Congress Tells PP Doc Selling Aborted Baby Body Parts to Appear at Hearing

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    That doesn't answer the question: Late term abortions are legal....do you have a burning desire to know how many heart transplants there are???


    Why don't you google "Number of late term abortions performed" and you would find out...although what the numbers mean to a legal medical procedure , I don't know...
     
  2. FoxHastings

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    Awkward segue to avoid the following:Here's my whole post instead of the cherry picked one:

    Point out the lies in the following:

    """Any source that lies about what is being aborted , or is too stupid to have any medical/scientific facts on hand, shouldn't hold any credibility.
    No babies or infants are involved in abortion.....the use of those words is just emotional hyperbole used to sway unthinking people who can't reason , who use emotions rather than intellect.""


    Late term abortions are perfectly legal if performed for the life or health of woman or fetus. ...no reason not to record them (since they're not illegal they are not "reported".)

    IF Illegal late term abortions are performed they hardly will respond to "mandatory reporting".

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    So what? Married women have abortions.
    Here's the rest of my post instead of the cherry picked (convenient) one:

    I'm not sure why you equate abortion with pre-marital sex.....married women have abortions ( you really should learn about the topic you comment on)

    I'm not sure why you don't want treatment for STDs to be accessible and affordable (one facet of what PP does).

    And only having a kid, not abortion, leads to single parenthood...."""""







    Legally and scientifically what is aborted is a fetus. .....you can call it a kumquat but it won't be a kumquat....

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    Planned Parenthood doesn't do late term abortions.
     
  3. FoxHastings

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    All legal.........and I only see YOUR use of the term "late term"......21 weeks is not late term.


    And the numbers don't matter, it is a legal procedure.
     
  4. Flintc

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    I think that's entirely reasonable. But you will note that Planned Parenthood has NOT been accused directly of doing anything against the law. We understand that a lot of people find abortion horrifying, and would dearly love to see them shut down and everyone raise kids they bore deliberately and were fully ready to be responsible for. But that's a matter of preference, not law.

    According to the Christian News network, they performed about 327,000 abortion referrals last year. Hopefully, you understand that breitbart is a terrible source of information. I see breitbart and I think "sucker".

    Explain what? They get money from many sources. The government is one of them. Private donations are a major source. Oh, and the daily caller is worse than breitbart. PLEASE try using sources that aren't doing their damndest to poke your buttons.

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    And what he does NOT tell you is that the total number of third trimster abortions was probably less than 1000, according to the same source.
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Selling Unborn Babies: the Reality of Fetal Tissue Research
    http://clinicquotes.com/selling-unbo...ssue-research/
    Sep 7, 2012 - Selling Unborn Babies: the Reality of Fetal Tissue Research ...


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    42 U.S. Code § 289g–2 - Prohibitions regarding human fetal tissue
    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/289g-2
    U.S. federal law states that, “It shall be unlawful for any person to knowingly acquire, receive, or otherwise transfer any human fetal tissue for valuable consideration if the transfer affects interstate commerce.”
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    The moment Dr. Deborah Nucatola mentioned fees of $200 or $300 per body part she violated the law.
     
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    Why wouldnt they you just said they were legal in certain cases.... Make up your mind!
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    State Policies on Later Abortions - Guttmacher Institute
    www.guttmacher.org/statecenter/.../spib_PLTA.pdf
    Jul 1, 2015 - Although the vast majority of states restrict later-term abortions, ... that ban abortion at 20 weeks' postfertilization—well before ... Accordingly, a pregnancy of normal gestational length is considered ... 21 states impose prohibitions at fetal viability. .... The Alan Guttmacher Institute (AGI), Late-term abortions:.
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    The Reality of Late-Term Abortion Procedures | Charlotte ...
    https://www.lozierinstitute.org/the-reality-of-late-term-abortion-procedur...
    Jan 20, 2015 - Abortions performed after 20 weeks gestation, when not done by ... considered limiting late-term abortion procedures after 20 weeks gestation.
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    House Passes Pro-Life Bill Banning Late-Term Abortions ...
    www.lifenews.com/.../house-passes-pro-life-bill-banning-l...
    May 13, 2015 - The House of Representatives today approved a pro-life bill that bans abortions from after 20-weeks of pregnancy up to the day of birth.

