CHARLES OGLETREE; Problem in Ferguson is White Police

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  1. way2convey

    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    CHARLES OGLETREE:
    http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-transcript-august-17-2014-n182641

    So, there you have it. The problem, at least as seen by Ogletree, isn't the crime in these communities, it's white police arresting the criminals and the folks in Ferguson "don't like the way young black men (plural?) are being stopped and KILLED" (by white cops).

    In one sense Ogletree's right, but he's only addressing a problem from the perspective of this one issue, which is only a consequence of a much deeper problem no one seems willing to discuss on a national level, especially Harvard types like Ogletree. His "analysis" of the problem is extremely base and shallow, if it wasn't, then is all we'd need to do is to either have an all black police force installed in Ferguson or just have white cops stand around and quit arresting BLACK criminals.

    The bottom line is blacks can't have it both ways. They can't expect to have thriving crime free communities while turning a blind eye to the reasons they don't, like education, basic civil values, two parent households & youth violence. And I say blacks can't have it both ways because neither can anyone else. So, when a black spokesman like Ogletree "compassionately justifies" looting, rioting and extreme violence by blaming "white officers who don't live there, who aren't a part of the community, who don't know the community", it reduces the debate to the shallowest of levels and only adds fuel to the racial fire. Here's a question for Mr. Olgetree and any one else who agrees with him; If (as he says) the people (the black people) want to take their community back why aren't they defending it against the rioters & the looters instead of letting the "white cops" do the dirty work?

    American is not a lawless, third world country, but when you see footage of what's happening in Ferguson you have to wonder why some people believe they're justified in trying to turn into one.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    What he did not say is that 90% of the violent crime against Black people is by other Black people, who call 911.

    Nor did he mention that 70% of all violent crime is by Black people raised by single mothers.
    That does not leave many good black candidates to choose from, either, and it explains the uprising, too.
     
  3. eleison

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    Black people kill each other every day and they blame white people.
     
  4. way2convey

    way2convey Well-Known Member

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    Correct, he didn't mention any of stats challenging blacks themselves, only white cops, which is why communities like Ferguson fester.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Half of all murders are by the 10% Black population in america, and they kill mostly Black people, too.

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  6. eleison

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    Ferguson should be treated like the south side of chicago... Cops don't regularly go into the south side. They only go in to just help pick up the dead, black bodies.
     
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    We need a politician who will address the facts and tell the truth.

    Single Mothers are raising criminal minded kids, and the institutions are now threatened, as we see so clearly in Fergy today.

    We see the government adhering to a Politically Correctness that comes from the women.

    The Institution of Marriage is under assault in regard to Gayness and No Fault Divorce.

    The Institution of Education has mothers siding with students, not teachers.

    The Cultural Institution is full of abortions, Welfare, illegitimacy, 14 years of pre-marriage teenage sex, and half the kids suffering Child Abuse because they are fatherless.

    The Military Institution is now mercenary.

    The Economic Institution suffers low wages because the Unskilled Labor Force has doubled as women work and manage families at the same time.

    The Political Institution is divided into Liberals VS Conservatives, such that nothing gets done.
     
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    So the color of the skin of the authority figure matters to them...........take back their town?

    Could you imagine the outrage if a white neighborhood, town, state or country said the same thing?

    Sure seems some double standards in what outrages people.
     
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    THAT'S CRAP! Your deadass wrong conclusion is based on facts and then OFF YOU VEER off into 'THEY HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME BUT THEMSELVES' territory. Over and over and over, year after year decade after decade. I'm SICK OF IT!! And I'm whitest of white. I get this. It is common sense.

    WHITE COPS AND WHITE 'AUTHORITARIAN' people have declared 'fair game' on young black males in this country and it's nothing new.

    6 bullets are needed to bring down a bear. Not any unarmed CITIZEN. You can bet your sweetass that every time this
    happens and that adrenaline stops pumping and the 'deed is done', "save my ass" kicks in. The stories start to take form,
    enhanced, WHAT THE PERP DID, WHAT THE PERP SAID, HOW THE PERP MOVED and finally, if none of that
    fits--CREATIVE FICTION!

    It's looking like a whole more of the later in this case.
     
