IRS computer crashed erased Lerner emails

Because the dumb(*)(*)(*)(*) treasonous America-hating PUTRID Obama supporters keep insisting, for EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS SCANDALS that there's nothing there.

And now that there's something even YOU can't deny...

...you pretend it's about the Americans natural hatred for disgusting scumbag apologetic liberals.

HINT:

It ain't about the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing scumbag stupid(*)(*)(*)(*) moron follow-the-leader up-obama's-ass voters that post on the internet.

Figure it out, nobody gives a (*)(*)(*)(*) about you except when you get in the way of freedom..which is all the time...

It's about the most corrupt president in the history of hte nation and the only deliberate traitor. YOUR president, not ours.

 

Certainly we will hear in the near future that the hard drives holding the archives were replaced recently...at taxpayer expense, of course.

 

Don't be silly.

That's this week's squirrel, trotted out to hide the effectiveness of the Obama Doctine in Iraq., which was a really convenient squirrel for plastering over the Bergdahl Deserter story, which was done to whitewash the VA murders.

Next week there'll be a new squirrel.

SSDD.

 

Thats exactly right. Even if the hard drive crashed you can pull the tape out and retrieve the data even if its tedious. Its a complete and total lie. All healthcare data centers must comply with DIACAP security regulations and backup requirements. This is just one more lie for the pile.

The senators should demand the failed drive and give it to any competent data retrieval company. Unless they did a DoD wipe we can get those files and if they did the wipe we know they did it to hide the data.

 

First of all, you have not shown "how emails work" as you so quaintly put it either. And your rather crude example is but one of many possibilities, of which only one is correct:

1. Do you know as a fact that the IRS and any other agency that Ms. Lerner's mail client might have been client to runs MS Exchange exclusively? In not, we must branch, because your little scenario doesn't cover it at all.

2. Presuming that we're even past point 1 above, the next question is what protocol(s) were being used? MAPI? POP? IMAP? Obviously (to me at least) the decision of where to look depends upon which of these are in play. POP mail deletes incoming mail from the server when the client receives it, so mail can be at the client and not the server. IMAP and MAPI don't. IMAP doesn't sync, so some messages can remain on the server and not the client, or the client and not the server. With MAPI many possible combinations are possible, depending on how the server and client applications are set up.

3. Despite your overly simplistic claim, the fact of the matter is that MS Exchange can and does delete mail. And because the NT filesystem (NTFS) that Exchange stores everything on has no native undelete support, once it's gone, it's gone. There are 3rd party recovery tools, but since Exchange doesn't save each e-mail as individual files, they're not relevant.

So, please back up your claim. If things are as you claim, why does Mr. Issa have Ms. Lerner's personal computer? Does he have the Exchange server(s) or not?

Once again that's only your claim. Off-site backup doesn't "just happen" by some mystical force! Nor does it happen by default. What proof do you have that the Exchange Server(s) that Ms. Lerner connected to have this alleged "back up location off site". What is the location?

That's not true. It's also not relevant because the IRS is not a business.

Is that a disclaimer? Because as a college educated, Microsoft certified IT systems engineer with 30 years on the job, I would agree that you are lying.

 

Actually everyone who knows the rudiments of how computers work know that the "hard drive" is indeed the storage device. And while it will take a complete and functioning brain to grok that, I'm guessing that you're shooting at the lame-brained audience based in no small part on the juvenile name-calling in your post that I'm not going to dignify with a quotation.

 

You are making ridiculous claims. There is no way on this planet that any government agency allows their staff, especially the IRS to run their emails on a local machine and not on a network server. Even if you are on laptop remotely, it goes through the network server and then to your laptop. Everything is stored on the network servers when it comes to emails. A crashed laptop would mean an hour or two to bring up it's replacement which would quickly be populated with all the email information from the network server.

NO ONE in medium sized business to larger size or at a government agency runs their email off a local machine. Your forwarding a fantasy land scenario. You should turn in your MSCE and quit if you actually believe this bull crap.

 

The IRS claiming they "lost" those e-mails is a ridiculous claim.

Every Obama-butt-sniffing shill supporter on the internet is going to have to make ridiculous claims to live down to their religious beliefs.

 

So all government emails are ONLY stored on hard drives?

Because I said they are not, and you are telling me im wrong.

 

No, but you failed to back yours up. And now you're attacking the person rather than the issue. That fails too.

 

Nope, that doesn't work either. You're drawing a phony conclusion. Care to try again?

 

I think the IRS is lying.

Obama and his pals are lying to us.

 

What conclusion? That the emails arent solely stored on hard drives?

 

but what if we have an IRS official make a statement under oath the those e-mails was backed up?

Rep. Jason Chaffetz: IRS testified that Lois Lerner’s emails were archived

[video=youtube;Ax6QGmKhRwo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpag e&v=Ax6QGmKhRwo[/video]


so lying under oath
bring Mr. Koskinen back in and threaten that old man with jail and watch him sing like a bird

 

Let me know if you can settle on a single narrative, k?

