will US use Nuke-Bomb again?

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will US use Nuke-Bomb again?

  1. If it be needed,YES.why not!!

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  2. probably yes

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  3. No!not at all!

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  1. hoorshid

    hoorshid New Member

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    US is the only country witch used Nuke-Bomb.but I think worse than that is justification for that brutality.those who even do not regret because of the wrong thing they have done, can repeat it very easy.while US took part in about all wars happened after WWII in someway,and for many times used some terrible weapons like DU or ORANGE AGENT or PHOSPHORUS GAS and etc. and never declared it mad mistake it doesn't seems combative style of some capitalists [specially owners of big weapons company and war industry] let them care about peoples life.
    so U think while US justified the usage of the Nuke-Bomb in Japan and while it has the greatest authority in UN and IAEA and while it is not going to stop producing more powerful Nuke-Bombs if there be another war will US use it again?and why?
     
  2. BoDiddly

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    The U.S. still holds a policy of being first strike capable over other nations like Russia and China, so yes it is not outside the realm of possibility for the U.S. to use its nuclear capabilities.
     
  3. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    I suspect it could be done, and that any public outrage here would lead to no changes, no justice. Our government is in total control, and we have no way to change that. We are a totalitarian state, and people's denial of that fact is actually one of the most important factors in making it so, because the government can continue to grow and crack down on us as long as people refuse to acknowledge and combat it.

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    ^ And here is the "justification" for it. Any opposition to such a bombing would not only be useless against this government, but it would be hotly contested by a large section of the population who would believe the "preemptive strike" argument that would undoubtedly be used by the government.
     
  4. BoDiddly

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    Keeping first strike capabilities isnt the same as a preemptive strike. Russia manufacturing its new subs to launch on the run isn't a preemptive strike, but to increaese Russia's chances for first strike against the U.S.
     
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    The Japanese killed upwards of 20 million Chinese civilians during the Sino-Japanese War, not including the people they killed in Vietnam, Thailand, the Philippines, Malaysia and all of the other areas they invaded.

    Also, here's a short list of the war crimes that Japan committed in the process.

    - Attacking neutral countries
    - Mass killings
    - Human experimentation.
    - Biological warfare
    - Torture
    - Executing POWs
    - Cannibalism
    - Forced labor
    - Sex slavery
    - Looting
    - Perfidy
     
  6. hoorshid

    hoorshid New Member

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    maybe.but U agree with that policy?first strike?!
    I think that is just some sort of justification to convince people that we need war!
    US needs people supports for wars it brings about!so needs medias!so needs justification to kill people!needs to produce(!!!) an imaginary enemy for Americans!
    hey Americans! U are living in a heaven and other nations are going to demolish it so lets kill them sooner!!!
    but it seems US government needs to save Americans' life inside of US!!from racist FBI or more!
    as an example while there was great endeavor to introduce a killer of about 200 non-military Iraqis as a hero and the one who saved Americans safety in American-sniper this hero[!!] was killed inside US by an American!that means a lot!
     
  7. BoDiddly

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    Yea I do. Theres a thing called The Balance of Terror, unless of course you feel man has evolved past those types of things in this new wonderful age of reason.
     
  8. hoorshid

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    O!com on!!U read history or just Google something!?all these in worse way was and is doing by US and it's ally too.so what?other nation use Nuke-Bomb against US!?
    also at that war brought about 50 people death.and always remember it all those who took part at that war are responsible of that not just those who defeated!
    but regardless to that U didn't answer my main Question. will US use Nuke-Bomb again? and by saying these U mean if it does U will support it?
     
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    I would like to see what one(or a few) would do to Russia. :dual:
     
  10. Durandal

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    There you go. Two cities of innocent civilians deserved to be nuked because of a silly laundry list of alleged Japanese human rights abuses.
     
  11. hoorshid

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    Balance of Terror?or competition in being more professional in terror!
    the problem is US or other Nuke-Bob possessor show no desire to help this balance be led to not having or using Nuke-bomb!vise versa!
    in this way human will exterminate it-self.
    also I want to know U really have thought about the meaning of Nuke-Bomb usage?
    .American B-29 bomber Enola Gay dropped a bomb, dubbed "Little Boy", on Hiroshima on August 6, 1945, in one of the closing chapters of World War II.Nearly everything around it was incinerated by a wall of heat up to 4,000 degrees Celsius -- hot enough to melt steel.what it reminds U?I remember horrible human-burning was done by ISIS in vast major and level!!to 220,000 people!!!!
    killing innocents is cheap!ha?!
     
