This Kind of Mass Violence Does Not Happen in Other Advanced Countries

I wonder if he was wearing his jacket with the three white supremist patches when he bought his gun and ammo? I wonder if he drove up at the store with the Confederate flag license plate in full view?

Maybe he bought the stuff in the parking lot at a gun show. One can buy everything from a bazooka to a tommy gun at one of those things.

 

Mass shootings are a worldwide phenomenon.

Norway, Finland, Germany, Australia, Scotland have all had massacres in the last 20 years. The thing is, there is nothing that could stop most of these. No gun laws that could ever be passed in the U.S. could have stopped any of these. They are mental health issues.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/deadliest-mass-shootings_n_1688820.html

 

As you probably know, many people express fears about traveling to the US because it is percieved (somewhat accurately) as a violent and lawless place.

The crime statistics bear that out, and the constant drumbeat of casual violence in American media and video games reinforces the notion.

Of course, it's easier for someone to get a gun in the US than it is in Iraq, if one has a mind to. And there's a very powerful lobby from the munitions industry that works to keep it that way.

Sadly, munitions and weapons are the United State's number one export as well.

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The United States had more mass shootings in the last year than all these countries put together did in the last 20.

 

Is your premise that the guns compel people to be violent and without them people would be less violent? Just trying to understand your point regarding our culture. I personally would like to see the nation use science, statistics, and medical research to determine the psychology of a killer so we can prevent them from shifting from thinking about being violent to actually committing a violent act. Taking away their tool of choice, while effective in itself for preventing gun violence, does nothing to stop acts of violence. It just changes the method. How do we drill down further and stop those individuals who are often very good at hiding their evil from those close to them, regardless of whether they want to stab, bomb, shoot, drown, choke, strike or burn? We need to fix all murders, not just the ones that involve guns. By doing so, the goals of everyone who wish for less gun violence are met as well, but so too are those who want less violence all around. 2 birds, one stone.

 

Are you really this ignorant of the circumstances at which he got the gun? It was given to him. It is possible he stole the gun from his parents due to it being taken away from him, but he did not buy it.

 

In other countries they use bombs. Bombs don't discriminate.

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It was given to him.

 

Evidence of that contention.

 

Do they teach morality in public schools of those other advanced countries, or did they stop in the 70’s like our “liberals” forced us to stop, did they release their mentally ill too soon in the 80’s, “Criminally Insane: Turned Loose Too Soon?," U.S. News & World Report?

“Mass shootings in America
By decade:[4]
1900′s:0
1910′s:2
1920′s:2
1930′s:9
1940′s:8
1950′s:1
1960′s:6
1970′s:13
1980′s:32
1990′s:42
2000′s:28
2010-2013:14” http://www.globalresearch.ca/mass-shootings-in-america-a-historical-review/5355990

Take away guns and they will find a way:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Land_fire

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotypes_of_Americans#Gun-loving.2C_violent_culture

That the US is the arms merchant to the world is no secret. US munitions constitute anywhere between 35 and 50% of the world market share.

http://www.sipri.org/media/pressreleases/2015/at-march-2015

Before, WWII, we used to export cars, radio sets, washing machines, and machine tools.

Now we export bombs and fighter planes.

 

I have no problem admitting we have a gun violence problem. The answer cannot be to eliminate private ownership of guns. We can come up with many other solutions except for that one.

 

It happens here more often as the permissiveness of society grows. There is really no more right and wrong, just grey areas. During my youth we were taught right and wrong, not that every thing had grey areas. There was exactly one mass shooting during that decade. But that was decade of "Father Knows Best," Ozzie and Harriet," Davy Crockett. It was a decade when the only gun control law on the books was one had to have a permit to own a machine gun.

But it was also a decade where the mentally ill were place in hospitals, before the mentally ill had the right to walk in our midst if they were deemed they might cause harm to others. Not everything thing was peaches and creme, that decade did have a lot of other problems that were being addressed. Mass shootings was not part of the problem.

It was a decade where it was the parent's responsibility to raise their kids, not a village. It was a decade where each individual was held responsible for their actions and for their decisions. It wasn't someone else's fault if they did something wrong or made a dumb decision. Today it is the environment, their parents or lack of parents, it is everything but the individual himself who made the decision and took the action. SO what do you expect?

We today accept everything as grey, no right and wrong, we accept that hurting one's feelings is worse than the actual action of bringing physical harm to an individual or more. We live in a screwed up society that accepts anything and everything and when something bad happens, when society is all messed up that it does not know right from wrong, we blame it on guns.

Perhaps it is time for our society as a whole to take a real good look at itself and how it is affecting each and every individual. Perhaps the answer is curing what ails our society, getting at the root causes and to stop making everyone feel good, to teach each individual right and wrong and to heck with the grey areas.

 

But that is their only solution? You know there is another agenda behind 'making the country more safe'. Their solution to gun violence by criminals is to criminalise the ownership of guns!? But criminals ignore laws? Just look at what happened in Mexico when they took away their guns and it is a pit of violence and crime.

 

As opposed to inbreeding increasing chances of stuff like this?

 

Regarldless, the President claimed that other advanced countries don't have this sort of thing. THat is wrong. They may not have the same frequency, but it does happen.

 

Well... I think the point of a criminal background check is to ensure that convicted criminals are not allowed to purchase, possess or carry firearms.

 

Not excusing the crime, but there are folks making excuses such as the possible use of Rx dugs (which would never hold up as a legal defense anyway) and attempting to deny the fact that this was an obviously racist motivated attack.

 

Didn't happen on O'Reilly who referred to it in his opening dialogue as a terrorist attack motivated by racial bias. Didn't happen on the show following his or on Hannity's show I guess it must have been on some left wing bloggers site. No one on any mainstream show said it was because of the frugs most simply pointed out that because of his drug convictions he shouldn't legally have been able to get his hands on a gun.

 

I was referring to posters on this forum and I thought that it was pretty clear. Why do you desperately need to be a spokesman in defense of Fox?

 

Because you were as clear as mud, and because there are already ai least two threads started by lrft wingers tryin to make this all about fox.

 

Pay attention...it happens every day. Faux News just doesn't report it.

 

"Expert Marksman" huh? If you don't shoot regularly, you are not an "Expert Marksman".

 

"but there are folks" (which is what I said) translates to Fox commentators in your world? Okay.

 

No other western civilization has to deal with this type of uncivilized behavior either. It's unique alright.

 

You're preaching to the choir.

 

Folks, in my world, is a non specific term not limited to current company. Now had you said posters on this forum made statement x that would have been clear and specific folks is neither.