Why girls can't marry at 15?

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  1. FixingLosers

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    Why American people should let the federal/state government — usually run by a group of ultra-control-freaks tell them what to eat, where to smoke, when to find what hearts want?

    If it is for the "protection" of the girls — get this: the girls' parents don't protect or care them, somehow, in a public agency, some agents that got the government job for the sole purpose of security and doing as little as possible care? Irony, anyone?

    So why don't we all be honest to ourselves, and realize the age of marriage thing is forged by some social engineers, eggheads that love to pull things out of nowhere?

    And it is a known fact that the development of a body varies greatly on individual level, for example, can you tell the age of this young actress?

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    johnmayo New Member Past Donor

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    Have you met any 15 year old girls? I remember high school. Many were "in love" after a week and out of live the next week. The guys at that age aren't much better. Go have a spiritual marriage if you want, but the government doesn't need to be licensing, certifying or subsiding it. All these people who need government to acknowledge a bond that they made to another person is ridiculous. Government doesn't decide anything except the divorce rules in marriage.
     
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    Bacuase they can't get a license or go to the liquor store for supplies.
     
  4. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    Gays want rights to marry. So why not young? I see no difference then. Dogs should be allowed to get married to? but how old does the dog have to be?
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Apples and oranges. Minors don't have the same rights and privileges as adults, and they never will. Also, sex with an under-age person is rape -- whether it's consensual or not.

    It may have been beneficial for children to get married in societies where the average lifespan was 30-something. Now, society is very different and so are our roles. Many people don't leave home until they're well into their 20s. I don't think that somebody who isn't old enough to drive should be a parent.
     
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    First, the picture missing from the OP.

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    Hard to be sure of her age.

    As for the age of consent, it's a construct determined by social values of the place, time and social restrictions.
    In my opinion, it is not perverted to have a sexual relationship with any girl, post puberty but I don't believe it's a good idea for them to engage in sex at an early age.
    Sex is something that requires wisdom as well as genitals and most girls of that age don't possess enough.
    However, there are exceptions.
    I attended the marriage of a 22 year old guy and a 15 year old girl. It was a marriage of love, they're still married after 6 years and there is no sign of problems.
    Many other girls are forced to marry because of poverty, less than ideal.
    Apart from marriage, we have to consider the age of consent and any protection this affords the girl.
    If there was no age of consent, a far older man could use his skills to get 13 year old girls pregnant; hardly a reasonable state of affairs.
    Such an age of consent has to be backed up by society. It's bugger all use trying to discourage young sex but having tits on page three of a national newspaper and sex all over the TV.
    Morality, for this is what we're really talking about, varies from society to society but has to be even within a specific group if you want it to work.
    This is why I support an age of consent of 16 or 18, but equally support removing porn from any publication easily accessed by children.
    I, when I was 12, had a paper round; seeing tits all over page three of that toilet roll of a newspaper, The Sun, is hardly in line with promoting abstention from early sex.
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Because marriage is a contract and we don't let minors enter into contracts in this country ... But anyways can't you marry at 16 if you really want to with parent consent ?
     
  8. jedimiller

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    minors also self do themselves and no one is letting them do it. there is no contract for playing with yourself and many young kids do it. I had my first experience at 11.
     
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    What does masterbation have to do with marriage ???? What the hell did I just read lol ....
     
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    Pfft! The whole silly, idiotic, lame, ignorant and totally outdated marriage thing should be done away with in it's entirety. The only reason one has to have a marriage license with it's silly restrictions is to generate more revenue for state coffers.

    Let everyone just live with whomever they want without the burden of legal marriage and the stupid, meaningful divorces that are required to legally end a "marriage." Pfft!

    Have a happier new year.

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    So in other words you have no real idea why the law exists, where it came from, or who supported it. But you are willing to sledge people all the same...............great job
     
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    Sixteen year olds are not children.

    Not physiologically.
    If not mentally, that is an indictment of our educational system.
    Historically, fifteen and sixteen year olds have been carrying the ball for humanity since antiquity.
    Now there is a threshold for leadership at eighteen and that has been arrived at through long experience.

