Republican Fallout Overhyped?

I agree with Mr. Silver's prediction for one reason... Republicans are finally standing up for what their voters want. Common sense tells us their actions will lead to those same voters coming back to the Republican party in 2014 elections. Next Nov is a long time off... no way is the shutdown going to hurt Republicans at the polls next year. In fact, by the time people start paying their monthly Obamacare premiums and chipping away at their $5000 deductibles, the Dems will be lucky not to see another 2010 shellacking from the GOP.

Time will tell, eh?

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Obamacare is going to cause a major seachange of power from one party to another, like the Civil War shifted power to the Republicans, and the Depression shifted power to the Democrats. All Republicans have to do is nothing and let the voters come to them.

 

Just like they did in 2012 lol

 

Obama cheated. He knocked out the tea party with IRS harassment. So they couldn't organize against him. It was not a fair election, and everyone knows it.

 

Well the Republican party must be badly disorganised if their only source of income was a Tea party social

But lets look at the numbers - Oh golly gosh darn them broke Republicans spent more than the Democrats

http://elections.nytimes.com/2012/campaign-finance

 

Yeah, because we were being forced to pay Obamacare premiums in 2012.

Oh wait, no we weren't.

Of course, there are two sides to every coin. Even though Republicans will likely be in NO danger of losing seats to Obamacare Democrats, there's a very good chance many of the 'establishment' GOPers will be replaced by fresh young Republican faces in congress. Long time coming, but it's finally time for some of those good ole boys to hang up their saddles and head for the ranch.

 

Both parties are turd sandwiches. The fact that people defend them at a moments notice, despite the fact that they are both in place to rob Americans blind of their rights under the law, should tell you where this country is headed.

 

Hope springs eternal in the Winger Breast.

 

As long as that new blood learns from the mistakes of the last lot of new blood

 

As is usually the case the left wing nut jobs have weighed in without even reading what this guy is saying..

He nailed the last two elections within three points on one and two on the other...that tells me he knows what he's doing.

And my years as a journalist confirms his very hypothesis that every issue is fleeting...what made George Bush a hero after 911 eleven killed him in the end...

And so it is here and that is precisely why I have been saying the Republicans don't have to win this manufactured crisis where no one suffers, it's Obama's to lose...

In 2014 the great unwashed will NOT likely be basing their voting decision on a funding crisis that wasn't a crisis and one where people got paid for NOT working...

Further, it is mid term, a time when many Americans feel free to experiment with their vote....

And, what no one is looking at, who's up for re-election where..

We have one third of the Senate up for grabs and a big chunk of the house, Republicans and Democrats, mostly old guard...who seem to be getting the (*)(*)(*)(*) kicked out of them lately....

All Republicans have to do is get one more member in the Senate than the Democrats and Obama is lame duck for two years...

And with his pride and ego, his sociopathic tendencies and unwillingness to even grant audience to his "enemies" he would be chicken fodder for the Republicans...

and that's a very ugly death.....

It is the strategy I would use.......

 

Yes and No. Since Obama, politicians have to promise something grandiose, make it a quick and dirty signature achievement, and generate a storm of accusatory Twitter things to spread the blame around when it doesn't work. I wonder how many times America will do that before they learn.

 

Great plan! I'm all for it!
(because the opposite of what you're predicting will happen!)

How many people today would vote to repeal Social security or medicare?....

In fact, how may people will vote for the party who plans to make major changes that will LIMIT social security or medicare?

You don't learn quickly, do you?

 

Then pick one and work to make it better. You might think 3rd party is an option but all it would do is draw votes from whichever party it is more like. It seems obvious to me that the GOP is BEYOND redemption. But you do what you want.

 

You mean the fact that he ignored more than 50 warnings and let 9/11 happen while the GOP was trying to figure out how to refight the cold war?

I think what you mean is that YOU aren't suffering and you don't care about the mothers and children that have lost their WIC benefits or anyone else who is being hurt. Isn't that what you're REALLY saying?

The GOP has come back from screwing themselves (and there rest of the country) before. Anybody want to guess how that other election would turn out if we could do it over again today? Remember how conservatives laughed when Al Gore wanted to put the Social Security money in a "locked box" and pointed out that he had handled the administrative side for the gov't when it came to developing the "internets".

[video=youtube;R8XSo0etBC4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8XSo0etBC4[/video]

 

Lol... the only problem with that is that every time a Republican opens his or her mouth, they lose a demographic.

But yeah, lets see how it goes. I've honestly never seen the left so fired up for a non-Presidential election.

 

>>MOD EDIT: INSULT<<< Unfortunately for them, they have to do better than 27% to win elections. And gerrymanders only take you so far. If the electorate shifts enough, all the gerrymanders can collapse catastrophically.

