What's wrong with people earning more money?

well, you didn't want to debate things on content, but post cutesy graphics. I was just following your lead..

 

LOL!!!! My source was out of Seattle. Lotsa right wingers out there???

 

Stopped reading there. Nobody makes land, yet it absorbs around 20% of the economy for its owners. Land is not added to the economy. It would exist anyways. That's the most significant way the rich make their money: by having by far the most valuable land and thus sucking on the economy like a malaria infected mosquito that gained entry to the jugular.

 

Having establishments where I have to pay taxes to support their workers is not complaining. It's a tax expenditure that I don't see as justified.

You're wrong about fast food joints not being an issue - they are a big part of the minimum wage discussion here. The minimum wage law has exceptions for small establishments, and the question being debated is whether the corner McDonalds is a giant chain providing established name, menu, business practices, advertising and product or a struggling mom&pop deserving of a break.


The "Little Uncle" story is easy pickings. It was a lie. Will that stop RushBo??? I highly doubt it.

Their closure was announced in a public statement that gave other reasons for closing the restaurant, mostly related to the size and location of their business. They stated that they intend to open another location in Seattle that better meets their objectives.

The bottom line is that Seattle has always had one of the highest minimum wages, and the economy is booming.

 

Content on what? Your incorrect meme on moochers?

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Sure it was Pal, Sure

 

Thank goodness more of that tech millionaire money stays home and doesn't go to DC...erm... wait.

 

Dodge, deflect, distort.. all you need is demean & disrupt & you have a lot of leftist alliteration going for you!

 

Poncharee Koungpunchart and Wiley Frank of Little Uncle “were never interviewed for these articles,” they told the paper. They are closing one of their two locations, “but pre-emptively closing a restaurant seven years before the full effect of the law takes place seems preposterous to us.” Frank reportedly asked one conservative writer who had picked up the wage-menace red herring to “not make assumptions about our business to promote your political values.”


http://thinkprogress.org/economy/20...e-restaurant-ragnarok-not-actually-happening/

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Got it, NOTHING just like I thopught. AGAIN

Without false premises, distortions and lies WHAT does the right EVER have?

How about YOU? ONE POLICY CONSERVATIVES HAVE EVER BEEN ON THE CORRECT SIDE OF HISTORY ON IN THE US??? Should be easy!

 

Well, i'll leave you the last word.. seems like liberal 'discussions' always go like this. I've got some work to attend to, to support the hordes of moochers in the country, so i'm sure you'll understand. But if you want a real debate, you would have to address the original points, instead of doing the typical deflect, distract, & dilute the points with propaganda & distortions. But it seems debating actual points of reason are not your intention, but attacking & deflecting from them. So i will leave you with that. Pissy flame wars do not interest me.

 

Your sources are garbage.

In fact, I'll bet you think the April 1, 2015 minimum wage change will raise the minimum wage to $15/hour!!

Guess what? That's not true for ANY classification of business.


The right wing lie machine has been running on overtime. And, no, there are very few right wingers here, but apparently we do have some real idiots who supply the right wing noise machine with false information.


Fact: The minimum wage will increase to $15/hour over a period of 5 to 7 years in a number of increments, the dates depending on the size of the business. That is, those businesses with fewer than 500 employees will have longer to adjust.

Fact: Our economy is running strong and has been for years.

Fact: We've had one of the highest minimum wage limits for a long time.

 

You already lost this particular off-topic derail attempt, dig back into the cutpaste file for the next. Keep linking the same "thinkprogress" article three posts in a row, though, that goes a long way to convincing people here and bolstering your credibility. Hey Look! Bigfoot is real! Huffpuff sez:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/27/bigfoot-dna-proves-creature-exists-genetic_n_2199984.html

Oh wait, bigfoot is not real, huffpuff sez:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/03/pennsylvania-bigfoot-photos_n_4032126.html

 

Check the link. Don't be skeered.

 

What point is that Pal? PLEASE be specific rather than the usual right wing garbage with no substance!

Contrary to "Entitlement Society" Rhetoric, Over Nine-Tenths of Entitlement Benefits Go to Elderly, Disabled, or Working Households

Moreover, the vast bulk of that 9 percent goes for medical care, unemployment insurance benefits (which individuals must have a significant work history to receive), Social Security survivor benefits for the children and spouses of deceased workers, and Social Security benefits for retirees between ages 62 and 64. Seven out of the 9 percentage points go for one of these four purposes.


http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3677


ABOUT YOUR DODGE ON ONE POLICY CONSERVATIVES HAVE EVER BEEN ON THE CORRECT SIDE OF HISTORY???

