Are you joking? The Marsh Arabs moved into Southern Iraq about 6,000 years ago. The Hebrews were never slaves in Egypt and they didn't build the pyramids..
Genetic Evidence File:Arabian peninsula definition.PNG THE LAND OF ISRAEL IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ARABIAN REGION !!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Arabian_peninsula_definition.PNG A 2011 Study showed that Marsh Arabs have a high concentration of Haplogroup J1 for males and Haplogroup J having the highest concentration in females with Haplogroup H, Haplogroup U and Haplogroup T having the highest concentrations.[16] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marsh_Arabs#Religion The region Arabia is a ancient Peninsula there is not connection to the Muslim people living in that ancient peninsula today The Hebrews were never slaves in Egypt and they didn't build the pyramids.. OUR BIBLE SAYS DIFFERENT AND ITS THE ONLY TRUTH THATS IT !!! i don't care what other gods say or who ever prayers to sticks and stones!!!
Do you know who Wilfred Thesinger is?? He lived with and studied the Marsh Arabs for 20 years.. and He used to come to Arabia to lecture. .. Very cool guy. The Marsh Arabs migrated from Bahrain and Al Hasa 6,000 years ago and speak the Gulf dialect. The pyramids were built a thousand years before the Apiru showed up.
YOUR BIBLE SAYS a lot of things but no mention of Genetic evidence - and Haplogroups - you had to find that in Wiki LOL Your god so loved the world that he drowned every S O B who would'nt listen to him,- including those who've never heard of him. AND HE hated the world so much that he sent his only son so that whoever does not believe in him will perish and be denied eternal life.-- (-, and broke his ex-wife's heart ) .... Play it again Sam. ...
Sir Wilfred Thesiger Ok remarkable man So what is he saying ? " Marsh Arabs migrated from Bahrain and Al Hasa 6,000 years ago " so ??? Where r they now ? can they come forward and make their claim , and as who /what nation . ? muslim arabs ? nah
Yep thats him ! Sorry we cant do much about that ! When God took us out of Egypt , did a lot of miracles and Moses gave us the " TORAH " We were asked if we want it and we accepted it without reading first whats in there !!!
Jews/Hebrews /Yids (Yiddish speakers ( wotever ) couldn't build their first temple , never mind Pyramid . IT NEVER HAPPENED . Here's a question for you: what do actor Charlton Heston, DreamWorks animation studios and Former Prime Minister Menachem Begin all have in common? Well, they've all, at one time or another, perpetuated the myth that the Jews built the pyramids. And it is a myth, make no mistake. Even if we take the earliest possible date for Jewish slavery that the Bible suggests, the Jews were enslaved in Egypt a good three hundred years after the 1750 B.C. completion date of the pyramids. That is, of course, if they were ever slaves in Egypt at all. We are so quick to point out the obvious lies about Jews and Israel that come out in Egypt the Sinai Governors claims that the Mossad released a shark into the Red Sea to kill Egyptians, or, as I once read in a newspaper whilst on holiday in Cairo, the tale of the magnetic belt buckles that Jews were selling cheap in Egypt that would sterilize men on contact yet we so rarely examine our own misconceptions about the nature of our history with the Egyptian nation. We tend, in the midst of our disdain for Egyptian, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, to overlook the fact that one of the biggest events of the Jewish calendar is predicated upon reminding the next generation every year of how the Egyptians were our cruel slave-masters, in a bondage that likely never happened. Is this really so different from Jaws the Mossad agent? The reality is that there is no evidence whatsoever that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt. Yes, there's the story contained within the bible itself, but that's not a remotely historically admissible source. I'm talking about real proof; archeological evidence, state records and primary sources. Of these, nothing exists. It is hard to believe that 600,000 families (which would mean about two million people) crossed the entire Sinai without leaving one shard of pottery (the archeologist's best friend) with Hebrew writing on it. It is remarkable that Egyptian records make no mention of the sudden migration of what would have been nearly a quarter of their population, nor has any evidence been found for any of the expected effects of such an exodus; such as economic downturn or labor shortages. Furthermore, there is no evidence in Israel that shows a sudden influx of people from another culture at that time. No rapid departure from traditional pottery has been seen, no record or story of a surge in population. In fact, there's absolutely no more evidence to suggest that the story is true than there is in support of any of the Arab world's conspiracy theories and tall tales about Jews. http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/...-myth-1.420844 Think about it . ....
