Transgendered Teen Wins Homecoming Queen

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  1. Karma Mechanic

    Karma Mechanic Well-Known Member

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    Changing people's posts like the is dishonest.
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's amazing. This would have been completely impossible when I was in HS. I'm glad that things are changing so quickly.

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    No matter how angry you are, you shouldn't change people's posts.
     
  3. Nightmare515

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    ok so not to be vulgar but um...how does this transgender thing work? Do they remove your man parts and build you lady parts down there? Do they work like lady parts? And vice versa....Like when a woman becomes a man do they build man parts and do they work? Do they put nerves in it or something? How does sex work...
     
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    Society is definitely going down the toilet with the liberal progs pulling the handle. But I do feel sympathy for these transgender folks. I am very thankful I don't have to deal with the conflict they deal with. The same for pedophiles. I don't understand how anyone would have an attraction toward children like that.....and I am thankful I don't understand it. I believe non-biased research would be helpful for such people but it seems everyone nowadays has an agenda so honest research is out of the question.
     
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    Actually it is sexual identity if it was sexual orientation it would not be a issue to as many people. I got to admit I have some issues with this if I understand correctly. The individual in question is 16 and had "her" penis cut off? What is the age of consent in California?

    I am a social libertarian so fairly open-minded yet have a issue with a child taking hormones and removing their penis. I want to be able to support everyones right to live as they choose. They can not give her ovaries, I do not think they can give her a clitoris. So she is making the choice at a young age to never have the option of passing on her genes or having a orgasm. That seems like a much bigger decision than someone who can not consent to sex should be able to make.

    If it makes them happy and she never regrets the decision no harm done I suppose. I would think it would be wise to wait till after the age of consent before doing it in my opinion.
     
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    He made the decision to be a queen after puberty, so biologically it was proper and progressive.
     
  7. Texsdrifter

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    I usually am a goggle freak and dig constantly for info. Your on your own on this one bro. I got the willies from the cutting off of the willy.
     
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    The one thing I will agree with is that maybe you should be 18 to actually get the chop chop. But I dont REALLY have a problem either way, but I can understand some peoples argument.
     
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    That is the only thing that really bothers me. The hormones I assume could be reversed still a big decision to make for a person that can not consent to sex.
    As long as it is not me or my child, no skin off my back or anywhere else. I do see a hypocrisy with the age of consent law other than that no issue.
     
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    What does that have anything to do with the topic of this thread?
     
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    The part of the brain that controls sexuality and gender is measurably different in the folks who truly do feel they have gender issues. Although science is still just now scratching the surface in neuroscience, there is a something going on there that lends credibility that there really is something going on physically there. Sexuality is not as cut and try as you would think, it is still poorly understood. That being said, no way in hell should a teeneager be allowed to have gender surgeries and hormone treatments. To each their own when they are adults, but don't make society pay for it and don't shove down our throats.
     
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    New neural connections are being made all the time and I think it is possible for a person to develop all kinds of esoteric sexual proclivities especially during pre to post puberty when hormones are most influential.
     
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    Hormonal therapy needs to be administered when in puberty for best effect. But it is to some degree reversible and not inherently damaging. So I think pubescent children who have been properly diagnosed with transgenderism should be able to take it. However sex change operations should be allowed only for adults, IMHO.
     
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    If it is 'fixable' with hormone therapy then shouldn't we be researching correcting the problem by finding a genetic cure? Gene Therapy could be promising or maybe genetic screening available for folks who have homosexuals in their families.
     
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    Male-to-female transsexuals have been found to have longer repeat lengths on the AR gene (which plays a role in the development of male sex characteristics), thus having a negative impact on its effectiveness in binding with testosterone.

    http://www.biologicalpsychiatryjournal.com/article/S0006-3223(08)01087-1/abstract

    There's also evidence that brain anatomy plays a role in our sexual identity, as male-to-female transsexuals tend to have more grey matter in certain parts of their brain than other men.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2754583/

    Lastly, the digit ratio in male-to-female transsexuals more closely resembles females than it does other males, suggesting a decreased prenatal androgen exposure.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306453005001770

    I didn't find much about female-to-male transsexuals, and I'm not sure what causes anorexia (are you really suggesting anorexia isn't a real condition?), or what would cause a black man to want to be white (id assume that has less of a basis in biology than the other two), but it seems that male-to-female transsexualism has a very real basis in biology.

    So... Biology has spoken... I guess.
     
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    "Her" hands are big, manly hands. They can grow boobs and all that, but they can never change their masculine structure. That town is a town of gays. Standard in California. And they are the ones who rule America now, soon the entire world. We are doomed and our death will be slow and painful.
     
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    Im not going to argue over this, cutting off your penis significantly reduces your job opportunities. period.

    And im not being hatefull. Im being far more loving than these liberal wierdos who think that mutilating insane people is somehow the compassionate thing to do. These people deserve the same love and care that we give to everyother mentally ill person.
     
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    Congratulations - you just compared the LGBT's demand to be treated equally with other Americans to those who rape children!
     
  19. daddyofall

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    What the hell? She's hardly a 5.
     
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    good for him

    I hope his parents are proud
     
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    A boy pervert is elected queen. Who fricking cares. Homosexuality is boring.
     
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    Whats wrong with that? Since that is also the population from whom pedophiles are primarily sourced.
     
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    ROFLMAO
     
  24. Wally

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    This is all very well and good and makes for very interesting reading. However, the person referenced in the news story above is still male.

    I have no issue with the idea that some people are genetically or biologically predisposed to gender confusion. I have no problem with the idea that actual physical or chemical conditions in the brain can cause a person to identify more as the opposite gender. However, unless you're going to redefine "maleness" to include the amount of grey matter in the brain or repeat lengths in the AR gene, then the person referenced in the above story is, and always will be, male.

    Sexuality is not cut and dried. Gender is. Biology has, for the last time, spoken.

    There are four lights.

    Wally
     
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    So how exactly do you get from there to the conclusion that the cause is genetic?

    And what exactly do you mean by "the very beginning"? Were they being effeminate at 2 months old?
     

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