Are modern trends undermining rape and demonising men?

And some men loathe themselves believing themselves guilty of the original sin of being born with a penis.

I think this is what happens when a dad isn't in the house - the boy grows up with daddy issues due to resentment of his father's abandonment and takes comfort in his mother; he also probably gets picked on in school for being too girly since he ends up taking too much after his mom and doesn't have a man to teach him male roles, causing him to hate other men even more.

The end result is he grows up to be a self-loathing male feminist who thinks that all women are innocent snowflakes and that "men" are the root of all evil.

 

AKA a Mangina.

 

Unfortunately, this is another one of those "Do as I say, not as I do." Things. Feminists were never for equality. To prove the charge I ask where they ever once fought for men's rights lol. Never, they just used the words "rights" as a psuedo-inclusion when they were clearly aiming for privileges.

 

no no, that would NEVER happen

 

I was drunk... and not just a LITTLE bit drunk. How come I could "give consent" but had the genders been reversed, and the girl was as drunk as I was.... it would be rape.

see, you're the problem with the "it's rape" crowd. You seem to apply different standards for men than for women.


Drunk woman - it's rape
Drunk man - "why date a girl who is so deperate she'll give you a ride at 2am...."


I didn't want to "DATE" her... I wanted easy sex, and she was willing. I completely went hogging after my leads dried up at the party I was at.

 

that's the issue. I didn't "date" her (after the initial blind date ended)

I completely initiated contact the next night. I had a place to crash that night at my brother's so I didn't actually need a ride.... but the only way I could get her to come get me is to make her think I was in a stuck situation. I maybe an ********, but I always have a plan when I drink.

When I posted the original story, I was victim-blamed for being an alcoholic. However, none of the femi-nazis could correlate the fact that if a person dares accuse a drunk girl who was taken home by a sober guy that it was her fault because she's an alcoholic.... that would be wrong.

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it's rape everytime she has sex with him though... whenever she divorces him.... it will come out then

 

I didn't apply different standards (that is only what you want to see).

I posted that YOU CONSENTED, therefore it is not rape.

If a person has sex with an unconscious person it is rape, the unconscious person did NOT consent.

Being drunk, or the level of drunkenness, has nothing to do with it .

 

so just to be clear on your assertion... because you never applied it to women....


if a drunk girl initiates contact via text (like I did), gets the guy to get up out of bed, and come get her (like the female did for me), watches her puke 2 times on the way to her house, and still has sex with her.....

Is that rape?

 

FWIW - I was date-raped (by women's definition) another time too.


my then g/f came over and gave me an ambien, and a beer. I swear, Ambien is some tough crap.... I remember 5 second clips here and there the rest of the night, but I do remember us having sex.

I told her the next day, I'm glad I didn't ambien drive. I don't remember making the concience decision to have sex, so picking up my keys and trying to drive to the store would have ended badly.


Why, if I drive in that situation, is it a DUI if I'm not capable of making a decision.

 

I suggest you look up the definition of "consent". You seem to not recognize the word.

I will try one last time. If a person CONSENTS (says yes, agrees) to have sex it is not rape. If a person does NOT consent( says no or is unconscious unable to speak or agree) then it is rape.

That is a VERY DIRECT statement, clear as a bell, ....

If you don't understand it's because you don't want to understand.....nothing can change that.

 

then say it....

if a WOMAN consents, does her level of drunk matter? (as long as she's not passed out)

 

I suggest you look up the definition of "consent". You seem to not recognize the word.

I will try one last time. If a person CONSENTS (says yes, agrees) to have sex it is not rape. If a person does NOT consent( says no or is unconscious unable to speak or agree) then it is rape.

That is a VERY DIRECT statement, clear as a bell, ....

If you don't understand it's because you don't want to understand.....nothing can change that.













Now , you should look up the word "person".....you don't seem to know what it means....

 

Some instances of rape are difficult to prove. Sometimes it just comes down to one persons word against another. In many cases the victim knows the rapist as well which can further complicate things. If were a cut and dry situation tougher sentences would be a good thing. But this is not always the case.

 

The situation is not always as cut and dry as you are saying. If it were then everyone would agree with you. You seem to be arguing from the standpoint that it is a simple situation in every case. It isn't.

 

I notice how you refuse to say "woman"..... very telling.

I know I wasn't raped... but by woman's definition, though, I was..... or does that definition only apply to women?

I completely consented, chose to get myself drunk, wasn't slipped a mickey, and wasn't passed out, knew she wanted a 'relationship' and COMPLETELY made a regrettable choice in who I had sex with (she was a porker). If I'm a girl... that poor fatty that just wanted to get laid by a person they liked, would be in jail for rape and you would be singing the evils that is man and calling anyone that victim-blamed the girl, a misogynist

 

NO, I am NOT. I discussing a specific point with another poster.

It IS as cut and dried as "a person must give consent to have sex, if no consent is given then it is rape".


YES, not all accusations of rape are easy to prove.

 

You are correct on your definition about consent but this is often disputed and unclear. It usually comes down to one persons word against another which makes it a complicated situation. These cases are not a simple matter.

 

The fact that I don't use the word woman is because it applies to BOTH sexes....I said you didn't know what "person" meant and I was correct.




I suggest you look up the definition of "consent". You seem to not recognize the word.

I will try one last time. If a person CONSENTS (says yes, agrees) to have sex it is not rape. If a person does NOT consent( says no or is unconscious unable to speak or agree) then it is rape.

That is a VERY DIRECT statement, clear as a bell, ....

If you don't understand it's because you don't want to understand.....nothing can change that.












Now , you should look up the word "person".....you don't seem to know what it means....

 

That is where consent can get tricky. Some folks act like if you do not have a notarized binding contract that gives consent then it is rape. Not so.

 

No, the accusation of rape is not a simple matter. No crime is, that's why we have courts and laws and investigations and juries.

That is why women don't willy nilly accuse men of rape considering what they go through when the charge is made.

YES, some people lie about crimes but that doesn't mean all women are liars.

 

There... on record.....

because one time, a girl called me and needed a ride home, we had previously had sex (never a relationship per say, as she was cheating on her current b/f, with me)

Her girl friends had to leave and she refused to go with them. There were then some hawks circling their prey because she was ready to go. She text me and asked if I could come get her because she was feeling uncomfortable.

I did. She was trashed. I had to help her walk to my truck she was so bad. She then said she didn't want to go home, so we drove around until she finally said "why don't we just pull over and f?" so I did.


I was sober
she was drunk
she initiated
I obliged



was that rape?

 

I see you still don't know what "consent" means....










From my previous post: "If you don't understand it's because you don't want to understand.....nothing can change that."

 

lol... it must hurt you to have to admit that what I did isn't date-rape. I completely expected sex for a ride, and got it. She was drunk, and I knew she liked sex when she was drunk... so my job was to make sure I was in the right place at the right time.


Someone was having sex with her that night.... may as well be me.

 

There have been cases of a woman false claiming rape. Your black and white thinking is what is causing your confusion.

 

no such thing as a woman false claiming rape.... that's misogyny talk right there. Please report to the nearest re-education facility