Horrible! Obama Blames Racism For His Lower Approval Ratings

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  1. bomac

    bomac New Member Past Donor

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    Did you read that in the New Yorker article or did you just see it from the writer for Bloomberg?
     
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    I see. So in your view its fair to call anyone who's German a Nazi, right?
     
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    "Just cause you feel it, doesn't mean it's there." - radiohead
     
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    Oblah-blah isn't accountable for anything!
     
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    Are liberals within this thread somehow trying to rewrite history and now claim that liberal Dems who opposed the Civil Right Act are now somehow conservatives? Liberal characters such as Al Gore's father and Bill Clinton's mentor Fulbright?

    "Albert Gore Sr., a liberal who was elected as a Democrat to seven terms in the
    House of Representatives and three in the Senate and saw his son, Albert Jr.,
    become vice president, died Dec. 5 at the family home in Carthage" -Washington Post

    "The Russian experiment{sic} in socialism is scarcely more radical for
    modern times than was the American Declaration of Independence in the days of
    George III.
    " -J. William Fulbright
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Obama would be a lot easier to respect if he had stood up to his own party and refused to be referred to as 'black.'

    Can you imagine a Colin Powell or Condi Rice throwing their race around? Nobody could in 2007 when Obama allowed himself to be marketed & sold as a black man. Why should anybody else be expected to forget his skin color when he (and the 'bots) keep reminding us he's black?

    You can't use the race card for both a positive and a negative. Yeah... it got him elected, but it's too late to cry about using it now.

    It's the race card. It was just as ugly when he was called the First Black President as it is when used as a slur.

    The Dems shoulda thought about the consequences of following the Storybook instead of reality.

    [video=youtube;EgIFV7jXBFQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIFV7jXBFQ[/video]
     
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    Yosh Shmenge New Member

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    Perhaps. Perhaps not. But I assure you that under 35 leftists weren't the only people voting for Obama.
    And the party members that practically knocked Hillary Clinton down to go genuflect before Barry Obama were not all youngsters.

    Such bizarre "reasoning". White males were the only people running so there is no choice to be made where there is no choice to be had. This says nothing about all the people that gladly voted for the black guy.
     
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    Because libs like to bring it up when it has nothing to do with the discussion at hand.
     
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    Not true. Racism has gone "underground" for the most part. There are still those that are very out front with their attitudes, but it's not hard to uncover it in those that prefer the more subtle approach. Racism is not merely a simplistic hatred. It is, more often, broad sympathy toward some and broader skepticism toward others. An unarmed boy is shot and killed by another guy with a gun in a confrontation, and the boy is immediately portrayed as a "thug", which is the new "N" word. An NFL player goes off in a post game interview moments after making a game winning play, with adrenalin pumping, and he's called a "Porch Monkey", and of course, a "thug", on social media. Policies are put forth that have a direct impact on a certain segment of the population disproportionately to others such as voter ID laws, using non-existent excuses to justify the law. Is there a history of doing this kind of thing? Yes! Everyone has heard of poll taxes. It's not something we haven't seen before. If you can make it more difficult for some people to vote, you can discourage those people from taking part in the process, and you can manipulate an election.
     
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    All of what you say might be true, if the United States didn't have a long history of slavery, and overt racism, including Jim Crow, and segregation that separated the races. The very fact that it took an Act of Congress to insure civil rights, and voting rights, wouldn't have been necessary if the distinction between the races didn't exist for over 200 years. Old habits are hard to break, and it's obvious that there are still those that cling to the past.
     
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    and why is it that only white men were running ?
     
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    This country made great strides toward closing the gap between the races starting with passage of the civil rights act and progressing until 2007. It was the DNC who chose to remind us of our color differences... again, by reminding us over and over Barack Hussain Obama is black.

    So much for 40 years progress toward evolving into a color-blind nation. We're right back to us vs. them.

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    That is pure nonsense. If anything, the media was hyper over a black president. Your right wing propaganda source is letting you down.
     
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    Libs make me sick talking about racism that cockroach in office got elected because blacks voted for him just because he is black.Black are just as racest as whites if not more.
     
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    First of all, racism is a multiple-way street. Heck, Blacks even are racist to each other many times. What do you call 95% of Blacks voting for a Black President because he is Black?

    Also, show me how requiring an ID to vote would suppress anyone. IDs are needed for many things in life. You cannot live without one.
     
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    Liberal Dems didn't oppose the civil rights act. What does Al Gore's fathers political views have to do with Al Gore, and what did Fulbright have to do with molding Clintons view? Clinton learned how politics works, but that doesn't mean he held the same views. They're different people. For one thing Gore Sr. voted with the knowledge of a threat to his re-election in TN. And are you suggesting that Richard Russell, the segregationist was a liberal? Just because you were a Democrat didn't mean you were a liberal. Gore was one of only three Democratic senators from the former Confederate states who did not sign the 1956 Southern Manifesto opposing integration, the others being Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B. Johnson of Texas (who was not asked to sign) and Tennessee's other senator, Estes Kefauver, who refused to sign. South Carolina Senator J. Strom Thurmond tried to get Gore to sign the Southern Manifesto, but Gore refused. Are you suggesting that Strom was a Liberal? If so, why would he later join the Republicans? Are Republicans liberals?? Gore could not, however, be regarded as an integrationist, as he voted against some major civil rights legislation, including the Civil Rights Act of 1964. He did support the Voting Rights Act of 1965. But Gore was not a liberal in any sense of the word by today's standards.