simsim50, et al, What does it really matter? (COMMENT) We are dealing with the here and now. It really doesn't matter what happened 6,000 years ago; or, --- even a 1,000 years ago. It is really questionable if the thoughts and intents of a century ago are all that important. What is important is either ---> bring together - or - permanently separate the two belligerents [(Jihadist and Fedayeen of the Arab Palestinian) +/- (Expansionist and Militarist of the Jewish State)] and establish some sort of regional peace and stability without the unintended consequence of releasing unemployed Islamist, Jihadist and Fedayeen to roam the region and creating havoc in regimes that are trying to maintain what margin of peace and stability they have. Most Respectfully, R
The Pyramids were built as national project by Egyptians.. They worked on it between the twice yearly flooding of the Nile and after they planted. Archeologist have excavated the camps and living quarters of these Egyptians who evidently ate well and had medical care. The Pyramids were built thousands of years before Islam and long before Judaism.. I thought you would have known that much.
Is that so ? in which case what abt Yawey's promised land , or those who today call themselves JEWS claiming rights to land ownership in Palestine ? and those who get so steamed up when details abt the holocaust story is questioned ? Have a word with Drew- MGB -Bendor - Face Y - Gilos and others in the Zionist camp. tata..... ....
It could be - no matter how much evidence is presented to you , it wont make a scrap of difference to a securely closed mind, nevertheless , here some which I suspect will fall on the blind with deaf hears . ========= extract :In Cradle of Civilization, Shrinking Rivers Endanger Unique Marsh Arab Culture "At their height, these wetlands sustained up to half a million people: Marsh Arabs who relied on buffalo breeding, fishing, hunting, and a few crops. Their lifestyle resembled that of the Sumerians who first settled the marshes 6,000 years ago" Read and learn : http://newswatch.nationalgeographic...ng-rivers-endanger-unique-marsh-arab-culture/ also : ..... http://www.amarfoundation.org/heritage/chapters/202.php .....
Marlowe, et al, In the mysticism of the belief in the supernatural, there are many (Jews, Christians, and Islamics) convinced that there must be a relationship between the believer and the Supreme Being. (OBSERVATION) The promise of Supreme Being (Yahweh) is based on the supernatural belief that: If the existence of the Supreme Being is denied, then the existence of nonbeliever is meaningless. If the Supreme Being exists, and Believer has no relationship (FAITH) with the Supreme Being, then the life of the Believer is meaningless. At the most basic and fundamental level, the reality underlying all existence is dependent on a faith in the word and power of the Supreme Being (Yahweh); it is a limited aperture on reality for the Believer. Any promise made by the Supreme Being (Yahweh) must be by definition --- in accordance with the Supreme Being's Plan. And in this, the question beyond the faith of the Believer is whether the events of the promise are meaningful simply because it is Yahweh's Plan? Or, does Yahweh Plan it because the outcome is meaningful in itself. (COMMENT) Such a believe is a trap in the sense that, if the promise never comes to fruition, then the existence of the Supreme Being is denied, and the existence of nonbeliever is meaningless. That would imply that the establishment of a Jewish State and Jewish National Home becomes irrelevant. THUS, there are significant consequences to the fundamentalist Jewish following that puts a blind faith and trust in the ancient and legendary promise. Theoretically, it could actually be the catalyst in further advancing the decline and collapse of the faith in the word of the Supreme Being and the Jewish interpretation. (COMMENT) The "holocaust" (wholesale or mass destruction, especially of human life, genocide) is a factual and historic event; complete with eye-witness testimony, confessions, and other tangible evidentiary proof; enormous in volume and magnitude. There will always be those that are in denial for one reason or the other, though a small number they may be. It changes nothing; the timeline of the events and or the reality and historical accuracy. BUT, as you say, there is no reason to become overwrought at the face of those that deny the events in evidence. Through their denial, the merely contribute to their trust, confidence and reliability as a permanent feature of their honesty, objectivity and character. Most Respectfully, R
