Obamacare cost to be 20% less than forecast, budget office says

Approval ratings for the ACA is almost exactly the same as it was during the 2012 election. Nothing has changed in public opinion measurements.

 

I don't know. I do now the Democrat plan. Raise the costs for some people and transfer the money to other people. Wait, that's the Democrat plan for everything, isn't it? Some people pay more so some people don't have to pay.

Dr. Gruber loves you guys, Tao.

 

I do not see an option that allows us to take care of them following modern conservative ideology. If we stick to the private system then the only way to cover them is to force insurance companies to cover them. But that's unfair because it forces them to take on high risk clients when they don't have enough low-risk clients to cover them. So if you're doing it that way you need to also force low-risk clients to pay for insurance.

It's the way its gotta be if you're dead set on keeping the private insurance system.

If you're open to abandoning the private insurance system and going 100% public the options become much similar. We all pay a basic flat tax (Unless you're below the poverty line) and we all get the same coverage.

Maybe private insurers could offer coverage if you want extras like if you want your own room or a comfier bed or something. But the public option seems to me the easiest way to solve this problem.

Medicare seems to work just fine. Don't see why it wouldn't work expanded across our whole population.

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickung...verage-for-pre-existing-medical-conditions/2/

Their answer is to create government supported high-risk insurance pools, operated by the states and funded with federal financial assistance for those with pre-existing medical conditions.


I told you the answers to your questions are out there.

 

Do you understand the seriousness of this issue? Do you understand its an issue people are dying over and it's an issue that needs to be solved? And your saying republicans have no solution for it. At all. If it raises our costs so what? If it fixes the issue it fixes the issue. I don't want to see Americans dying because they can't afford care. I'd prefer it lower our costs as well but preventing deaths is the number one priority. If republicans can solve this issue AND lower costs I'd be all for that. But they can't. They've offered nothing.

If you really want to lower costs AND prevent deaths then universal single payer is the only option that makes sense.

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That's single payer government healthcare...

 

Haha! OMG! You want government to run it?

This is almost too funny.

 

Also that solution has never been brought forward by GOP congressmen.

 

I can't believe he wrote that. That is classic.

 

I facepalmed so hard reading that lol

 

Sub 40% is nothing to throw a party over

more than 50% oppose

not sure why you think this makes you argument valid

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Nowhere does that state the federal government runs it..

Reading comprehension is fundamental

In fact 34 states already had this

 

It's not something to write home about. It's also not something that's going to cause anyone to lose an election.

 

Not exactly but even so, it's an incredibly narrow and highly targeted solution to a problem that the ideologues behind Obama Care never even considered.

 

So instead of legislation addressing preexisting conditions, we'll just scrap the best healthcare in the world for the progressive dream of complete control over every American's life. Can't possibly see why most people don't want it.

 

No one cares who runs it. If all it takes for you to get on board with universal single payer healthcare is for the states to run it and the fed to help fund it then (*)(*)(*)(*) lets get that started! I'm all for it! That's exactly how food stamps and other welfare assistance programs work.

 

OK, I'll quote you again:

Pretty fine line you're trying to walk there. I said you want government to run it, I never said anything about the Fed. You got caught, deal with it.

 

No. It's exactly single payer healthcare. The only difference is rather than including low-risk people it's all high-risk. Making it more expensive for the government.

 

http://www.speaker.gov/sites/speake...f_Republican_Alternative_Health_Care_plan.pdf

• Establishing Universal Access Programs to guarantee access to affordable care for those with pre-existing conditions. The GOP plan creates Universal Access Programs that expand and reform high-risk pools and reinsurance programs to guarantee that all Americans, regardless of pre-existing conditions or past illnesses, have access to affordable care – while lowering costs for all Americans.


Do you ever tire of being wrong?

 

And now he's trying to wiggle his way out of it! The abject dishonesty is astounding.

 

Precisely! The Obama crowd doesn't want a health care fix if it doesn't greatly grow the size and amount of control over individual lives for Big Centralized Government!

 

The only healthcare crisis was that constructed by progressive in college faculty rooms.

 

For future record.........THE GOVERNMENT

is federal.

FFS anything to think you win

10th amendment and all.........these are STATES ISSUES

 

It all depends on how such a program would be implemented.

 

I got no problem with that either.

 

Produce a way to cover more prexisting conditions without a mandate and I'll be all for it. I hate the mandate.

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As it's described in the article it's a single payer program.

 

So, the states don't have government? What do you call what the states have? I mean, just so we're clear on this new language you've just made up.

According to you, the states don't have "government". This is amazing. I can't believe I'm seeing this.