Ben Carson: Obamacare Worst Thing Since Slavery

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  1. Pregnar Kraps

    Pregnar Kraps New Member Past Donor

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    http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/b...medium=nmwidget&utm_campaign=widgetphase1

    I think Dr. Carson MUST be a lurker here at PF.

    I see a couple of references that remind me of statements I've seen here.

    But when your heart is in the right place you'll find a real meeting of minds among Americans who love this country and want what's best for it.

    Dr. Carson is one of US.
     
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    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, it looks like the right-wingers have found their next great white hope.
    We expect to see him at the top of your ticket in 2016 and have the full throated support of all you splendid patriots on the extreme right.
     
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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    We do like Dr. Ben. Hope he does run. He may not be a community agitator like Obama with a track record of Chicago, but maybe a doctor knows something about healthcare.
     
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    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But wait I thought we were all racists? As usual, it turns out you lefties are the first one to race bait.
     
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    Dr. Carson will get an another audit for saying this.
     
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    Dr. Carson is the most brilliant ,well spoken and well mannered man I have come across in a long time. It would serve us well to listen to his words, carefully, and reflect upon what he is telling us.
     
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    Watching the libs go after Dr. Carson will be very entertaining. They'll use personal attacks. They'll call him everything but a black man. Just wait for it. Most of it will stem from his religion, because liberals generally hate God.
     
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    Yes, it is true -- liberals hate God, the baby Jesus in the manger, and Christmas. No wonder they're such unhappy people.
     
  9. Johnny-C

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    Too often, the GOP has put up their 'custom', 'tokenized' BLACK candidate. (I'm sick of their racist sh__.)

    Amen and LOL!! :)
     
  10. Johnny-C

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    LOL!! Your commentary rings in the following fashion:

    "Hey!! I have a 'Black' friend; I'm NOT racist!!"

    And the GOP is notorious for communicating that kind of thing. It's rather humorous, really. :)
     
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    I admire Dr. Carson for his individual accomplishments; but if his political aspirations are attached to the Right-wing agenda, then I will treat him as an opponent.
     
  12. Think for myself

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    I think Carson may be a brilliant surgeon, but I think he is a talking head that spews rhetoric.

    To link the ACA to controlling the masses and quoting Lenin that socialized medicine (a term that can mean whatever folks want it to mean) seems rather silly. Carson also seems straggly silent over the years to such things as Medicare.

    I think his rhetoric is simply the opposite of what he thinks the president will say, and he preys upon the weak minded that are awed at him being a surgeon.
     
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    No it doesn't. No part of anything I said rings of that. I love the smell of desperation on liberals. Race card means you hit the bottom of the deck and had to play it. Please make up more words I didn't say so we prove beyond any shadow of a doubt how liberals have to make things up in order to make their points seem real. Remember when you libs paid people to attend tea party rallies with white power tshirts and Nazi symbols to make us look like racists and they were immediately thrown out. Desperate, sad and silly little brains have to make things up in order to prove your point. Don't you ever ask yourself why you need to make things up to get people to agree with you? Do your arguments not stand on their own?
     
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    "Weak minded" What about the new obamacare tax hike on young families do you like? Medicare is the most expensive insurance you can buy. It also has poor coverage. Dr Carson's works on kids mostly. He probably doesn't bump into it much.nationalization of such an important industry is a big step towards socialism. Just look at the people here on PF who get excited about it. They are all socialists that want people to pay their bill for them.
     
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    I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never a single time lauded, extolled, praised, endorsed, or given a mild thumbs up to the ACA.

    Being agaisnt Carson's stupid rhetoric does not mean I am for the ACA. It means that I don't blindly take the word of some guy as gospel simply because he has an MD or an R after his name.
     
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    Not as 'I' perceive it. Sorry.

    And how do you know there is desperation? Right now, the last two Presidential elections and the results of recent polls tell me that the Republican Party (most of the Right) is truly desperate.

    There is no race card here. But there is the SAME OLD FOOLISHNESS where some BLACK guy says something that far-right Conservatives LIKE... and then he's some damned amazing hero in their eyes.

    Honestly, I'm sick and tired of the way Republicans have used 'select' African Americans in that manner. Yeah, it's far more profound than any mere race-card.

    Here is what 'I' am saying. White Republicans, need to stop trying to boost-up one and then the next select "Black" guy to parrot their agenda. It's so obvious what they are doing and as insulting to Americans as the first time they ever tried it. Once Carson fails to be 'useful' to their agenda, he'll be set-aside or discarded in just the same way that other Blacks have been.

    I know there are Black Conservatives who are good and honorable people; but I'm sick of the way Republicans have too often USED them.
     
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    Perhaps we shouldn't take his word as gospel, but we mustn't dismiss what he is saying without giving it some though. I wouldn't call his words stupic rhetoric. If anyone knows a thing or two about ACA, its someone who works in the field vs those who grandstand for partisan's sake, iow, our elected officials who are as much in it for the reelection as they are to boost their own egoes.
     
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    Ummm.... it is insane idiocy!! My girlfriend is in her second year of medical school. She knows absolutely nothing about politics, and neither do most of the friends of hers I talked to. Just another example of that. I hate Obamacare, and I think it is awful. However, since slavery there was post-slavery racism. Women had no rights for another 60 years. There was everything that happened in and around WWII. There was the Tuskegee syphilis experiment. The Iraq War. The coup in Iran.

    Last of all, this notion that our healthcare is now controlled by government, as opposed to how it was before, when we controlled our own healthcare decisions, is an outright lie. I agree people should control their healthcare decisions, but they didn't do so prior to Obamacare. Insurance companies controlled our health care decisions. I see absolutely no difference between government and insurance companies making a decision for me. If anything the government is better (I strongly dislike government by the way), because neither cares about any person they are dealing with, but at least government isn't trying to make a profit.
     
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    Dr. Carson has his view.

    Dr. ****rt has another view.
     
  20. Think for myself

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    I am not aware of Carson having any more knowledge of the affordable care act than anyone else, and I think his stupid rhetoric is nothing more than posturing for his political aspirations.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/328047-ben-carson-obamacare-slavery-both-evil

    I also think he is something of a pig when it comes to his views on many things.

    “What we need to do is re-educate the women to understand that they are the defenders of these babies.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/10/...-because-they-get-all-riled-up-over-abortion/
     
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    Do you want socialized medicine? A single payer system? Universal health care?
     
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    Meaningless.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Our medical system should become as socialized as possible.
     
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    I don't know what any of that means. The definitions of those things are so broad that they can be interpreted multiple ways.

    I think the ACA is an overly complex piece of legislation that will end in disaster. I also think that in a developed nation such as the US there should be a basic level of health care that is affordable to all.
     
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    Hold on now. You said Dr. Carson's quoting of Lenin was silly. Universal health care is absolutely a Marxist objective. Is it not? And isn't the objective of most progressives to have universal health care? Don't run from this truth. Embrace it if you think it's so wonderful.

    A universal health care system may not "control the masses" but doesn't it control the most important part of your life - your health? Isn't that alone enough to oppose it? Is Dr. Carson saying the ACA is going to allow government to take away your Bibles and force homosexuality upon your children? No, he's not exaggerating, so why are you?
     
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    Is it? I would think that folks having health care is is more along the lines of decency, not necessarily tied to some political ideology.
     

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