 

While it's true a hard drive is a storage device your personal computers hard drive is not where your emails are stored. If that were the case you could only access your email from one computer. With that simple logic pointed out to you what point are you trying to make besides muddy water?

 

All i know is that obama and his flunkies at the IRS are hiding something.

 

educate your self

Veteran IT Professional Gives Six Reasons Why the IRS’ Claim That It ‘Lost’ Two Years of Lois Lerner’s Emails Is ‘Simply Not Feasible’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...f-lois-lerners-emails-is-simply-not-feasible/

Now try to spin this

 

You cant spin it period. Even 12 yr olds understand raid configurations and hotswaps. One of our drives just died at work, we didn't even have to turn anything off just pop a new one in which gave us plenty of time in case the other three "crashed".
Ok this story broke yesterday where are the emails? They should be back by now. Is this the Obamacare website team working on this? Is it going to cost us a half billion to get the emails back?
Also if the are using exchange losing the emails is an impossibility due to a crash, (from our IT guru) there would need to be a massive well organized team effort to wipe the trail in all locations and even if they were able to do that, there will be a trail on both ends showing the email was deleted and if that happens when the deletion list is compared it means it was done on purpose to hide the email content. If they were dumb enough to do this they will be caught.
Its like saying if a 100 people are cc'd on one email and expecting all 100 to delete it on their end from their personal PC as well as at the server level. Then multiply that for all the combination of emails flying back and fourth. If those lists are compared and found to be the same Lois is going to the slammer along with her IT guys at the IRS. Werent these emails under court order to maintain?

 

Go for it!

No, that's just you writing in bold.

Thanks for the video. I give you credit for that since it's about the second credible citation in over 100 posts. I regret to say however that it does not substantiate your claim above. Neither of the terms "backed up" and "archived" were ever spoken, not even indirectly. But it did reveal a lot! I don't suppose that you can find a copy of that subpoena mentioned, could you?

Yes, I did catch the part where Mr. Chaffetz lied, saying to Dr. Koskinen "you're an IT specialist" in the midst of intense harassment. Thanks to "the Google" I can see that Dr. Koskinen was in fact the 48th Commissioner of Internal Revenue for the United States. That's a top management job, not a specialist job, and it's IRS not IT. To further confirm the facts, Dr. Koskinen's bio says that his letters are in physics (BA, Magna Cum Laude, Duke, 1961) and law (Juris Doctor, Yale Law, 1964), which is interesting because when Mr. Chaffetz was puffing mightily about the alleged subpoena, Dr. Koskinen totally schooled the BYU placekicker on the law!

"For this subpoena, the court would rule that it's far too broad. ...a judge would not enforce it." The Juris Doctor also noted that the sweeping nature* of the subpoena's language (as told by Mr. Chaffetz) would require "years" to completely fulfill.

I also see that Mr. Chaffetz lied about other things, including an utterly false portrayal of how the e-mails would be retrieved. It was despicable, and another good example of why career politicians shouldn't play "judge".

As the video clearly showed, Dr. Koskinen was more than a match for that dog and pony show! He knows his material, and uses it well. I pity the next fool who tries to take him on!

* "All communications sent or received by Lois Lerner from January 1st, 2009 to August 2nd, 2013" is a mighty large task, as it includes everything from scribbled notes on paper to satellite video conferences. Just doing the due diligence on listing every media form to search could take months if not years, and still miss some.

 

Learn grammar.

It proves that people in the GOP lie a lot, that's for sure!

"The Blaze" is not a credible source, as it only has a reputation for telling lies from the pit of hell. And indeed the "article" lies about the supposed "IT Professional's" credentials. Then the man lies about what "telling a falsehood" is. Anyone can make wild speculations and then knock them down; it doesn't prove anything. That's what the (not very) "professional" did in that hack story. It's an utter failure as evidence of any sort.

What is it that you are so desperate to keep hidden? Why don't you insist that Issa fess up?

 

Not long ago when asked to explain how they spent $1,000,000 on a party the IRS said they hadn't kept receipts. Now they're saying they didn't have any backup for their computer data. Who but true believers on the left will buy this nonsense.

Now, ask yourself, what happens if the IRS audits you and you tell them the computer "lost" all your information?

 

My tax preparer makes at least two duplicates of all the paperwork, saves one and mails the other to me. If I can't find my copy (never happened yet) I'd get the preparer to run of a fresh set of copies. Maybe that's why I've never been audited -- everything is always in order.

Who does your taxes?

 

Who does my taxes is irrelevant. Who runs the IRS is totally relevant. The Democrats. The King. Oh, right. Being a responsible American I even have my personal computer backed up. The IRS? Nah! No receipts, no backups, no problem.

Now, do you know why your tax outfit keeps two copies. It's because of what the IRS will do to you if you "lose" your documentation. Now, what will you do to the IRS when they've "lost" theirs? Oh, right, nothing. They're fighting the lords battle.

 

So your argument is you are capable enough keep and maintain backups for the IRS but the IRS isnt?