs due to the enforced competition within the exchanges. Is that the way it works? But the OP cited article talks about tax credits and tax subsidies to the PEOPLE enrolled in the exchanges??? I'm really getting confused. So, if the credits and subsidies are to the states, then people will pay less for insurance premiums due to increased insurance company competition in the state exchanges - but pay more in taxes to cover the federal subsidization of the process and associated overhead. Hmmmm.... Now what am I missing???
Granny says, "Dat's right - take the teeth right outta it... If Defunding Obamacare Isn't Worth Fighting For, 'Nothing Is' August 28, 2013 -- If defunding Obamacare isn't worth fighting for, nothing is, says Jim DeMint, the former U.S. senator from South Carolina who now serves as president of the conservative Heritage Foundation.
The affordable health act name changed to Obama Care which it will now be known as forever thank you to the republicans, will go into effect right on schedule, its the law and is part of Mandatory Spending. The only way to stop it is to shut down the government and even republicans wont do that at least those who know how hard they will be hit in the next election if they do. So we who are from right of center to the far left wish to thank the Republicans for renaming this Act to Obama Care insuring his place in history. Because 10, 20, 30, years from now people are going to love it, is it going to be good right out of the box, hell no, but it will be fixed and adjusted until its a good working system and Obama's name will be on it forever, don't you just love the irony of it all. Laughing at the right wing, Please keep your insults to me to yourself, to do otherwise only shows that you have already lost the argument. River - fiscal conservative, social liberal, this is not a contradiction in terms.
Great bump..... I'm sure we all remember how Obamacare was killed in the Fall of 2011 as Cessna predicted.
Its clearly calculated and as a supporter of the ACA ,although fixes are needed, the more people getting help the more people you take it away from and the very poor might not vote but working people and the Middle Class will. I will there is not serious replacement for the poor by the GOP so why would I vote against my best interest.
"We are the majority, not them. How do you defeat a majority?" Taxcutter says: Don't bet on it, flounder. Maybe one can quibble over Romney's "47%" but the number is close. If we have not yet reached to the point where there are more recipients than contributors, that day is not far off.
occupy wallstreet was a democrat attempt to create a tea party, by using ACORN and other communist organizations. It failed miserably, because communist deviants crapped in the street, abandoned their babies, shot people, and organized terrorist acts, like blowing up bridges, in an attempt to fundamentally transform the United States of America. [video=youtube;aH99q2CRNZg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH99q2CRNZg[/video] [video=youtube;q3Bg_AB2pBg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3Bg_AB2pBg[/video]
Obamacare still leaves masses uninsured... Post-Obamacare: 115,470,000 on Government Health Insurance; 32,968,000 Still Uninsured September 16, 2015 | Despite the onset of the Affordable Care Acts health-insurance mandate, insurance-buying subsidies and expanded Medicaid eligibility, 32,968,000 people in the United States did not have health insurance at any time in 2014, according to data released today by the Census Bureau.
17 Obamacare co-ops have failed... House Bill Protects Members of 17 Failed Obamacare CO-OPs from Uninsured Penalty October 7, 2016 The House of Representatives has passed a bill to protect more than 800,000 former members of 17 failed Obamacare CO-OPs from having to pay a penalty for being uninsured when they file their 2016 tax returns.
Wow! Its so horrible to have to correct an unanticipated issue for people! And never in the history of the 20th and 21st century have any insurance companies, coops, or care providers can out off business or drastically raised the rates before Obamacare! NOT! What BS! For instance, in 2010,: https://www.theguardian.com/comment...s-private-insurance-healthcare-system-failure
