Obamacare Enrollment Numbers? 'They Are Lying to Us,' Rep. Blackburn Says

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    AND they are the voters in November.
     
  2. goober

    goober New Member

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    And while the right has been trumpeting those stories, when the press does their job and tracks down the actual person they are talking about, it turns out that that person is actually better off under ObamaCare, in real life.
    Surprise, the right wing is actually lying to the people that they have been lying to for years, and those people still haven't caught on.......
     
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    iamkurtz Banned

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    LOL!

    http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/...ed-up-for-obamacare-now-have-higher-premiums/

    CLEVELAND (CBS Cleveland/AP) — The CEO of the Cleveland Clinic says that a majority of Americans who signed up for Obamacare have seen their premiums rise.

    “About three-quarters of them find that their premiums are higher than they had been previously with other insurance,” Toby Cosgrove told Fox News.

    Cosgrove explained that the Affordable Care Act is having a “major effect” upon health care providers.

    “We know for example that we’re going to get paid less for what we do,” Cosgrove stated. “Hospitals are going to be paid less for what they do. We also know that insurers are paying less for what we do.”
     
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    How long will they play mum when they start realizing that the goal of this is to get to one single too-big-to-fail provider and they aren't the one?
     
  5. goober

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    My insurance has been higher every year for the last 40 years, do you have a point?

    What has been discovered when the press tracks down these stories about premiums doubling, is they find that the person actually qualifies for a subsidy that lowers their net cost, that's what actually happens and to counter that, you post a persons opinion that doesn't exactly contradict what I said.
    And actually if you read what you posted, costs are going down......
     
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    Can you read the post? Premiums are now higher under Obamacare than they were previously.

    Where does it say that costs are going down in my link?
     
  7. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    I would think that has been taken into consideration already, don't you? I mean it's not like a big secret or anything....LOL
     
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    Just another crazy thing Marcia Marcia Marcia says. Here are some of her other lulus:

    “If he is a skeet shooter, why have we not heard of this, why have we not seen photos, why has he not referenced it?”

    Blackburn insists on being called “congressman” and is also a member of the infamous C-Street “Fellowship,” a Republican mostly-boys club.

    Being named one of the 24 most corrupt members of Congress by CREW in 2008 for her repeated failure to file accurate campaign-finance reports.

    Being one of the co-sponsors of the “Birther Bill” aimed at questioning Obama’s eligibility to be President.

    Opposing EPA efforts to regulate greenhouse gasses on the basis of taxing “cow farts.”

    Opposing gun control because “hammers and hatchets” kill people too.

    Saying we shouldn’t “cry emergency every time we ‘have a Katrina.”

    -----Want to start threads on each one of her crazy statements?
     
  9. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ever heard of Democratic Congressman who' afraid the island of Guam may tip over and capsize if we send too many troops over there? :roflol:
     
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    What does that have to do with Marcia?

    But I'm glad you agree so much that you equated that crazy statement with her crazy statement.
     
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    For those who don't have degrees in business, paying hospitals less means costs are going down......
     
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    The fact is there is no basis for the accusation that they're "cooking the books". It's something dreamed up by a republican politician being interviewed on Fox (imagine that!) and others grabbed it and ran.

    Signups for the ACA has met it's expectations and after today it's over.
     
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    "These are not the results you are looking for." -- Obiwan Obama.
     
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    we will know soon enough when the insurance companies come a knocking looking for a bail out

    - - - Updated - - -

    and so will the service and quality
     
  15. goober

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    so this was a scam to make the insurance companies rich, and they are going to need a bailout......OK, coming from people who called Reagan a fiscal conservtive, that makes perfect sense...


    Have you no faith in the market?
     
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    I don't, actually. No Conservative can best Democrat when it comes to stupidity.
     
  17. Professor Peabody

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    Listen to Shela Jackson Lee sometime..............
     
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    Just an observation but I have worked at a hospital for 10 years and have not heard a single person tell me how Obamacare has negative affected their life. I find that odd considering the conservative meme. I don't care about what someone posted on the internet I care about what actual people tell me. Anyone can find some bull(*)(*)(*)(*) on the internet I mean some who has actually been personally affect that I can verify personally.
     
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    LOL! The law hasn't even been fully implemented yet. Ask these same people a year or two from now if they like the law. And the bullcrap is Obamacare. Deal with it. Have you read any part of the law at all? And 'verify personally'? Like you would expend the energy needed to verify anything? Please. Stop listening to Harry Reid BTW..
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    http://townhall.com/columnists/john...s-obamacare-horror-stories-n1727584/page/full

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/healt...ch-2604-a-month-in-california/article/2545766

    http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324616604578304072420873666

    http://conservatives4palin.com/2013...essentially-a-health-care-rationing-body.html
     
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    The way conservative cry about it. have you told them it isn't fully enacted because I don't think they know by the way they post here.
     
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    Actually it was the Canadians who built the problematic web site.

    It's the Americans who built the problematic plan.
     
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    True, but "we've" been working on it since October. Our best and brightest.
    Sad thing is you could walk into almost any high school in the country and find a group of kids that could build this site in a couple of weeks. Probably less than a $1000 to boot.
     
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    A couple of points. 1] You obviously failed to read the links or simply disregarded them. 2] I have no idea what you just mumbled. :confusion:
     
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    That's how socialists set up all their programs -- "From each according to their ability; to each according to their need". It's the bedrock premise of Communism, Socialism, and every other "ism" that makes the productive class pay for the parasite class.

    The books are so cooked about "how many" are enrolled, and with so many footnotes parsing which falls into what category, etc., that it is muddied to the point of indistinguishability. What I want to know, and what the Obama regime refuses to tell is how many of those enrolled in this socialized medicine fraud have actually PAID PREMIUMS? It should be as simple as making one simple inquiry of the data, but can the Obama regime do that? Oh, HELL, no! It would also be very useful to know how many of those enrolled are being given the welfare-suck "subsidies"! Nobody's talking about that, either....

    Prediction: the only way this socialist welfare program will ever begin to "pay for itself" will be by overcharging the productive class to pay for the parasite class. And, thanks to the Supreme Court, this MANDATORY system cannot be escaped. But the full force of this monstrosity won't take effect until after the last Congressional election that Obama will have to face, later this year....
     
  25. Wehrwolfen

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    Then you've been kept in the basement near the autopsy room for the last four years, especially since October 2013. From your demeanor, you're not a medical professional. SEIU is feeding you a bunch of disinformation. Mopping the floors in a hospital doesn't make you medical pro.
     

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