Leftist mantra: What's in it for me?

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“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
– Winston Churchill​

I have often wondered at the rift between the left and the right. The division is not just in politics, though that’s wide enough. There are also differences in matters of morality, work ethic and self-control. Frankly, I don’t ever see that gap closing.

What this comes down to is that I simply do not understand the logic of the progressive mind. And I say this as a former progressive – I was a good little liberal when I was in college, but maturity and adult understanding has eradicated all liberalism from my bloodstream to the point where I view my younger self with pity.

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Surely, the repercussions and responses by the Progressive Socialist Left will be hateful and remind us of their disdain for the truth.

 

Socialism means looking after one another and helping every person reach his/her fullest potential. Capitalism means exploiting and killing everyone but yourself, as we all know.

 

Yep. Left to its own devices, that is exactly how capitalism turns out! (Human nature gets the best of it; so real/effective checks and balances are required. Many today, resist the same.)

 

Can we take as examples the USSR or the PRC as a comparison to America before Obama?

 

Any society that allows human nature to run roughshod over itself, will suffer.

Capitalism can be and has been as much of a curse as most other systems. The list of offenses is long enough.

 

One always has to choose the lesser of evils. If you feel that the USSR and PRC are the lesser of evils, then by all means go there. Totalitarianism has been the bane of civilization, freedom and Liberty. America's form of government has been coveted by many nations however it's hard to achieve. That's why most people want to come to America to live. Then there's those here who say it's bad because they can't get enough freebees. Go to the PRC and see what's free.

 

Its always amusing to see how out of touch with reality conservatives are. Meanwhile, back in the real world...

 

There is NO evidence for socialism.. Don't you think its time to can the hyperbolic rhetoric?

 

The main problem with socialism is that it has to be imposed with the gun. The fruit of my labor is taken away by someone with a gun, and given to someone who didn't earn it. This is a system that punishes hard work and success, and rewards laziness and failure.

 

Not necessarily. Many people seem to think that socialism only takes the USSR and PRC route to hell, but what Sweden and scandinavia, as well as the rest of western europe to a lesser extent, has is also socialism. Or rather, a mix between socialism and capitalism. It's my view that this mixed approach is the best way to go, just look at how successful Sweden has been in this post-war era. The key is to find the best balance. To summarise it, it's about giving people a good incentive to work hard, about letting our economy grow, but to also help those who fall behind or cannot take care of themselves. Of course, some will differ over what amoun of state intervention there should be, and I just happen to think that more privatisations are a good thing.

 

No, not 'always'. And with some care... we CAN set things up so that there are MORE of the better choices to select from. No need to constantly back ourselves into corners.

 

Socialism is where you pretend to work and government pretends to pay you. The difference between that and capitalism is that everyone is poor but the state. Most of the troubles we face today was because of the actions of the state.

 

As IF hyper-Conservative extremists would NOT train their weapons upon ANY that would challenge their fascistic-society... if they were but allowed to turn this nation into the same.

Please, we're better off which the diversity of thought we have... rather than turning toward some monolithic mindset as many on the Right would have us adopt.

 

Oh yes, Sweden is a poverty ridden hellhole, stay away from any degree of socialism!

No really, socialism is the collective management of the economy. It doesn't have to be full blown soviet style communism, but it can just be a mixed corporatist economy like ours, which evidently has worked very well.

 

That's obvious. Folks of either ideological bent frequently form a cartoon distortion of the other that makes it easier to dismiss. Liberal democracy is not socialism, any more that conservatism is fascism. Holding up fun house mirrors to reality eschews clarity. It is not by accident that the most successful extant societies are a balanced fusion of the two. Thus, Social Security and Medicare have become popular social achievements whilst the free market has simultaneously flourished in America.

Pragmatism always wins out over any dogmatic creed.

 

Attacking the successful Scandinavian nations - or all first world nations - such as Israel with its single-payer, universal health care featured in its comprehensive social agenda - is rightist boilerplate. Can the folks who denigrate such societies offer any superior paradigm? (Real ones. Ayn Rand fantasy lands don't count!)

 

Failure of Socialism in Eastern Europe ​

www.lotsofessays.com/viewpaper/1681295.html

An essay or paper on Failure of Socialism in Eastern Europe. The failure of socialism in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union has been apparent in the last three years ...

 

Proof yet again that conservatives don't know the difference between socialism and communism. In fact they think that ANY regulations or effort made to benefit the common man is socialism.

Conservatism Strategy #1: Hire the most incompetent right wing morons you can find to fill important gov't positions. When they fail say, "See? I told you gov't doesn't work!"

 

This is from World Nut Daily.

One would have to believe that conservatives and republicans want NOTHING.

 

Socialism is the lowest form or stepping stone to total Communism. Your statement is total Bull Crap.

 

Has anyone read Ayn Rand since HS? LOLOL

 

Of course you can. Just as Obama inflicted pain on bereaved families of the fallen soldiers, closed public parks and memorials and stopped payment to disabled veterans. He reasoning is that the GOP wouldn't give him want he wants, therefore inflicting pain on the American PEOPLE is fair game and he can blame the GOP and T-Party. Brilliant move except for the fact that knowledgeable Americans know that it is Obama not the GOP or the T-Party that is the cause.

 

WND....the conservative's Bible.....lol....


WND sometimes tells the truth- but I think its only by accident.

 

Exactly!! That canned view of things Conservatives so often sport... is just plain tiring sometimes.

 

Time to talk about REAL solutions to America's POLITICAL problems in general; stop trying to blame one single President for problems that are actually 'generational' in this society.

Personally, I say that if you aren't actively seeking to bolster the MIDDLE CLASS, then you aren't doing a damned thing that's worthwhile.

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I'd say Wikipedia is a far better starting-point to get to the truth, than WND will EVER be.