    By 1970, Gore was considered to be fairly vulnerable for a three-term incumbent Senator, as a result of his liberal positions on many issues such as the Vietnam War and Civil Rights. This was especially risky, electorally, as at the time Tennessee was moving more and more toward the Republican Party. Can't be a liberal in TN.

    For you to suggest that Southern Democrats were liberals, is laughable and moronic.
     
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    In other words liberal Democrats were voting against the Civil Rights act for whatever reason you want to justify it. Just what I said. Furtunately the GOP pushed the bill through.
     
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    Right, because everyone knows how the GOP is the party blacks align themselves with.

    "Most people don’t talk about the fact that Martin Luther King was a Republican.”

    That’s a quote from Ada Fisher, a Republican National Committeewoman from North Carolina, that was published without qualification or correction this week by ABC News.

    King was not a partisan and never endorsed any political candidate. In a 1958 interview, King said “I don’t think the Republican party is a party full of the almighty God nor is the Democratic party. They both have weaknesses … And I’m not inextricably bound to either party.”

    King did, however, weigh in on the Republican party during his lifetime. In Chapter 23 of his autobiography, King writes this about the 1964 Republican National Convention:

    "The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The “best man” at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade".

    "Senator Goldwater had neither the concern nor the comprehension necessary to grapple with this problem of poverty in the fashion that the historical moment dictated. On the urgent issue of civil rights, Senator Goldwater represented a philosophy that was morally indefensible and socially suicidal. While not himself a racist, Mr. Goldwater articulated a philosophy which gave aid and comfort to the racist. His candidacy and philosophy would serve as an umbrella under which extremists of all stripes would stand. In the light of these facts and because of my love for America, I had no alternative but to urge every Negro and white person of goodwill to vote against Mr. Goldwater and to withdraw support from any Republican candidate that did not publicly disassociate himself from Senator Goldwater and his philosophy."

    In 2008, King’s son Martin Luther King III said “It is disingenuous to imply that my father was a Republican. He never endorsed any presidential candidate, and there is certainly no evidence that he ever even voted for a Republican.” Garrow claimed there is little doubt King voted for Kennedy in 1960 and Johnson in 1964.

    There's a reason that blacks don't vote Republican. Maybe you can figure it out.
     
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    Cockroach? Right. No hate in this post. BTW....he got elected twice. Would it be accurate to say that all those before him got elected because they were white? So the first time in our history that a black man runs for president against a white man, and wins, it's all because he's black? If that's the case, will there ever be a time when a black man can run and win, when you won't say that he won because he's black? As long as you continue to use that as an excuse, how is that not establishing your own racism as a fact?
     
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    Has anyone ever suggested that? What's with the straw man.


    Have I said anything about MLK? Why the need to start a new topic?


    Perhaps they should. Liberal policies have been an absolute cancer to black communities. Dividing the country by the color of a person's skin instead of by the content of their character has also not been helpful.
     
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    I don't know, what do you call blacks voting the same percentage for Johnson in 1964? I don't think Johnson was black, so you want to admit that you have no basis of your claim? Maybe blacks realize what racist hypocrites conservatives are, and since most (if not all) conservatives vote Republican, common sense would dictate that blacks would not vote for Republicans.

    If you want proof of this, look no further than this forum. There have been numerous calls for conservatives to challenge racist remarks, but to date, all you hear are crickets....
     
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    Surviving slavery, segregation and discrimination has forged a special pride in African-Americans. Now some are saying this hard-earned pride has become prejudice in the form of blind loyalty to President Barack Obama.

    Are black people supporting Obama mainly because he’s black? If race is just one factor in blacks’ support of Obama, does that make them racist? Can blacks’ support for Obama be compared with white voters who may favor his Republican challenger, Mitt Romney, because he’s white?

    If only there was just some history of black voters casting ballots for presidential candidates who weren’t black! That 88 percent of black voters who sided with John Kerry in the 2004 general? A fluke. The 90 percent of black voters who cast ballots for Al Gore in 2000? Outliers, probably. The 83 and 84 percent of black voters who voted for Bill Clinton, the 89 percent who favored Michael Dukakis in 1988, the 91 percent who rode with Mondale in 1984, or the 83 percent that voted for Carter in 1980 and 1976? The AP apparently needs more data before it it’s willing to describe this as a consistent pattern. Black people vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, and have done so for about six decades for a host of reasons.

    Pennsylvania judge strikes down voter ID law
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...2d620e-7fa2-11e3-93c1-0e888170b723_story.html

    A Pennsylvania judge on Friday struck down a controversial law requiring voters to show photo identification before they cast their ballots, the latest ruling in what has become a nationwide battle over voter ID laws.

    Commonwealth Court Judge Bernard L. McGinley ruled that Pennsylvania’s voter identification law is unconstitutional and places an unreasonable burden on people trying to exercise their right to vote.

    ID's are needed for many things in life, and people have them. What is involved here is creating an ID that people don't already have, and putting them through hoops to obtain them. Secondly, ID's are used to show for things that don't involve rights. A drivers license is a privilege, not a right. That privilege can be taken from you. A right cannot. Voting is a Right. You have no right to buying beer, for example. Or flying on an airplane. And...You don't need a special ID to demonstrate your right to vote. The purpose of the PA voter ID was designed to win an election by limiting the voters that would vote for Obama.

    [video=youtube_share;XreSZvgdZwA]http://youtu.be/XreSZvgdZwA[/video]
     

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