House bans GMO labeling

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    Please tell that is true.
     
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    Did you read the link?

    That's what it says there...
     
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    No, the House agricultural committee voted on it.

    read the article. :)
     
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    Wow republicans actually use the interstate commerce clause for its intended purpose and liberals go absolutely fricking ape (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    how does your reply relate to the thread in any way?
     
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    When did anyone on this thread mention the Commerce Clause, or suggest that what the House Committee did was unconstitutional?????

    The objection is to the fact that this Committee is doing the bidding of Monasanto, over the interest of the general public.

    Most developed countries require GMO labelling.

    But big agriculture has stymied efforts to inform the consumer here.

    I am not opposed to GMO's, but I am opposed to the ongoing efforts of the big food and chemical companies to prevent me from knowing what's in the food I eat.
     
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    Not shocking at all they own Congress.
     
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    Government ignoring what people want and scheming to keep truth suppressed.

    ObamaCare, ObamaTrade, Iran deal, illegal invasion, GMO labeling, etc.

    All an examples of the people's representatives not representing the people.
     
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    I say: "We shall"
    As for the post before this, it's "are" and not "an" ;)
     
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    Feelings before science is not a good way to conduct policy. Making foods more expensive to purchase is not good for the poor. Using GMO labeling by the ignorant to shun food and harm commerce is also fairly stupid.
     
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    Forget about what corrupt politicians do. They have been sold out since the first day they run as "public servants".

    Use common sense.

    You go to the grocery store, and all tomatoes look alike, the same big size, the same red color, then no doubt that they come from the same genetic modification.

    And more than genetic modification, you look at the strawberries "shining" when light reflects on them, then you know that preservatives were sprayed to "keep them fresh".

    No water can take out the "wax" sprayed on fruits and vegetables, so if you can peel off the skin, the better, otherwise you are eating extra chemicals added to your food.

    Think about this. Milk with an expiration date of more than one month screams loudly that it is full of additives to make it last that long. I miss those days when protesters claiming for labeling the additives in milk poured gallons and gallons of milk on the floor.

    The genetic modification is not much a risk as the additives in food. When you buy grapes, buy them with seeds, buy watermelon with seeds, and if you find an apple with a worm inside, do not hesitate to buy it, that you have in your hand an organic and healthy fruit, because the worm can't be wrong.
     
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    Companies change their labeling constantly. The lie that this would increase our food costs is just that a lie.
     
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    Local farmers selling at farmer's markets - What kinds of regulations do they have to comply with? Do they have to label the pesticides they used or the fertilizers?
     
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    How many people are getting sick and dying from GMO foods?

    If there are none then what is the big problem?

    Do you guys also want to know the acidity level in the dirt that every different crop is grown in?

    How about how many days of sunshine each plant has had over the last year?

    Seriously............mountains and molehills here.
     
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    I guess the right to know what we are purchasing is not in their interests.
     
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    You mean when you purchase a tomato you don't know what you are purchasing?
     
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    I have long been fascinated with people screaming over things that are "genetically modified"...

    when I'm lucky enough to find a person who is outraged when they hear that phrase, I ask them what does it mean... now I get a whole range of answers but most think it means scientists split the dna under microscopes and inserted dna from one structure into another...

    then I ask the person a followup question, what do you suppose happens when a bumblebee goes from plant to plant in nature, spreading pollen around to various plants, what happens then... and they say well the plant becomes pollinated and will reproduce... so I ask them, but the "dna" from one plant is now infused with the other plant isn't it? well yes I suppose thats true...

    so why do people freak out when a scientist speeds up the process from hundreds of years to years?

    many times, its actually got nothing to do with a microscope and splicing genes and (insert any other scary terms here)... a lot of the time its just a bunch of people in a controlled lab, who take the pollen from one plant that has the characteristics they desire, and giving it to another plant that has the characteristics they want... and they keep doing this process until the new resulting plant finally has what they want... and then they make a bunch more of those plants... so quite often, its just doing what nature does naturally, but much faster in a controlled greenhouse...

    thats all genetically modified means at the root... now the instances where they introduce chemicals not found in plants, into them, that my friend you can have all the reservations you want... because now you've got a justified reason for wondering whats going on... however thats what you really need to worry about... the worry you should have is the chemicals used on the plants while they are in the field, the plants are designed to withstand them better, but they are using increasing harsher and harsher chemicals that even after you "wash" the outside, is still showing up inside the plant... those weren't chemicals they engineered into the plant, those are chemicals they sprayed on in the growing process... be outraged over that
     
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    if I add zebra DNA to you, are you still a human?
     
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    we also want to know what mountains and molehills were used in this process.... lol

    most people assume "genetically modified" means some scientific man-made chemical was introduced into the plants... the majority of the time they just carefully pollinate plants to get characteristics they wanted... I mean you see those giant pumpkins, thats exactly what those people did... same pumpkin just over the years they kept picking seeds from bigger and bigger pumpkins and then pollinating those against each other hoping it produced and even bigger one...

    same thing with those giant store tomatoes, or the tiny cherry tomatoes in stores... that was the result of farmers planting certain crops and pollinating them that way and over the years making them larger or smaller to meet demands and create a unique tomato to their region... then selling it to capture market in another area... look at people who buy those tiny oranges, why, well because they think they are sweeter, or tiny, or whatever reason... look at the thousands of apples you can pick from... thats a result of farmers controlling natures process slowly to create something different...

    just because things are done in a lab and given a scary name, its not a different process... you don't drive past your local farmer screaming at them for daring to grow golden delight apples and how dare they use plants that were genetically modified over hundreds of years to produce that apple... a lab just does it in a couple years instead of hundreds of years... same process...
     
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    If GMO food is so good for everyone then why wouldn't they proud to label it?

    If they're so ashamed of the food they're growing then why do they grow it? Oh. That's right. They grow it because they can grow their entire crop without having to get off of their butts and crawl out of their tractors. They don't care what you eat as long as it's extremely expensive and they don't have to do any real work to produce it. That's a Republican tractor driver for you.
     
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    http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-16554357

    have him mate with something more useful to people... like spider-goats!

    spider-goat, spider-goat, doing the things a spider-goat cannnn...

    now they can manufacture silk much better than spider farms where the spiders all kill each other in competition... kinda neat to see they were able to make it only affect the milk process so they can extract the silk from the milk... I was wondering at first how it was going to come out, and I was hoping I was wrong, whew, I was...
     
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    its very easy to know if your goods are GMO-free.

    just only buy stuff that's labeled "USDA Organic" or "GMO-free Project".
     
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    why do companies that bottle water, go out of their way to somehow prove their water is different from water of others... when... its all just water...

    marketing is why people don't want to do something with negative tones attached to it... if people thought GMO was positive, they'd ALL be putting it on their products in droves just trying to capture that market... look at the wave of "natural" products society now has, despite many of the products being NO different than they were until "natural" because such a positive word and anything without it, was a lesser inferior and bad for you product?

    its got nothing to do with protecting us, its got to do with people taking a word and getting society to view it as negative... and wanting to label things negative to force them to change and adapt to the way they think foods should be...

    do you not think every tomato, apple, and other plant grown wasn't genetically modified for thousands of years? farmers going all the way back to the egyptians modified the genetics of plants... seeds from good crops or high yielding crops were prized back in the day and farmers would plant and mix them to get better and better crops over the generations... thats genetic modification... just because a company does it in a lab now using the same process but much faster, is not bad...
     

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