I believe this is a battle Starbucks did not ask for and as a simple matter of self-preservation had to make a stand, albeit it, a non-commitment, on the fence, stand. I am pro-gun, however, Starbucks has every right to make their case. If this offends some gun owners, and they stop patronizing Starbucks, so be it. I can see where the liberal yuppie crowd, that typically supports trendy coffee shops like Starbucks and Panera Bread, etc., might freak out when some man walks in armed to the hilt. But honestly, I don't know too many people that carry that gives two (*)(*)(*)(*)s for yuppie coffee shops. Myself, I would rather buy my coffee from the gas station at 20% of the Starbucks price. I never go to Starbucks anyways. So if Starbucks HAD to take a stand, it makes perfect sense that they would cater to the people that typically support them.
http://news.yahoo.com/newtown-votes-armed-guards-elementary-schools-152326609.html So the town votes for armed guards in the schools but some very vocal people in Newtown like to form little groups and act as if they speak for the town? If the "Newtown Coalition For Corporate Responsibility" was that large of a group and actually represented the views of the town they why did the town vote in armed guards? Any small group can form and name themselves X town and act if they represent the whole town /rolls eyes
I find it funny, when a company who's owner backs liberal positions.... like starbucks, you don't have conservatives attempting a to start a smear campaign on twitter and facebook saying "how dare he donate to groups that don't like the 2nd amendment.... that's violating my rights" and noone is blasting the groups he donates to as "hate groups" because they don't support gun rights but when chic-fil-a supported conservative groups like FCA and DARED to say he beleives marraige is between a man and woman..... "OMFGWTFBBQSAUCE!!!!!1111 HE'S A BIGOT, HE SUPPORTS HATE GROUPS, HOMOPHOBE!!!!!11 ANYONE WHO GOES TO CFA IS ALSO A HOMOPHOBE!!!!11" hypocracy at it's finest. Now, with that said.... for the EXACT SAME REASONS I supported Chic-fil-a's right to donate to whatever group they wanted and their right to support marraige protection.... I support Starbucks. I may not agree with starbucks on the political issue, but he has the right to do it without a bunch of crazies coming out to harrass company employees on camera to put on youtube because they feel they have the higher moral ground and want to look down on someone for doing a job. And as long as the groups Starbucks donates too is not suggesting hate group stuff, I won't label them hate groups simply because we disagree like many on the left did with FCA/FCS.... I have gone to a few starbucks in my time.... I will probably go again if it just happens.... I don't drink coffee in the first place, so my patronage was limited in the first place and will hardly be affected by this statement. I have probably spent less than 50$ there TOTAL.
Doesn't bother me. I don't own a gun anyway, so I don't carry one around with me. But if I did I would simply go to another coffee shop. Their choice.
I appreciate it, like I said, none of what he stated applies to me, so really it doesn't bother me, and I could care less what people think, I tend to find that on message boards like this when someone throws around a sentence like that, they tend to be projecting their own shortcomings. Internet thugs, and keyboard bullies make me laugh.
I don't shop there anyway so I could not give a crap one way or the other. Stupid prices for a cup of frigging coffee
Way to completely NOT read a thread. Right Wingers are laughing at the false bravado of a guy trying to appeal to his liberal clientele. "Uhh...Guns aren't welcome... well you can bring them in, but I want my liberal customers to applaud me for saying they aren't welcome". If there is anyone protective of the private business owner to make his own rules, like this idiot, it's the "Right Wingers". When a bakery says no to a gay couple wanting a wedding cake, I'm sure you say the left wingers need to shut the fudge up, right ? As if. Hypocrisy.... Latin for "liberal".
Good idea, although I get the feeling most coffee shops prefer not to have people walking around with guns on their hips just because they technically can.
I don't like starbucks. I am very pro gun... That notwithstanding... they were being touted as "pro-gun" because they allowed open carry in open carry states. They said they are not pro or anti gun... but in response to being used politically... they REQUESTED that people not open carry in their stores. They did not ban them... nor will their employees be confronting armed people or asking them to leave. I take no issue whatsoever with their stance. I actually applaud them for voicing their position. Presumably this was not aimed at LEO either. This ain't no Dennys sitchmo.
sounds good, but there was a thread about that very topic that libs seemed to think was a civil rights violation. but yet, when a 2nd amendment right is infringed upon by a business..... it's ok. Can't have it both ways.
yes, because most of my fellow liberals are functioning at retard level - as are most on the right. logic demands that both sides are right on some issues and wrong on others. I choose to pick what's right from both.
Techically..... love progressive mindset and language skills. States and our Nation have a Constitution, nothing technical about it. It is a right that Government can not grant or take from.
I love the ignorance of uneducated right wingers. Government can not grant or take eh? Well who GAVE that right in the constitution in the first place? And who can change constitutions through democratic processes.. Government. You contradict yourself one sentence after the other.
Ignorance, huh. 1. I am not a right winger. I vote as a Independent, no party or person has all the right answers so why put yourself into a corner? 2. Inalienable rights: Not subject to sale or transfer; inseparable. That which is inalienable cannot be bought, sold, or transferred from one individual to another. The personal rights to life and liberty guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States are inalienable. Futhermore: inalienable adjective incapable of being conveyed, incapable of being sold, incapable of being transferred, nontransferable, not able to be conveyed, quod abalienari non potest, secured by law, unable to be bought, unable to be disposed of, unforfeitable, untouchable Associated concepts: inalienable lands, inalienable rights You are embarrassing yourself.