    Our official extended "childhood" laws were cooked up by unions to stifle competition.

    If kids are not getting out of the house til their mid-to-late twenties, that is a function of an economy constipated by regulations, not a shortcoming of young people.
     
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    15 year old's brains are still developing to a point to be able to make rational decisions.
     
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    I believe they can marry in my state with parental consent and possibly without it if they are preggers and are marrying the baby daddy.
     
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    Some states do allow it with parent consent, but it varies from state to state. When I was still in Colorado, a girl under 18 could not get married at all, but our niegbor was a young guy who married a 16yo in Texas when he was 17, but when he moved to Colorado and had a domestic dispute, he turned 18 and they charged him with sagatory rape.

    It's a very edgy topic because a lot of mid-Westerners have no problem with getting married at a young age, but the laws are an effort to establish some kind of control to prevent endless pedofilia from becoming the norm. There's not really much difference between Southern Christians, Momons, and Arab Muslims when it comes to viewing girls as human beings. They don't. They see girls as sex pets and household slaves. If the age of concent were made lower, they would just argue it should be even lower still, so eventually they could marry 8yo children and do whatever they want to women, like they do in Saudi Arabia or Yamen.

    [video=youtube_share;fzAPJqPtmVY]http://youtu.be/fzAPJqPtmVY[/video]

    I believe the 18yo limit is a good starting point, because by that time the grl is a concenting adult allowed to drive, vote, and work without restriction for them selves. That is adulthood, and regardless of mental or phyisical development, that is the legal age we as a society give women their rights to be free adults. Men who seek to marry girls younger than that are just sexual perverts seeking to secure their authoritive status by locking on to someone too young to form her own opinion or object. The parents of such girls who willingly agree to such unions are the ones who should truely be ashamed of their low value for their own childs worth. Those kind of parents lower the bar on all human life.

    I know what sparked this topic and how it got started, but it's still wrong.

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    That... may not be the case.

    Google Jaylen Bledsoe, a 15 year old African-Brazilian (May be inaccurate) American that is now running a $ 3.5M worth IT firm.
     
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    Yea a person that I know well started working for bell as an operator at 16, earned partially her tuition for college, graduated 24?25? or so and landed a job in Grumman.

    Kids can be fantastic machinists, clerks and programmers, if not, some kids are more talented than adults could ever be.
     
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    Do you know the same set of information regarding marijuana laws?
     
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    No, but I have never commented on the marijuana laws either, so guess that still leaves you batting at zero
     
  20. FixingLosers

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    The Chris Hanson pic is funny. LOL.

    Why 18? Is there a genetic switch of some sort that got turned on right after a person's 18th birthday?

    I swear to god I've seen tons of 50+ liberals who haven't got 0.01% of clue about the world that a teenager has.

    When Bill Gates knew computers are gonna be the next big thing, he was 15 or 16 in a private highschool. A lot hippies were still whining about Richard Nixon back then and couldn't move on. Just like tons of libs still couldn't get over Bush (I'm gonna leave you guessing Jr. or Sr.)
     
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    You had the nerve to make that comment and then go on to call others bigots? That's rich...
     
  22. FixingLosers

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    Then I assume you know the same set of information regarding US marriage laws, enough to consider my argument (or as you put it, comment) invalid?

    Never try to argue against a person from a more powerful, more advanced, superior nation, aussie. Unless you can't find humiliation or shame in your dictionary.
     
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    Yes play the man not the ball - The cowards defense
     
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    For susceptibility of being brainwashed, I'd suggest you take a look at the demography of Obama voters, as certain speech pattern in your post reminds me.
     
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    I'm not sure what I'm facing is a man. Since I see no ball to play with. *Chuckle*


    Edit: Nah that's childish and offensive. I have no desire to offend you Aussies, you guys are alright, albeit you people can be quite jealous that we do not at all appear to be as enlightened as you guys but we are still number f-ing one. You know, we yanks and dixies are just good at it, we couldn't help it, LOL.

    Besides, who's gonna save your butts from the next Japanese/Chinese invasion to show who's the macho man of the planet? ;)

    Happy new year to you.
     

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