Ohio teacher fired over comment on black president

It's a shame the lying, incompetent Obama is such a poor example for black kids, or any kids for that matter.

 

Lets use this example to explore the problem. Lets say that there is career public servant, an investor working for the FBI. His name is Samid Fazes, and he is just what is stated above.

He was raised as part of a radical faction in Hamas in Jenin, and at one time, in his youth, was a participant in terrorist rocket attacks and bombings into Israel.

After watching his leadership cynically send a younger brother with a suicide vest into a school bus of Israeli children, and looking at the blood and gore and mayhem, he had a complete change of character and life goal.

He managed to get smuggled through Mexico into the U.S. and applied for asylum, was granted asylum, and during the FBI investigation revealed to the investigators very useful intel, and translations. From this beginning he worked over 20 years to become a mid level FBI Agent and EARNED U.S. Citizenship.

He is current part of the FBI Counter Terrorism Task force and works and a SME and Translator for middle eastern issues.

He is a huge Asset and Loyal Citizen of the United States.

He would still be the WRONG PERSON to make head of the entire department!

His RACE and BACKGROUND make him inappropriate.

Not solely based on his own actions, but also based on the actions of others currently taking place in the U.S. and in the Middle East.

He did not Cause those actions, he cannot control those people. He is not responsible for 911 or the Boston Bombing. But the safety and security of 330 Million people is at stake!

We have very few top level leadership positions of great responsibility, and while he should continue to work for the counter terrorism unit, there is nothing that guarantees him a position as its leader, and due to actions by OTHERS, he would currently be a poor choice.

The position and service of that top leadership position is too important to allow any with possible problems the position. If he is truly an effective and loyal agent he will understand this, and follow his appointed leader with duty and performance.

We only get ONE President of the United States, and you could easily make the argument that he is the single most powerful man on the planet.

Currently, due to actions of OTHERS, selecting a Democratic Black President would be a mistake!

We cannot afford to give that position of ultimate responsibility to someone who cannot be criticized or questioned without use of the Race Card.

The Democratic Black Candidate may be a perfectly fine fellow who NEVER played the Race Card, but OTHERS will! We cannot take that chance!

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I can't believe anyone is defending this teacher. The kindest thing I can wish to think of him is that he's just one of those people with a warped sense of humor who has no idea how offensive his jokes come out sounding. And even if that is the case and he's not merely an outright bigot, he still doesn't need to be working with children, much less as a teacher. Especially since this clearly isn't the first time. How can anyone think looking a kid in the face and saying something like that about his or her goal in life is okay?

 

Lol...It's like saying we don't need another white president.
Given what we've had up to Obama, we should let the women and hispanics and blacks do it for a while.

 

I am NOT defending this teacher. I haven't even read the particulars of his case. I do NOT CARE about it.

I am Defending the RIGHT and RESPONSIBILITY of all Americans to be able to publicly criticize any public official for any reason without having the PC Race Police get you fired.

Maybe the guy should have been verbally censured or put on a few days leave without pay, if this is the first time. If not, well, then let the system follow its proscribed and legally documented coarse.

My argument is that there are circumstances when it is not only ok, but actually responsible to make statements like the ones described.

In fact, because of the Left ridiculous over use of the Race Card, and the Actions of President Obama and Eric Holder, at this time, the American Voters should be very wary of any Democratic Black Candidate. This is because the MSM and the Elite White Liberals have shown that they have sufficient BIAS to not be doing due diligence in vetting and investigating Democratic Black Candidates.

Obama would not be in office if the MSM and Elite White Liberals had done due diligence and not played the Race Card over and over and over...

The election of the POTUS is no small thing. For now, primarily due to the actions of OTHERS, we cannot TRUST a Democratic Black Candidate.

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(Shrug) Fine with me. Marco Rubio or Bobby Jindel for president! Condoleezza Rice for president!

 

that is just silly logic, I do not think a racism helps children to grow...

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I did not state racism, I made a comment of Racial Politics in America, and the ability to hold an office holder accountable.

