What's the worst lie you've seen a politician try to get away with?

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  1. Nike Borzov

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    The more egregious the lie, with the most evidence against, the better.
    For some reason, I expect this thread to be full of quotes and links...
    As for me, Hillary Clinton with a straight face saying that her home email and her work email were the same for convenience. That's about the most inconvenient setup I can imagine.
    So...
     
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    Democratic president Polk trying to convince Congress that Mexico invaded us when in fact, it was Polk that sent the US Army down to the border to pick a fight.

    Polk actually got censured for that lie.
     
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    Prior to Obama's "If you like your current health care insurance and M.D., you can keep them," the most egregious lies in my lifetime from a sitting president were the ever shifting excuses G.W. Bush raised for going to war against Iraq in that they changed on seemingly a weekly basis and then LBJ's Tonkin Gulf War crapola. The deal is that a huge lie that affects millions of citizens is always the worst of all possible lies, and those three presidents Dem/Rep/Dem each told whoppers. So no one largest or greatest or worst . . . just three really bad ones.
     
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    ANYTIME Harry Reid opens his mouth...
     
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    If you like your doctor, you can keep him.

    BLATANT lie.
     
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    I totally and wholeheartedly agree.
     
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    I've kept all my doctors ... so maybe a partial lie.
     
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    "we were dead broke" hillary clinton
     
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    "not a smidgen of corruption"
     
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    The official most likely to be embarrassed by "Plan of Attack" is CIA Director George Tenet. It was Tenet, as much as anyone, who convinced Bush that the president could safely tell the public that Iraq had WMD. On Dec. 21, 2002, Tenet and Deputy Director for Intelligence John McLaughlin briefed Bush, Cheney and Rice in the Oval Office. McLaughlin set up a slide show on the agency's top-secret evidence that Saddam possessed WMD. When he was finished, there was "a brief moment of silence," writes Woodward:

    " 'Nice try,' Bush said. 'I don't think this is quite--it's not something that Joe Public would understand or would gain a lot of confidence from.'... Bush turned to Tenet. 'I've been told all this intelligence about having WMD and this is the best we've got?' From the end of one of the couches in the Oval Office, Tenet rose up, threw his arms in the air. 'It's a slam dunk!' the DCI said. Bush pressed. 'George, how confident are you?' Tenet, a basketball fan who attended as many home games of his alma mater Georgetown as possible, leaned forward and threw up his arms again. 'Don't worry, it's a slam dunk!' "

    Later, when the invasion was over, Tenet acknowledged to associates that the CIA should have stated upfront in the National Intelligence Estimate that the evidence was "not ironclad, that it did not include a smoking gun," writes Woodward. (In a revealing scene, Woodward describes Michael Hayden, the director of the National Security Agency, explaining the uncertainties of intelligence to his wife as they wash the dishes. "If it were a fact," says Hayden, "it wouldn't be intelligence."
     
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    “Transparency and the rule of law will be the touchstones of this presidency.”
     
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    I have all these shovel ready jobs.
     
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    sadam has wmd and we know where they are

    of course supply side econ was laughable
    y know
    we can cut taxes increase spending and balance the budget
    but that was not so much a lie as credulous foolishnes on regans part
     
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    Yes, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Tenet, and others whose names now have faded in my memory WANTED to go to war with Iraq and for them any excuse would do. G.W. Bush wasn't against the notion but since history would paint him as the EVIL ONE if the justification turned out to have been just dust in the wind, he wanted something absolutely solid by way of bullet proof cause; and he got snookered. But I don't give G.W. a pass. The captain of the distressed ship is always responsible even if the executive officer got drunk and took it for a joy ride on the high seas. That's just the way it is. Ditto for Obama and LBJ, Nixon and Reagan. The president is responsible.
     
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    iraqi oil will pay for the iraq war

    we will re-make the middle east----well they did do that
     
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    well as i think about it the stream of lies is wide and deep

    lbj on Vietnam progress, nixon on cambodia and watergate, reagan on iran contra, bush on taxes, clinton on any number of things, bush again an endless list, and i am sure obama as well


    what makes me think the next prez will lie to us also
     
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    "Trickle Down Economics"
    /thread
     
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    Assuming you actually are a 'medical officer'...

    ...when your hospital takes in a patient, and that patient's insurance pays for treatment, does your salary end up 'trickling down' to you?

    PS: 'trickle down' was coined by Dems. So I guess you're right: that was quite a lie.

    /thread.

    :roll:
     
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    Barack Obama's multiple promises that his would be the most transparent White House ever; followed by being the least transparent, increasing spying activity on citizens, and attempting to prosecute every whistleblower ever. Black liar will never be excused!
     
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    There are always many reasons for doing most things. Even Libs sometimes go to the loo with two objectives in mind. Ahem.

    When the Bush administration was coming out with weekly changes in rationale for the war, what I believe they were doing was trying to test which of the many real rationales they could emphasize to the media which would quell the rabid opposition to the invasion by some on the Left.

    The mistake in doing that in the way they did it, the media isn't a focus group.

    The media is your loyal opposition and when you say or do anything before them be prepared for it to be twisted and taken out of context and 'misunderestimated.'

    George W. Bush saved us from a possible nuclear Holy War by invading Iraq instead of allowing Israel to take care of the WMD possibility themselves.

    If W hadn't invaded and Israel was honestly trying to prevent a nuclear existential calamity the IDF would likely have attacked Iraq much the same way they attacked the reactors at Osirak and, more recently, in Syria.

    How would the Arab/Muslim world have reacted to an unprovoked attack by the Zionist entity on the Middle East's bad boy, the Butcher of Baghdad?

    They might have gone to war against Israel, possibly triggering a nuclear response. But even without any nukes a region wide Holy War could have easily broken out if Israel had been forced/allowed to defend herself from Saddam's insinuated WMD's.
     
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    REAGAN (11/13/86): We did not, repeat, did not trade weapons or anything else for hostages, nor will we.
     
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    "The ACA will kill jobs and wreck the economy."
    Still waiting. Stocks are up, unemployment is down, twiddling my thumbs.

    "Obama is going to take away our guns and put us in mass concentration camps."
    Well he better hurry he's only got one more year left to do it! LOL

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    Every time a politician claims to represent all Americans.
     
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    Senator Edward Kennedy, chairman of the immigration subcommittee at the time, tried to reassure the nation that passage of the new 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act would not radically alter the country's ethnic mix:

    "First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same ... Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset ... Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia ... In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think."

    "The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs."

    U.S. Senate, Subcommittee on Immigration and Naturalization of the Committee on the Judiciary, Washington, D.C., Feb. 10, 1965. pp. 1-3.
     

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