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    50 Cent has been shot 9 times, still A-OK.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Be carefull and consider the Source with Charles Ogletree.
    Ogletree was one of Obama's mentors.Just as Professor Derrick Bell
    and also Reverend Wright.We're talking not just - Critical Race Theory - but
    also Wright's favorite philosophy of - Black Liberation Theology -.
    Ogletree was very active in suppressing the Video which showed a
    young Barack Obama as Harvard student as he addressed a small rally in
    support of Professor Derrick Bell who was having tenure issues.
    Probably because he was Obsessed over - Critical race Theory -.
    Study up on - Critical Race Theory - and - Black Liberation Theology - and
    then you'll see why Charles Ogletree gave a 3-part lecture at Harvard titled :
    " Understanding Obama "
     
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    It sounds like Rand Paul, and Ogletree are making arguments for segregation - blacks need to learn what it takes to organize community, including emergency and policing services. I do not think black people can do it. i look at the scenes of Haiti and Africa, and black housing projects; and it seems obvious to me.
     
  13. eleison

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    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...th-side-shootings-wound-2-20140817-story.html

    Where are the marches for these dead black kids?????

    Oh, I'm happy that you are white. You are less likely to be murdered. A black person is more likely to be killed.... not by a white racists, KKK cop.... but by another black man...

    I would like to say "deal with it".. but it looks like the black community doesn't care enough to "deal with it", but instead deflects the issue and blames the white people.

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    That's sounds like what is going on - do you have a confirming source, like a police agency memo, suggesting that?
     
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    Black people do not trust each other to build community. Nelson Mandela died knowing that educated black people would rather cry of oppression in America than help him organize a country for black people. The world leaders recognize this, but black people will probably be the last to recognize it, because of their vicarious and zealous identification with a black man being president of the historically "prejudiced," and corrupt, United States government. It is a good guess that Mandela refused to see President Obama, because of this dilemma; and world leaders are converting political slights at his expense, because of their disapproval of his inability to provide a viable solution to the specific problem of black poverty and the indirect problems that he promised to solve in his campaign speeches.

    For non-whites, it is not about eliminating the corruption by correcting the problems (changing Washington), but rather, it is about vicariously wielding the unjust political powers to oppress whites to the advantage of the elites of their demographic - poor blacks are not going to gain anything for their efforts of support for President Obama, just like poor whites do not gain anything when whites wield corrupt political power. In fact, wealthy blacks will probably not benefit either - the corrupt white bankers seem to still be winning.
     
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    White people kill each other every day and THERE ISN'T A THREAD TO BE FOUND ON THIS BOARD.
    How about the MEN who kill 'the women they love'. Never even warrants an 'honorable mention'.
     
  17. way2convey

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    Calm down there whitest of white and explain exactly why blacks like Ogeltree shouldn't look at themselves and see a problem. After all, the stats indicate they have internal problems, don't they?

    Ok, if that's really the case why aren't blacks joining the police force in droves instead of joining gangs and committing crimes? And why aren't the so called "black leaders" encouraging that to happen instead of just embracing the victim card?
     
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    I have known several Chicago police officers while living in chicago. They hinted at the situation. Nobody dares says it out loud in public....

    http://www.suntimes.com/26454580-76...mes-vary-widely-around-city.html#.U_IebWO7w-Q

    The cops in the south side are only there to help pickup the dead bodies of black people. Most people (even those that live in the southside) seems to be content with the situation.
     
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    Oh really???

    http://www.politicalforum.com/curre...kills-woman-across-street-n-georgia-town.html

    Only white men kill the women they love?????? Maybe it isn't news until somebody thinks racism is involved.
     
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    what pure and utter bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    What's stopping you from providing hard facts.
    Like in the last 5 years there were 94 unarmed blacks killed by White Cops.
    In the same time frame { 5 years } there was over 40,ooo blacks killed by
    other blacks.
    Blacks are 13% of the population.They commit 50% of the Homicides.
    90% of Black Homicides are black on black.
    Explain yer drivel about the number of people killed in the United States
    by Whites.
    I provided my facts.
     
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    That's what I figured, and I think the article you directed me to helps me understand the political negotiations - thanks.
     
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    And people wonder why whites move out of inner city cesspools. I agree with Ogletree, let the black communities police themselves. Get the white cops, white businesses, white everything out of them. See how long they last.
     
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    The two that brought him down were the last two. Shots to the arm won't stop anyone. It is harder than you think to hit someone. You don't know if you are hitting them until they do down.
     
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    Obama pastor's theology: Destroy 'the white enemy'

    “If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill gods who do not belong to the black community.”

    What the black community wants, is for God to assist in its goal of destroying “the white enemy.”





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