P Another definition is : Burnt offering - "A sacrificial offering that is consumed entirely by flames."Word History: Totality of destruction has been central to the meaning of holocaust since it first appeared in Middle English in the 14th century, used in reference to the biblical sacrifice in which a male animal was wholly burnt on the altar in worship of God. Holocaust comes from Greek holokauston ("that which is completely burnt"), which was a translation of Hebrew 'lâ (literally "that which goes up," that is, in smoke). In this sense of "burnt sacrifice," holocaust is still used in some versions of the Bible. In the 17th century the meaning of holocaust broadened to "something totally consumed by fire," and the word eventually was applied to fires of extreme destructiveness. In the 20th century holocaust has taken on a variety of figurative meanings, summarizing the effects of war, rioting, storms, epidemic diseases, and even economic failures. This application of the word occurred as early as 1942, but the phrase the Holocaust did not become established until the late 1950s. Here it parallels and may have been influenced by another Hebrew word, ô'â ("catastrophe," in English, Shoah). In the Bible ô'â has a range of meanings including "personal ruin or devastation" and "a wasteland or desert." ---- What I find sickening is the manner in which Zionist exploit / cash in , on the dead ( i.e. read Finklestein's " The Holocaust Industry" - and also the way pro-Zionists use the dead to score cheap points in forum discussions. THere'r also professional survivors in America + elsewhere who created endless museums and education programs . They’ve also created a whole host of advocacy organizations whose income / fundraising depends on keeping the memory of the Holocaust alive. It has indeed become an industry — as former Israeli foreign secretary Abba Eban said "There’s no business like ‘Shoah’ business.” Is that not sick ? ....
Marlowe, et al, I'm not sure I totally disagree --- but, then! Is it really all that unusual? (OBSERVATION) Some sources suggest that through the year 2012, the Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) spent upwards of $78 Million of Annual Budget on Families of Suicide Bombers Protesters calling for the release of a Palestinian prisoners and nearly $132 million annually. Additionally some $54 million was allocated to HoAP inmates in Israeli prisons, with another $78 million going to families of suicide bombers over the last decade. Death is an industry. Suicide and martyr medal are for sale. In the Middle East, who is to say what is "sick." Most Respectfully, R
Human Characteristics of the Marshes The People of the Marshes Many studies22 show that the inhabitants of the marshes have origins dating back to 5000 BC and that these marshes were the ‘cradle’ of ancient human civilizations. Henry Field states that the marsh inhabitants are directly descended from the Sumerians who lived in Iraq for some 5,000 years and Henri Frankfort suggests that the marshes have been inhabited since the 4th and 5th millennium BC. Most historians agree that people settled in the Tigris-Euphrates Delta thousands of years ago and began to build their homes from reeds and rushes Ok interesting i read it ... now what ? Come to the point u want to say those people were in the land of israel before god gave that land to sons of Abraham.. and prove it !!!
Some of the Marsh Arabs were from Sumer... the majority were from Eastern Saudi Arabia and Bahrain.. Wilfred Thesiger is the authority. The connection is VERY old.. There are lots and lots of cuneiform tablets in Bahrain that cover everything from shared mythology to commercial transactions.
" regional peace and stability without the unintended consequence of releasing unemployed Islamist, Jihadist and Fedayeen to roam the region and creating havoc in regimes that are trying to maintain what margin of peace and stability they have. " Right allllllgoood ! Now how will we separate the Islamist terrorist and the Palestinian terrorists and the hisballah terrorists and the hundreds of mostly Arabic terrorist group from the rest ??? WE left Gaza and the Hamas terrorist murdered the Fatah terrorists and now gaza is a terrorist region ! The shah of Iran did not get help from America so the ayatollah humeni took over Iran and now we have a terrorists atom bomb on the way ! We left Lebanon and now we have hisballah /iran terrorist in Lebanon.. and soon El-quida will rule all Syria ! The Americans wanted Egypt to be democratic and immediately the Muslim BROTHERS terrorists with MorsI rises up ! so0 MAYBE THE ARAB NATIONS CANT FIT THAT KING OF IDEA..( LIKE DEMOCRACY) THEY KNOW ONLY FORCE AND TERROR ( JUST LIKE GOD SAID 5000 YEARS AGO !!!
If this subject interests you........... History Begins at Sumer: Thirty-Nine Firsts in Recorded History by Samuel Noah Kramer (Apr 1, 198 Kramer spent his whole life translating from the cuneiform in Sumer. As for Bahrain (Dilmun) it was the connector for commerce between Babylon and the Indus Valley trade.