    The numbers do matter and each of your strawman statements have been countered with fact not fiction, deflection or obfuscation. You cannot justify the abortion, their harvesting of body part for profit by P.P.
     
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    I don't believe you know what a parasite is. If you did, you wouldn't make such a silly statement about the millions of treatments provided by PP.

    I see. So to have PP not provide 300K abortions, you would risk denying 10.4 MILLION other treatments, particularly to perhaps millions of low income people. Now, understand, you haven't stopped those abortions at all - they'll just be done elsewhere, perhaps under not so good circumstances as at PP and have the women end up in the ER for some really expensive treatment ... on your dime. I really don't believe you've thought this through at all.
     
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    What is your definition of a fetus? Being legal, does not make it right or moral. Have Libs ever thanked their mothers for not aborting THEM?
     
  10. FoxHastings

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    So you claim exactly what portion of the unedited 2 hour 42 minute video is false? Was it when Senior Director of Medical Services, Dr. Deborah Nucatola was asked about body part costs and she didn't stutter, hem, or haw, in fact she talked about the need for PP to meets it's bottom line after discussing the method of aborting a late term fetus and extracting it from the mother so the important organs could be recovered intact and undamaged. So we ask again what part(s) of the nearly 3 hour video were edited or falsified?""



    What was against the law?

    There is no proof she broke any law......
     
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    They don't have the facilities...... what do I have to make up my mind about? PP doesn't do late term abortions....

    Why don't YOU know that late term abortions are legal???? WHY don't you research the subject before spouting off???
     
  12. FoxHastings

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    Elective abortion is legal up to 23 weeks........no matter what Anti-Women's rights sites like Lifenews say.

    Either way late term abortions are LEGAL....do you know what legal means? Is the word too big for you???



    I have seen NO proof that PP profits from fetus tissue......and no other person has either.....
     
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    A fetus is a developing human which becomes a baby when it's born.

    Legal is what counts against the onslaught of rabid misogynists whose goal is to take away women's rights and punish them for having sex.


    YOUR "right" and "moral" is not everyone's "right" and "moral"....I for instance think it's immoral to take away women's rights and force them to give birth....luckily I have sanity and the law on my side :)
     
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    If the left can casually refer to the unborn as parasites then I'd say the same goes for Planned Parenthood. You don't like the analogy? Stop using it.


    The answer would be to get Planned Parenthood out of the abortion business. Or for government to calculate the costs of 300,000 abortions and deduct that amount from the money granted to PP.
    It's all very simple.
     
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    """"The answer would be to get Planned Parenthood out of the abortion business""""




    Why?



    So you can whine about all those welfare kids you have to pay for? Anything to denigrate women and children??


    The cost of any abortion is cheaper than paying for a kid for 18 years....
     
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    Then what were they? Dogs, fish, carrots perhaps? Just remember, you started out that way, and how did you turn out? There's your trick question...

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    You are very naive if you don't think that there are many more like her. She is so cold and has no feelings. I hope she is not a mother.
     
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    So magically it turns into a child as soon as it hits the air? Who taught you about the birds and the bees?
     
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    A fetus is aborted.......use adult language, it means more...
     
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    What was it then? A goat or goldfish or maybe a radish? This is ridiculous. I guess people have to rationalize to themselves in order to live. I wonder if Hitler did that. DUH...
     
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    What do YOU think it was? A child, like a person, is (perhaps arbitrtarily) said to exist when it's born. Before that, it's a fetus. Before that, it's either a hope or an accident, depending.
     
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    So you cant back up your previous claims.. This happens when all you do is spin. Eventually you get dizzy ;)
     
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    Why would a citizen of 1938 Germany object to their government running railroad cars filled with Jews and other undesirables to state run death camps?


    Not all women approve of abortion by a long shot and the true denigration for them is aborting babies in their name.


    I thought we'd long ago discredited eugenics advocates? If dollars and cents are all that matter to you why not mix the mangled bodies of aborted infants with the corpses of useless retired people and sell it as Soylent Green?
     
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    Yes, magically it turns into a child in the same way that an adolescent magically turns into an adult the instant he turns 18 (or 21, or whatever). This magic is known as a legal definition.
     
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