Don't tell me forced abortions do not happen in the United States. This being one of the most egregious examples I've seen, those who want to deny it goes on through coercion, threats of violence or other means, I'll be glad to post more examples of it later.
Don't tell me forced pregnancy and child birth do not happen in the United States. , those who want to deny it goes on through coercion, threats of violence or other means all sanctioned by Pro-FORCE Anti-Choicers. I see you had to try again since your first Big Expose FELL FLAT ON it's face
Not sure what this has to do with abortion legislation - this was just a case of a pedophile molesting a girl and trying to force an abortion to cover up the evidence
This seems to be an example of a felonious battery being rather dishonestly portrayed as a 'forced abortion'.
I'm sure they do - but unless you can be a pro-choicer and not denounce the pressure put on females to abort when they don't want to. Choice means choice.
I should ask you what YOUR Bruce Jenner thread had to do with forced abortion....Answer: Nothing - - - Updated - - - ... but unless you can be a Anti-Choicer and not denounce the pressure put on females to give birth when they don't want to. Choice means choice.
Wrong, it was successfully forcing a miscarriage due to a physical beating. The title of the thread is a L I E.
Maybe you should ask me that on my Bruce Jenner thread. - - - Updated - - - A miscarriage is a natural abortion and does not usually occur in the 8th month of pregnancy.
Nobody. I just said, "Don't tell me forced abortions do not happen int the United States." Although, actually I think someone did tell me that in another thread. I can't remember who.
The problem I see is that the original poster thinks forced abortion somehow reflects negatively on pro-choicers. He is apparently unable to grasp the concept of choice, in which forced birth and forced abortion are equally abhorrent to those who support women's rights.
It could be that, or it could be that I'm sick of the left framing the argument in their terms. Abortion is not a Utopia. There are many drawbacks to it, including coercion, physical and mental abuse, and post traumatic stress. Perhaps I'm sick of pro-choice advocates claiming that by enacting pro-life legislation to protect the unborn we are forcing women to get pregnant and forcing them to give birth. It also could be that the number forced abortions is far greater than children saved by pro-life laws.
Oh, so you're just giving advanced warning for no particular reason...... - - - Updated - - - """""It also could be that the number forced abortions is far greater than children saved by pro-life laws""" Could be...??? just another wild statement thrown around for effect.....silly...
If you ban abortion and a woman wants to abort but cannot legally, you ARE forcing her to give birth.
I don't think it's a utopia either. I think it's something women stress over and only choose when they really have to. I don't think anyone likes abortion, but I think it's something we must have. I agree with you that there are forced abortions, in the sense that older men/daddies/relatives impregnate younger women, or mistresses and then either physically coerce them as in this story - or mentally abuse them to the point of going to the clinic. That should not happen, but for it to end, you're going to have to open your heart and your arms to babies of incest. Right now, if the sex that caused the baby was illegal, those daddies are vested in not seeing that baby born for obvious reasons. Sometimes, it's not just forcing an abortion - sometimes they kill the female. https://tinyvictims.wordpress.com/tag/chelsea-ann-brooks/ http://www.kake.com/home/headlines/15667052.html I don't support either forced pregnancy or forced abortion. Both are travesties. Men need a way out to stop the forced abortion scenario. Do you know what the leading cause of death is in pregnant women? Murder. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_pregnant_women We have a quandary here. And, the only way to fix it is to look at it with totally impartial eyes, which is hard for most people to do. If we hold men accountable for impregnating females, we impose a great risk of murder on females where the man would be punished, or financially held to account when the baby is born. If we don't lock up statutory rapists or force men to pay child support - society ends up paying for those unwanted babes. From where I sit - there are no perfect answers.
That's what one would think, but my personal research into the issue has led me to believe otherwise...