An Un-Criticizable and Un-Accountable POTUS is a lethally dangerous thing.

If American Racial Politics have reached the point were a Democratic Black Candidate would be an Unaccountable office holder, then the American Voters have a responsibility to NOT put one in office.

Part of the process of democracy is openly and publicly discussing the issue of Race Card Politics.

That is a Racial Discussion, but not always a RACIST discussion!

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Nonsense. The mistake would be to let the actions of right-wingers, who are trying to run the country into the ground because we had the temerity to elect a black man as potus, influence who the dems should run for potus.

 

Condie would make a fine POTUS.

Sadly, She won't take the job.

 

Okie dokie buddy. I can see you go to great lengths to justify why you should be allowed to say racist crap. If you can't even criticize Barrack Obama without being racist, you probably shouldn't even comment on politics at all. The man basically hands you criticism on a silver platter and yet you STILL can't comment without being racist.

That's pathetic.

 

were talking about the racist comments of a teacher in a position of power to a child that is confined to their classroom

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How do you KNOW they were racist comments?

Have I not shown how such comments could be perfectly legitimate?

Have we not ALL seen how any comment a Conservative White Male makes about race, will be totally misconstrued and misrepresented?

I'm willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt. I would have the school management review the case very carefully, and in their attention the probability that Race Card Politics are being played very heavily.

There are a whole host of posters on this thread who have blatantly and completely condemned the man and his statements, yet they CANNOT possibly KNOW that his comments were Racist or inappropriate. This is an example of RACE CARD POLITICS here on PF!

I will not stand by Idle and let my country devolve into Race Card Fascism!

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the comments were from a teacher in response to a black child with dreams of being president when he grew up...

 

Teaches shoudnt give political opinions no matter what they are.

 

And as such, that child needs to understand, at very early age, that due to what is happening with Leftist Politics in America, any HINT of a Democratic Aligned BLACK Candidate playing the Race Card, will invalidate him as a Candidate for high office!

Communicating and Educating that student of that reality is in his interests!

Now, this particular teacher may have set out to accomplish that task, and through gross insensitivity and poor communication skills, totally botched the job! So, Fire him for being a BAD TEACHER, not for his opinions on Race and Politics.

He Might Also be the next thing to David Duke and a closet member of the KKK, and a total Complete Racist! I do not know, and neither can you!

Due to the Charge Racial Politics in America at this time, I am more than willing to give the guy another review, the benefit of the doubt, and a chance to make his case.

I certainly would not take what we can know here at PF as enough evidence to Condemn the man!

I would simply call for a one time re-investigation and TRUST the officials of the School Board and City Management.

I would only ask for that in today's Race Card charged environment.

Ten years ago I would have taken the word of the school board first, and only questioned on further evidence.

I always question anything remotely like Race Card Politics, when living under President Obama and his associates!

Remember the Obama / Gates Beer Summit!

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A mid school civics teacher should not give his political opinion? What the hell!?

He is demonstrating and setting the example of the FREEDOM of America for God's Sake!

Of coarse he should give his opinion! But his should make sure the entire class knows the difference between when he is giving his opinion, and when he is teaching principles and facts. He should encourage the children to form their own opinions and share them.

An algebra text book shouldn't be choked full of word problem examples filled with Leftie propaganda! But there are subject areas and teaching positions where having a public political opinion is ESSENTIAL.
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seriously, you see a teacher in a position of power making racist comments to a child that is confined to their classroom as a good thing?

talk about putting party politics ahead of our children...

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You have a very original view on why our next Democrat Presidential candidate should be white. Although I get the feeling your real issue is the word 'Democrat'. I don't like most Democrats either, but for different reasons than you, I'm sure. I also presume you don't want a woman Democrat President because then the gender card will get played? But are you saying a non-white woman Republican President will be fine for you because that way the Democrats will get slapped with the race and gender cards if they complain about the new regime's policies?