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Responded AND demolished it Pal. Right wing OPINION not based on FACTS. I gave you 2 different links WITH the restaurateurs, lol

 

You don't pay taxes to Walmart. Prove me wrong.

Link me to the whining from the left about fast food joints. I'll wait. And how are 'small establishments 'exempt' from the minimum wage laws? Your rant about McD's is incoherent.

'RushBo'? Is this a deflection?

Seattle restaurants are shutting down because of the new wage law. If you disagree with me, take it up with them. I'm just the messenger.

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........yourself pal.

 

Got it, LATimes and the actual restauranteurs are lying like TP, lol

So NO, YOU CAN'T GIVE ME ONE POLICY CONSERVATIVES HAVE EVER BEEN ON THE CORRECT SIDE OF HISTORY ON POLICY EITHER? Thanks anyways

 

Quoting the actual reason for a business closing is not "pissy flame".

If you want to debate, you need to dig through the right wing lie machine to get the facts of what is actually happening.

You may have an argument from there. But, basing your debate on falsehoods is going to fail - in fact, it's going to justify some flame.

 

Now we are on to CBPP. Will we be linking that same partisan source for the next three posts too? As said previously, already posted Cato, readers can make their own minds up. I could make a list of at least FIFTEEN substantive claims of mine in this thread (hell maybe even 25-30) that you have utterly and entirely ignored in favor of cutpasting garbage over and over. Why would I want to play your silly "conservative is bad because conservative is bad" game? Destroyed that particular canard pages (and threads) ago... and of course with no response from you, just repetition of the fallacies.

 

I pay taxes to the government, which then pays Walmart employees so they can buy food and pay rent.

I did not say they were exempt. I said they are getting 7 more years to adjust - a period where there are scheduled minimum wage increases that achieve the $15 only after that period of time.

The right wing lied about the Pioneer Square restaurant - they are NOT closing due to increased minimum wage. The public statement of their closing gave the reasons. And, interviews with them stand behind those reasons.

So, you've got NOTHING on Seattle restaurant behavior.


As to McD, you're just not understanding the argument. The reason for the slower schedule for small business is that entrepreneurs need time to bring their businesses to life or to figure out how wage increases can be managed. On the other hand, a McD franchisee bought a business in a box - a business that is well advertised, highly established and supported right down to the menu, products and procedures. The corporate offices are even involved in pricing. It is a business with a world wide organization behind it. The individual franchisee is not on his/her own, even though there are issues for them to manage, obviously.

So, the debate is about whether such fast food franchises are just a part of the whole or whether there is specific entrepreneurship that needs special protection.

 

Got it, you'll stick to ad hominems since YOU can't do ANYTHING else. Shocking

ANY CON? ONE POLICY THAT THE CONS HAVE BEEN ON THE CORRECT SIDE OF HISTORY IN THE US??? LOL

 

This group of people, who call themselves "the public" are using the threat of force to take property from others who are not in said group. Statist consider these people as having some legitimate divine right to do so. Others, who haven't bought into the legitimacy mythos of this divine right, see this group of people for what they are.

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No bill of sale, I assume?

 

The govt pays Walmart nothing. Prove me wrong.

The 'adjustment' will be to lay people off.

You have your links, I have mine.

Sure I do. I posted it. Deal with it.

Don't pretend to educate me about business. Especially restaurants. Our family had one many years ago and the profit margin was very small. We had two other businesses and had to meet payrolls. As far as McD's are concerned, they have closed restaurants before.

Cut the crap. The discussion is about wages. Fast food has always paid minimum just like Walmart. So be consistent.

 

so you thnk someone who owns a construction company just owns a hammer?...get a clue....know what you are talking about before you open your mouth and insult someone....

 

As I stated, the government supports Walmart employees with my tax dollars.

You've got the right wing lie machine. Interviews with the restaurant in question proves it. Their original statement of why they are closing and their intent to reopen at another location proves it. Our booming economy proves it.

I'm tempted to tell you that if you don't like your job, then get another one. I hear that from you all the time. You just think it doesn't apply to you!! Who the heck are YOU?

But, even though YOU like that argument (when applied to others, that is) I don't agree with that. Switching to some other line of work is not easy. I DO believe in a living wage, however.

 

Too bad. Tell it to the govt.

You've got the leftie spin machine. Rife with denial and spin. So which food joint do you own? That's what I thought.

My job is fine. Stop sobbing and tell the others to stop sobbing. Leave if you don't like it and try to do better.

Tough. Learn a skill or shut up and deal with the job you have.

 

Calling something "BS" isn't an argument. Taxes are imposed by a group of people by the threat of violence. If you dispute the accuracy of this statement, please provide your evidence to the contrary.