Gee maybe things are not going that good

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  1. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Liberals have been putting up a great front. On this forum you would think that the T-party and republicans are done for. But just on the noon news there is a report of Diane Finstein and a half dozen other democrats meeting with Obama about what obamacare will do to the 2014 elections. Since people are having their insurance dropped, and new policies costing anywhere frome 50 to 100 percent more, they are not mad at republicans, they are mad at Obama and the democrats. Hit people in the pocket book and they will remember when they vote.

    IMO opinion if everything is going so well in liberal la-al land, why the worry and why the meeting?
    In a lot of mid term elections, candidates have run from the president of their party. IMO most democrats when ask about Obama will say "Obama who"? Aint it great, already democrats are laying awake at nite wondering how they can distance themselves from Obama!!!!!
     
  2. logical1

    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Didnt think about this did you libs. You were so happy giving republicans hell about the quasi gov shutdown, which has already been forgotten. Face it obamacare is the democrat Waterloo. Brace yourselves.
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is estimated that 93 million people will be screwed out the the health ins they now have. These people vote!!

    Democrats should be afraid, very afraid.
     
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    I know, I made this same argument about football. The offensive team was up by 14, it was the 4th quarter with .45 seconds to go in the game...............and they still had a meeting(huddle) before each play. Things were going great for them and a meeting doesn't signify anything other than that.

    Discussing the next strategic play doesn't mean that you are worrying. Or is Tom Brady "worrying" each time he huddles with his teammates?
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    We can really crush the Democrats and their Rino allies next fall.

    If we don't we only have ourselves to blame as we follow Europe down the socialism rat hole.
     
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    Tom did not screw with a few million peoples wallets. This election cycle will be interesting.

     
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    Yep he's not worrying! Imagine that!
     
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    The Democrats forced a system that 60% of Americans refuted in 2009(the number's barely dropped since) and you believe they're winning? They're only winning on the account of political naivety in this country. There's only so long a lack of leadership in America can be tolerated.
     
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    If huddling or having a meeting means that you are worried..............then please prove it does. I will wait to see if you can or not!
     
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    Why did The Blamer decide that health care should be a law? So people would sign up for it? To gain more control over a desperate, naïve populace? Because the republicans are/were too weak to stop it? Because The Blamer enjoys seeing our country sliding into a cesspool of third world sewage? All of the above?

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    The illegal immigrant vote will nix some of it...
     
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    Toefoot Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Rex, each election cycle is interesting, both parties worry.....power is at stake.

     
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    I don't mind voting along party lines, for the party that is fiscally responsible enough to end our exorbitantly expensive, War on Drugs.
     
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    Since the population of the US is approx. 314 million people, the other 221 million will be happy with their health insurance and thus the democrats don't have that much to worry about.
     
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    I don't think people would have minded so much about exchanging their insurance policy if they had been given the facts. It is the lying that upsets people. How can we make good decisions for our families if we are provided with untruths? Boehner read the bill back in 2010 and tried to warn Americans. Obama, meanwhile, was stilling telling everyone no one who liked their plan or doctor would lose it. PERIOD! No amount of dancing by him or the democrats will change what is now on record.
     
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    If Obamacare turns out to be the total train wreck that Republicans are hoping it will be, then the voters will have a Hobsen's choice in the next election: Vote for the party that shut down the government, or the one that made our health care system even worse than it was before.

    Of course, neither party is interested in actually improving anything, but only in making the other party look as bad as possible.

    But, there are enough voters who wouldn't cross party lines if their party were running Mephistopheles, so the two party system is safe for now.
     
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    I didn't think you could, but needed to at least give you a fair chance.
     
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    Exactly what I'm thinking. We are beyond the edge of no return. There is no expectation of accountability in voting, thus, actual citizens no longer hold the power in the country. Free handouts prevail and despite what you read from actual citizens, democrat voter fraud and democrat purchases of votes using our money is here to stay. No matter what you read, the democrats have it locked from here on out. Anybody think that the penalties from Obamacare were just coincidentally scheduled to occur after the last presidential election? Now Obama has no need of reelection, so he planned for this to happen right now so democrats could do damage control and the media will rewrite history just before the next election to ensure the democrats stay in power.
     
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    These innocent people being harmed by 0bamaCare will remember that the only ones who were trying to stop this insane ACA were the conservative Tea party folks in the Republican Party. Every democrat voted as one voice against trying to stop 0bamaCare, the dems own it all, and not one democrat was on the side of the people.
     
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    Oh they got together to talk about how bad T-hatters and conservatives in general are doing in the polls where they are seen as so low they are sniffing flea eggs. I wouldn't read to much into it, people having their rates raised is an insurance company decision, not a ACA one, but it is the reason why ACA came about. Only low information voters would blame ACA, LMAO!! And I don't see in the news where they are mad at Obama or Democrats, but you enjoy your little dream.

    Everything was going so well in the last election Rove made a spectacle of himself on Fox News. LMAO!! You have to understand the world is really bigger than ACA when it comes to voting. Like cutting America's poor food stamps the other day, just made a million more voters for Democrats. And you have already distanced yourself from women, workers, small business, disabled, veterans, seniors, firemen, nurses, police, ......... I think the Crotch Bros. are still leaning your way.
     
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    Let me see the logic in this, those innocent people seeing harm had minimal coverage below the nation's standard from corrupt insurance company's willing to take this money. Those harmed people were irresponsible, under insured, and wanting YOU to be taxed to pay their way. Those harmed people couldn't get better coverage because corrupt insurance company's could refuse them as Americans because of pre-existing conditions, so when that harmed person lost his job and health care, he couldn't get it at his next job. And those harmed people had insurance rates increasing annually that forcing them out of the market due to affordability.

    I really feel sorry for these ignorant harmed people, they won't be a burden to taxpayers, and won't have to file bankruptcy and lose everything they own, like their house, cars, etc. because they are seriously ill or injured.
     
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    I've said before it's too bad the employers mandate was delayed, just wait until those policies start getting cancelled.
     
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    Yes, but remember the individual mandate is signing people up who will get it for free such as medicaid or a big whopping subsidy. They'll vote democrat. So although many will still be mad, not half as mad as they'll be when the employer mandate kicks in and those policies start getting cancelled because they don't comply in some way.
     
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    Would solving simple poverty be worse, if it can engender a moral of, it is your fault if don't provide health care for yourself if you cannot claim to be in (official) poverty.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    The reality of govt over reach hasnt even sunk in yet. I've read accounts of people who go thru the sign in, find out how much its gonna cost... and leave without signing up... only to get a warning email a few hrs later advising the penalty theyll face for failure to comply.

    I just can't see Americans accepting such tyranny without putting up a fight.
     
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    Less than 5% of people with current insurance are having there insurance dropped. In any new program since when is being 95% correct bad!!!!!!
     

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