 

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I don't think "catastrophically" is the word you were looking for. But this does explain why conservatives are trying to undermine the voting process. They don't really believe in democracy anyway. Much like their idea of being patriotic Americans is to arm themselves against the troops they claim to love and disband the federal gov't.

 

You're right, I do not give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about anyone "suffering" in Obama's manufactured crisis.

In case you haven't noticed, I am Canadian, I live in Canada, I pay taxes in Canada and am proud to be a beneficiary of the socialist programs in this country, especially N O FEE UNIVERSAL MEDICAL.

If you had bothered to make two clicks of a mouse, instead of an over-the-top, guilt trip, knee jerk response, you would also see that I have RENOUNCED my American citizenship - a kind of international (*)(*)(*)(*) you - because I am ashamed to be associated with Obama and his continued Bush warmonger policies. And I am ashamed of the childish, race based, politics now being practiced while the unaffected slobs play temporary roulette with Americans lives.

All the "sufferers" will ALL eventually be paid for DOING NOTHING....even the bureaucrats..

I didn't vote for any of those (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s so, its your problem...

So no...you're absolutely right about that and I am absolutely proud of that, to be a citizen of a country that wouldn't think to be as childish as the president and members of congress are being.

But let me straighten you out on something...I wasn't and never have defended George Bush and your reply completely missed the intent just as much as your "accusation" that I don't care ...

I don't....

have a nice day


Yawn...another IGNORE for an Obama lemming who cannot grasp that a liberal could ever dis Idiot Obama...

 

The democratic party treats their own conservatives as infidels as does the GOP its centrists. The budget shutdown is little more than a political set up on both sides to identify the low hanging fruit that can be picked off by the other side. It is why the GOP won't allow a straight up and down vote on a CR without concessions--they do not want any of their seats to be lost. It is about political cover. Likewise, the WH line about "We don't do reckless things with the economy" totally ignores the reality that is exactly what they did with sequestration. The GOP blinked before and now the DNC has no idea how to function now that the GOP didn't blink first this time.

 

Lets make this real. If the GOP picks up Senate control then you can say they actually won something with shutting down the government. If they gain or keep the same number of House seats it is a draw as long as the Dems hold the Senate. Everything else is just puffing to show their side is winning.

Then this rolls into 2016.

 

Republicans are perfectly aligned with the average person, so, I'm sure they'll fare very well.

 

There is no 2010 type shellacking coming for the Dems... but the Dems will have a hard time gaining majority in the house thanks to gerrymandering. Dems will still get the majority of the vote because majority of people do not want what the clown Republicans are offering.

 

Lol...Methinks the boy doth protest too much.

I had a friend in college who, like you, cut and ran from his birth country over a transient political situation.
He had no faith in his country or his countrymen, but he was young and his grasp of history and life in general was deficient.
He was also quite self-centered and tended to think with his glands rather than his head.
After spending 10 years in Canada, he returned to the US and found the political situation that had caused him to flee was completely changed.
He settled in Colorado and became involved with local politics and finally found a role in life that suited his personality.
For the past 30 years, he has been making a positive difference to his community, but he had to grow up and learn some serious lessons before finding his purpose in life.

I have been living in the UK and the US for the past 20 years, and I have dual citizenship, but I would never consider renouncing my US citizenship, and I still believe in and care passionately about my home country. Every decent country has its ups and downs and its good and bad sides, and it takes work and commitment to deal with life's challenges.
I guess that some Americans just don't have what it takes to meet the challenges, so they flee from their marriages or their country or from life in general.

 

It matters little that some ilk of hyper-partisans delude themselves with a recurrence of Romney Landslide Fever.

In their failed tantrum against the 2010 Affordable Care Act in which they shut down public services in 2013, the TP berserkers clearly befouled the GOP, but the havoc they are wreaking is not just upon the Party; it is upon the nation.

Yes, they have now abandoned their jihad against the law of the land, passed by both Houses of Congress, signed by the President, and affirmed as constitutional by the Supreme Court. Its funding and implementation is imperious to their closing Yellowstone National Park. The public that supports continued funding of the ACA will have the opportunity to actually see whether the reforms work as well as the plan's Massachusetts model, rather than merely be subjected to strident Chicken Little auguries vs buoyant Orphan Annie forecasts. Whether the sun comes out tomorrow or the sky falls will no longer be a matter for conjecture. Whether one embraces the truth or fears it, its on its way.

Meanwhile, no American should take pleasure in seeing the GOP consigned to the deep. It is shacked to the Democratic Party, and the chain is only so long. When it has played out and there is a desperate clinging to the mast, the ship of state shall founder.

 

Ahem,


As usual, you make an assumption in the first line that is wrong.

The United States was not my "birth country"....

And if you think the decision to cut yourself off from family and life long friends is "cut and run" I have no more time for you..

Wrong again Joe!