In any case, look at it from the kid's point of view. The kid says "I want to be President when I grow up," and this teacher doesn't say, "Well run as Republican then." This teacher says, "We don't need another black President". I can't comprehend it as anything but racist or at best the most idiotic fail attempt at some bizarre form of humor ever. It certainly doesn't come off as a sociological treatise on the interplay of politics and political correctness in America. He just sounds like a bigot.

Edit: Found some other gems out of this guy's mouth. Should I presume our next Democrat President must be straight and happy with the gender he was born with, as well?



"In 2013, administrators gave him a verbal warning for calling a student “stupid” and for calling other students “gay.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...cist-comments-article-1.1761975#ixzz2zNDk94bO

 

You do NOT know this happened. I cannot know, with any degree of accuracy either!

It is reasonable and FAIR to give the guy a second hearing and a chance to defend himself!

It is UNFAIR to condemn him here on this forum, given what FACTS, very few, that we know.

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Look, this CAN EASILY be taken too far. If we automatically endorse any Republican Candidate, simply because he is not a Democrat, we are being just as irresponsible.

I am much more saying, the MSM and the Elite White Liberals CANNOT be trusted, do your own Homework!

As to his response being clumsy and stupid, on the surface, IF, and that is a VERY BIG IF what we are being told on this issue is true, I think the teacher should be reviewed for being an incompetent teacher, forget anything associated with racial politics.

But WE here on PF cannot know anything with any degree of certainty at this time, because of the Leftie Obama Race Card Politically Charged nature of America at the moment.

On Race, Obama has been a Divider, not a leader. Obama has been the MOST racist President, not Post Racial.

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lol, funny

 

so now your switching from it was a good thing this teacher did... to a we don't know for sure the teacher did this?

that is progress I guess....
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Well I don't think they're liberal, but if they're in the White House, you can bet I don't trust them. Not with our current campaign financing making it so virtually all politicians work for the rich and not us.

But let's assume you have a Presidential candidate you agree on about every single issue. You really want this person to win. Wouldn't it behoove you for this person to be African American, female, and gay so that her political opponents will be practically muzzled for fear of being labeled bigots?

 

I do not care whether our next President is a Man or a Woman, Black, White, Brown or Violent.

I care that ANY person we allow to reach the point of being a major party primary candidate has been very thoroughly vetting and investigated.

I no longer TRUST the MSM or the Elite White Liberals on this subject in the slightest.

I suspect that any Democrat Woman, or any Democrat Black, would make a bad President, Because of the vile actions of OTHERS, but it depends entirely on the person, and I always give the benefit of the doubt.

I also understand that in the end, I am picking between one Democrat and one Republican. It also depends on the nature of the Republican Candidate!

I do not say I would never vote for a Democratic Woman or Black, but after Obama and the obscene Race Card politics, it will take much more than the usual convincing.

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I'm puzzled. The race card would benefit you if the candidate was 'your' candidate doing what you want. Is it that you suspect a candidate who isn't a white male won't do what you want?

I feel the same way about wealthy candidates backed by big money, actually. They never do what I want. I'm ready to see a working class candidate, not politically or financially connected, one who knows what it's like to be ordinary and knows all the troubles that go with it. Just the kind of person James Madison seemingly didn't think fit for high office.

"The man who is possessed of wealth, who lolls on his sofa or rolls in his carriage, cannot judge the wants or feelings of the day-laborer." James Madison

In case you haven't already figured it out, I'd have been fired for telling a private ivy league student that America doesn't need another rich President. (Actually I still wouldn't crap on some poor kid's aspirations like that, but I'd probably be thinking it.)

 

No, because I am a highly science educated technologist, engineer and inventor, I view the world through a very particular lens, and come to solutions and opinions quite often very different than most Americans and even most of my peers.

I do not expect any President to do the things I want or even agree with 99% of the time. That is OK, that is the Bargain of living in a democracy!

What scares me is when people in positions of extreme responsibility and POWER are above Criticism, Question and Reproach!

I am not against Obama because of his Race, I am against Obama because of his Racism, and his use of the Race Card Politics which have made him effectively above question.

Fascism is ugly, inefficient and always fails. I love America.