How will FOX news spin the SC shootings?

She did not say the word government but you knew what she meant which is greater intervention by government authorities in the lives of children.

 

You seem to forget that when a guest says something on FOX that it is FOX's fault.

 

Just like the far left liberals hell bent on ridding the world of conservatives. But the liberals and their MSNBC & CNN Obama lapdogs don't see their bias, and never will admit their hate and loathing for conservatives. The pot calling the kettle black.

 

Ahhhhh, yes. The COLLECTIVE!

From Each According to Their Abilities, to Each According to Their Needs.

 

Keep in mind that if Not for Fox and Talk Radio this Country would
undoubtedly be a Banana Republic by now.It's just a matter of how long
before the Ann Coulter 3rd World hellhole rears it's head.
With Tinhorn Cops dressed like North Korean generals and cars sitting in the
streets with flat tires and bleached out sun damage.People afraid to turn around for
what they might find behind them.It's hard enough to face straight ahead and not
upchuck.

 

I think Fox will spin it as Lindsey Graham has already spun it, i.e., AS AN ATTACK ON CHRISTIANS. I couldn't stop laughing.

 

The ideological entertainment media pander to their targeted audiences, of course, whether it is Fox or MSNBC, and the naïve devotees usually mistake both spins for "truth."

One blatant ploy is to cast a gun-dependent American Angry White Guy who flaunts racist symbols and is indoctrinated at extreme rightist websites as "insane" when he acts on his hatred, whereas a Muslim who follows the same pattern is a "terrorist" without whatever connotation of aberration the imputation of insanity affords.

From the victim's perspective, the two are indistinguishable, of course, and it is they who suffer the identical consequences.

 

Well, yes, there is that. But how do we know that Obama, Al Sharpton or ROBERT BYRD! didn't set up this nice young patriot as the fall guy in a false flag operation? Huh? Answer me that.

 

That is a radically different thing than saying the government owns your children. Yes, she definitely was arguing in favor of government protecting children from their parents. You may see that as shocking, but to me that doesn't seem at all shocking. The US has very high levels of child abuse and sexual abuse. We are incredibly willing to let parents harm their children through less direct routes like denying them a proper education or socialization or access to medicine too. I do think that society has a responsibility to keep that stuff more in check. It is a tough balancing act for sure. You don't want to get too much up in everybody's business, but from what I can tell, we've gone too far the other way. I mean, imagine things from the perspective of a kid, for example, whose parents don't believe in modern medicine. If that kid dies at 10 years old from an easily preventable medical condition is that really acceptable? His parents are free to live their lives as they please, but should they really be free to impose that on a kid that has no say in it? Even if it costs his or her life? What about conspiracy nut parents who pull their kids out of school, isolate them completely so that they only interact with their parents, and then teach them all kinds of bizarre things? They turn 18 totally intellectually stunted and unable to cope with the real world. Why should kids with nutjob parents have to bear so much of the harm of that nuttiness? Etc.

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Are you being serious?

 

No, of course not but the fact that you even have to ask the question speaks to the intellectual depth and reasoned seriousness of this site.

 

Please present a news outlet that does NOT have a bias, one side or another. did I say "who cares"?

 

LOL. Ok. Yes, it does say something pretty sad about the site

 

Fox won't spin the SC shootings. In fact they'll provide more information than
any other network. They always do.

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Good point.

 

LOL. I wonder what people would be saying if it had been a black guy who did this at a white church.


Immediately after he was captured a friend of his said he was a racist who wanted a race war and he was even quoted as saying racial hate, not religion was his motivation.

Geez, open your eyes, people.

 

Yes he did AFTER HE WAS APPREHENDED.

I was clearly referring to the hours BEFORE his apprehension which is also what I was responding to.

 

Well if you bothered to watch them they are reporting it was a race based hate crime and are not spinning it.

The whole thread and your post is a massive fail

 

Um, no. For example, take this Fox segment: http://crooksandliars.com/2015/06/fox-news-blames-war-christians-attack-not

Arguing that it was an attack on Christianity instead of black people, arguing that pastors should carry guns, labeling the segment "attack on faith"... Fox is absolutely despicable. They have no shred of morality, integrity or decency, even at a time like this. But, there will always be evil, manipulative, people like Fox out there. What is really remarkable is how many Americans fall for that crap. I mean, come on guys. Use your brains.

 

You are dead wrong and proven so.

Your source is quoting them from BEFORE the suspect was caught.

As I have been saying many times it was appropriate and reasonable to speculate on many possible motives for the crime which is what they did THEN.

They also speculated about drug use and racism and other motives.

However since he has been apprehended and reports are in that he has confessed fox has consistently reported that it appears to have been a racial hate crime.

That is what I said and your link only reinforces my post it is no way refutes it

 

They also had some woman on, I think she said she was a psychologist, that claimed it was the devil and the guy next to her also claiming to be a psychologist, said it was because the shooter had no religion. They sounded more like fire and brimstone preachers than psychologists. Typical Fox tripe and pandering.

 

Where did you get the idea that we only learned about his motives after he was caught? All the stuff from his Facebook profile, the witness from the church who said he announced that he came there to kill black people because he thought they were raping white women and taking over the world, etc., all was public well before that segment aired. No legitimate news outlets were still pretending we somehow didn't know.

 

BEcause you just created a bunch of spin and fiction.

NO ONE knew about his motives until after he was apprehended he did not single out black people at the church as you claimed. You misquoted what was said. He said to people in general some crap about raping the country and taking over. He was NOT reported to have said " You BLACK PEOPLE are raping and taking over the country ". You quote deliberately added those two words which was NOT reported.

There was no evidence on face book or any other social media about specific motives for such a crime.

Speculation of his motive before the facts were known was reasonable.

Since some facts have been learned they are reporting a hate crime.

Those are facts deal with them

 

In fact, immediately after the killings, one of the survivors reported his intent and motive. He told her he wanted her to tell everyone and that was why he was letting her live.

 

Once again many motives were discussed before he was apprehended. At THAT time no one knew what the motive was.

Since he has been caught they are reporting a race based hate crime. No spin

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That is not an explanation of motive for the killings he just wanted one person to report what happened he did not tell that survivor what the motive was.

 

No, that is totally incorrect. In fact, the clip I posted from Fox even mentions that the police had already identified that it was a hate crime. They determined it was a hate crime at 1am. Just 4 hours after he started shooting. They reached that conclusion for many reasons, among them was that multiple witnesses had reported that he specifically said he was there "to shoot black people." When somebody begged him to stop he said "No, you've raped our women, and you are taking over the country ... I have to do what I have to do." Again, that was all in the news and confirmed by the police within a few hours of the shooting and many hours before Fox pretended it was about Christianity and acted like they couldn't understand why anybody thought it was about race.

 

No they had not they were investigating the crime and only mentioned that it MIGHT have been a race based hate crime.

Since he was apprehended that speculation has ended.

They did not determine it was a hate crime until after he was arrested.

That is when fox ( and many others ) were speculating as to MANY possible motives.

No witnesses made such a claim that he stated such a motive.

You are completely stating falsehoods about the timing of the facts as they were learned. All news stations speculated until later in the day when he was caught. Speculation before the facts are known is not spin.

The facts are beating you badly and you are being dishonest. The clip you posted makes mention of SOMEONE ( not specifically the police ) reporting that it was a hate crime.

Once again that is speculation and you are trying to spin it. At the time that clip was originally aired NO evidence existed of a motive and since evidence of the motive has been produced they have accurately reported it