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  1. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    We're not talking about 10,000 years ago. We're talking about now. No one is denying that it happened in the past. Why is it happening now? If you're just going to sit there and throw pot shots at global warming why not do something productive and give an alternative theory. Clearly you have none. Because you have no scientific credibility. There hasn't been an alternative theory in the scientific community that has held any ground. All the evidence points to this climate change event being caused by a rise in CO2. And all the evidence says that the only reason CO2 could be rising at the levels it is is because of Man.

    There is literally no other credible theory. And that's why you've failed to give a specific reason outside of man.
     
  2. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sure, nice graphs.

    Unfortunately for you, all the graphs in the world wont change the fact that the IPCC would never have admitted there had been no warming if they could have possibly avoided it.
    They had to...because it's simply not there. Admitting a lack of warming was the LAST thing they wanted to do.

    They had no choice. Anyone not swept up with the agenda can see that plainly Tao.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    But, of course, we should never examine any EVIDENCE that DISPUTES your NONSENSE, right?

    Please explain how FAR GREATER "climate change" (aka: WARMING), took place 10,000-15,000 years ago, if humans are The Great Catalyst of Climate Change?

    See how you have to IGNORE the "Inconvenient Truth" of the matter?

    The same WALL of LOGIC that always defeats the Warmists illogical attempts to "explain" what they cannot even begin to understand.
     
  4. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    According to the IPCC.......it isnt.
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    So you think global warming is because the sun is angry? And this winter was cold because the sun is in a good mood? lol what?
     
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    Whatever caused it then is causing it now. Pretty simple.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now you're using that "logic" thingy; cut that out!!
     
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    Ding! ding!, we have a winner! We need more control over energy production and consumption.
     
  9. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    No. It's not that simple. Weather and climate changes for a TON of different complicated reasons. There are many many many variables to consider and they don't just repeat themselves. It's far from that simple. Yesterday's ice age could and definitely is happening for a completely different reason.
     
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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Except for of course the IPCC...17 years of the higest CO2 on record....and no warming.
    But hey, dont let that get in your way. I think the Patriots will go 19-0 as well.....oh wait, that was seasons ago...
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    And what data shows that this is happening for the same reason it happened before? Care to show me the experiment that led to that conclusion?
     
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    SourD New Member Past Donor

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    How in the world do YOU know it is happening for a different reason when NOBODY actually knows 100% what is actually going on? What a laugh.

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    Where are your experiments showing that is from a different reason? Don't even bring out the biased computer model BS. Those have been PROVEN false already.
     
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    You are not responding the question of Grokmaster.

    In order to validate your theory, you must explain what caused the melting of the ice some thousands years ago. It was an increase of CO2 as well?

    Your theory cannot be proved right because there is not a precedent that shows that decreasing CO2 levels has caused in the past a change of climate.

    And about scientists, lol... lots of them are just a bunch of clowns... some say that time dilates and time doesn't exist at all. however people believe that stupidity about dilating time... the same as well, scientists claim than man can change the climate on earth, but the earth itself without man's actions can change the earth's temperature in a week... like the Philippines volcano eruption which sent ashes right over the Equator zone in the 90's and the earth's temperature dropped 1 grade... some detectors even called for more than that...

    And this was the action of one volcano against your several decades of man actions... come on...

    Climate will always change, or what do you expect, that planet earth's temperature will stay the same forever? Hello?

    Just adapt to the changes and stop trying to control what you can't control at all...
     
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    We need to stop pretending that both sides of the issue are writing climate change articles. Only one side is, and it's the wrong side. The rest of us have enough common sense to know that weather goes in cycles, and cannot be defined by the linear analysis of pseudo-science climate change whackos, nor can it be controlled by the absurd policies of liberal greenie weenie freaks.

    If you had an ounce of common sense, you would be advocating a return to the simple policies of cleaner air, land, and water. The tangible things that can be achieved by real environmentalists based upon value analysis and prioritization; not by the liberal fruitcakes that infest the halls of government and academia.
     
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    Woohoo!! Look at you GO!! Amazing dancing ability.

    Please provide all the PROOF that today's MUCH MILDER WARMING by comparison, is NOT caused by the same catalysts as 10,000-15,000 years ago, or admit you HAVE NO LINEAR THOUGHT to support your claims about AGW in today's world.

    Or just keep on do this; it's fun to watch:


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    Wait...but according to you and the gullible others like you, it's CO2 and us nasty all powerful humans.

    Seems you've all boiled it down to a pretty simple cause/effect.
     
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    That's because we've done decades of experiments to find this data out.
     
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    Taxcutter says:
    But who is to be in control of it? Government is not trustworthy.
     
  19. TheTaoOfBill

    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    Well. We know that today's global warming is caused by increased CO2. We know that CO2 has increased because of human activity. And we know humans weren't able to produce this level of CO2 10,000 years ago.

    So I think I just proved that climate change 10,000 years ago happened for a different reason.
     
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    Jesus Christ.... lol

    If the sun is the cause of all temperature changes on Earth why did Australia experience a record breaking heat wave while we were experiencing a polar vortex. Was the sun angry at Australia but cool with us?
     
  21. RichT2705

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    Actually, all you have proven is that you will totally ignore the IPCC's admissions of today, and continue to promote the theories they held in the past.....
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    I've already given you a response which you have not figured out how to rebuttal. IPCC has not changed it's stance on climate change. And repeating this does not make it true.
     
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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's been rebuttaled by the links I already gave you. The IPCC cant find the warming, despite 17 years of the highest CO2 levels on record. Want different links for it than what I gave you already?

    http://www.ijreview.com/2013/09/812...t-uns-ipcc-confesses-global-warming-15-years/

    http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/09...lue-what-caused-the-15-year-pause-in-warming/

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/en...dmit-global-warming-forecasts-were-wrong.html

    http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/ipcc-head-admits-17-years-of-no-warming/


    Pachauri himself rebuttaled you with his admission.
     
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    TheTaoOfBill Well-Known Member

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    I gave you a chart that showed warming has been happening for the past 17 years. It's been happening in the oceans. So you're incorrect.
     
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    Pachauri says your chart is garbage with his admission of no warming. Go tell him he's full of crap.
    Show him your chart.....
     

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