  12. BoDiddly

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    That is the terror that balances the nuclear powers of the world. Maintaining first strike capabilities is very real in American policy towards Russia and vice versa. This is how the great powers play (and Russia is a great power) with one hand on the butt of a loaded pistol.

    Why would America be any different?
     
  13. Blinda Vaganto

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    Japan attacked America and America defended itself. How the fact that America ended this war by using most powerful weapon makes Japan victim and America agressor?
     
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    At the risk of getting my post censored...

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    We were the only country that had them.

    Actually, World War II killed a total of 62 million people.

    The Axis started the war, so they were responsible for everything that happened.

    The United States killed tens of thousands of people to end a war that had already killed tens of millions. The Japanese killed tens of millions so that they could create a colonial empire in Asia.

    Also, those are not "alleged" abuses. Those are fact.
     
  15. Durandal

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    Nukes didn't end the war, anyway. Japan was ready to surrender before they were dropped, but were holding out for conditional surrender (to keep their emperor, I believe) and to have Stalin help broker a deal. Stalin refused, the nukes were dropped and the surrender was declared. Interesting article on this subject:

    http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2011/08/07/why_did_japan_surrender/

    Why did Japan surrender?
    Sixty-six years ago, we dropped a nuclear bomb on Hiroshima. Now, some historians say that’s not what ended the war.

    ...
     
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    In other words, we dropped the bombs because Japan wanted to keep their emperor and then we let them keep their emperor?
     
  17. Durandal

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    Something like that. Reality is rarely as orderly and sensible as we might like it to be.
     
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    What's worse is advocating the far more brutal alternative that would have resulted in the loss of far more Japanese lives and property.

    I don't worry about the U.S. using a nuke again. I worry about Islamist psychopaths like the nutters in Tehran using one...
     
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    Not in the next 18 months. If a nuclear attack on the US is under way, Obama will launch an investigation, will make a decision after the next election, then head for a golf course....
     
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    ...in defense after they were attacked...

    The US will use it in defense, just like they did last time.

    Don't want to feel the nuke-bomb? Don't attack the US. Seems really easy to avoid.
     
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    What about those ones that rain bullets. What's that one called again?
     
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    I for one think, if there's a government that might act short-sightedly enough and use nukes, it will probably be the US government. Some people in Washington's inner circles won't stop at nothing.
    Teheran? How many wars has Iran started in the last hundred or so years?

    No matter who, we will most definitely hear the same idiotic war rhetoric of self-defence, evil but necessary, we had to do it, and so on.

    And for those who still think the bombs ended the war in the pacific, do some reading.
    In May '45, Truman noted in his diary that Japan was ready to surrender. Also in May, Tokio had contacted its ambassador in Moscow to contact Stalin and ask him to mediate a peace agreement between Japan and the US. American intelligence had intercepted Japanese communication and was fully aware of this.
    However, Stalin deliberately staved off the Japanese.
    There's tons of material out there, just have to invest long hours of research and reading.

    If you can't or don't want to read, might want to start here. And this is not even up-to-date. Historical research has done some very good work on this topic in the last decades.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-WnLNLe3sk
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pD2wPo0IZo


    Let's just hope nobody on this planet is crazy enough to use this weapon again.
     
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    I don't think there's any question that we would use nukes in a pinch.
     
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    Iran is a clear and present danger. I actively encourage a GOP-led USA to consider defending itself from Iran using "all necessary measures".
     
  25. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Please give a link here

    If somebody uses them on us. I think we would use them back. We have a first strike CAPABILITY but the policy is not to. Besides a first strike capability simply means we can use them before someone else does, and I don't much see how you could obviate that.

    If we ever do, we are lost. We would be giving the green light to all the other nations that have nukes to use them and this would escalate very quickly. The tipping point into nuclear winter is really much lower than everybody thinks, and the radiation effects are still not fully known or understood. If even the Israelis were ever to use all their bombs it would very probably end all life on Earth and almost certainly human life entirely
     

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