Without God, life is meaningless

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  1. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The point was that 70% of all violent crime is by bastard kids grown up.
     
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    That is even worse.
    The "reform" was that single mothers had to also get a job too.
    It meant that fatherless kids saw their one parent even less.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    The Copenhagen Interpretation supports a necessary and required Observer to collapse the very first Wave Functions, or no material Universe would even exist.
    That Observe would be the Creator,.. de facto.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    ... but now we KNOW that genetics means we all have a code, which can re-create us in the future.
    So we do come back.
    Come back,... if our species has been saved from extinction, that is.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    There is no definition for Energy.
    All we know is that energy can be used to do work.
    We don't know what it is.
    We understand energy has no mass.
    It does not require Space to exist.
    Energy is outside of time.

    All we know is that a material Universe can be formed when energy transforms into Matter, which requires Space/time to exist.
     
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    So, there is a 70% chance that Bristol Palin's children will grow up and become violent?
     
  7. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    whatever .....is your god everywhere or not? I couldnt care less what wrapper its in.
    So far we know its always existed but you refuse to tell us if your cersion if god is everywhere...lol lemme guess youve deduced your curcular reference issue. I love this part.. Im waiting for your yes or no... this is where you break down and have to insult...make a strawman or say yes and prove yourself wrong.
     
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    No, we can't come back, but someone can bring us back using the code.
    Problem is deciding who to bring back, and who makes that decision :eekeyes:
     
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    What's your point?
     
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    No, God is above the earth and heavens. He is not "everywhere-" whatever that means.
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so God can't see what we're going right now?
     
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    Hell'o-ween Hubris



    During the 1972 Summer Olympic games in Munich, Palestinian terrorists attacked Israeli national athletes, prompting a stern response from the West, a historical event depicted in the engaging Steven Spielberg film "Munich" [2005].

    When I was in high school (Eastern Regional High School) in New Jersey (USA), my highly-rated cross-country long-distance running team competed thrillingly against Highland High School for the League title for four consecutive years. Highland boasted two incredible runners, while our school suffered terrible losses and injuries and somehow managed to remain competitive, capturing the League titles miraculously multiple times. Some local sports writers noted that if Eastern did not suffer the losses and injuries that it did, its head-to-head steam-engine competition with Highland would have reached state-spotlight proportions and perhaps even gained national recognition. Every time Eastern runners (including myself) performed with inspiration, Highland runners would too, and when Eastern fell, so would Highland --- it was almost spooky.

    What is it about sports that stirs the human imagination about physique enhancement? The fictional American comic book superhero Flash (DC Comics) is a superhuman whose unimaginable lightning-fast speed makes it almost impossible for villains to defeat him.

    Perhaps the Flash (DC Comics) embodies the sort of pedestrian self-image divination that reveals the religious value of folk American festivals such as Halloween.



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    Vigilantism: Shepherd's Pie



    What does God think about vigilantism? Vigilantism is the practice of self-determined citizenry-driven jurisprudence (or street justice). In times of lawlessness, corrupt cops, and wanderer-governed lands (i.e., the Old West), vigilantism seems like the only method to create law and order.

    Americans like traffic-paranoia horror films such as John Carpenter's iconic "Halloween" [1978] which presents the story of an eerie masked serial killer named Michael Myers who stalks people on Halloween Eve as a prince of darkness. Americans like justice-fantasy comic book adapted films such as Christopher Nolan's award-winning "The Dark Knight" [2008] which presents the story of the iconic urban caped crusader Batman (DC Comics) coming to terms with the tactics of street justice while tackling the sinister super-villains Joker and Two-Face, trumpeters of anarchy.

    What if we asked God (if there is one) civics-fantasy questions such as "Do you think someone like Michael Myers could redeem himself by becoming a silent hero such as Batman?" Would we expect an answer such as "Redemption is in the details of deeds and not in the evaluation of guilt."?

    In other words, how does our perception of the presence of a paternal God affect our view of justice self-determination? Such questions inspire American writers and film-makers to make comic books and horror films, two main-stays in the halls of American entertainment.



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    For you maybe, but that is not the case for myself or my family.

    Sure I do, I have family and friends. Maybe you feel you would have nothing, but do not in the least act to speak for me and claim me unhappy.

    Notice the key word in there.....FAMILY. Religion was not the be all end all of survival.
     
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    Well, I was raised Catholic (am NOT now) and was told that "god was everywhere"....


    so how do religions prove where there "god " is or isn't ??????????????????
     
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    He's making a list, and checking it twice to see who's been naughty or nice....
    Sorry, I got confused, that's the other bearded old guy :roflol:
     
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    More to the point, why do they constantly try to show proof?
    After all if the existence of a god, any god, could be proven, it would have been done thousands of years ago. But if it had been proven in the past this forum would be a very boring place :worship:
     
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    If it had been proven in the past, there is an equal likelihood that this forum (Religion and Philosophy) would not exist at all.
     
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    Nope!

    For starters matter/energy already existed at that point ergo no "creator" is proved by that claim.

    Secondly this article explains how light can be both a wave and a particle and takes away some of the "Oh, it can't be explained therefore it must be a creator" superstitions.

    http://phys.org/news/2015-03-particle.html

    The first ever photograph of light as both a particle and wave

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    [video]http://phys.org/news/2015-03-particle.html[/video]

    (Phys.org)—Light behaves both as a particle and as a wave. Since the days of Einstein, scientists have been trying to directly observe both of these aspects of light at the same time. Now, scientists at EPFL have succeeded in capturing the first-ever snapshot of this dual behavior.


    Quantum mechanics tells us that light can behave simultaneously as a particle or a wave. However, there has never been an experiment able to capture both natures of light at the same time; the closest we have come is seeing either wave or particle, but always at different times. Taking a radically different experimental approach, EPFL scientists have now been able to take the first ever snapshot of light behaving both as a wave and as a particle. The breakthrough work is published in Nature Communications.
    When UV light hits a metal surface, it causes an emission of electrons. Albert Einstein explained this "photoelectric" effect by proposing that light – thought to only be a wave – is also a stream of particles. Even though a variety of experiments have successfully observed both the particle- and wave-like behaviors of light, they have never been able to observe both at the same time.
    A research team led by Fabrizio Carbone at EPFL has now carried out an experiment with a clever twist: using electrons to image light. The researchers have captured, for the first time ever, a single snapshot of light behaving simultaneously as both a wave and a stream of particles.
     
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    "There is no definition for Energy."

    There most certainly is a definition for energy.

    http://physics.about.com/od/glossary/g/energy.htm

    Definition: Energy is the capacity of a physical system to perform work. Energy exists in several forms such as heat, kinetic or mechanical energy, light, potential energy, electrical, or other forms.
    According to the law of conservation of energy, the total energy of a system remains constant, though energy may transform into another form. Two billiard balls colliding, for example, may come to rest, with the resulting energy becoming sound and perhaps a bit of heat at the point of collision.

    The SI unit of energy is the joule (J) or newton-meter (N * m). The joule is also the SI unit of work.
     
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    So does the existence of this forum equate to proof that god does not exist?

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    That is true. It kind of fits into Werner Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle which is: Just observing something changes its character. God has always existed but without humans or other life forms with intellect to ponder God, God, in a way, doesn't exist. We have like a quantum entanglement with God. Maybe we exist to give thanks to God, the unknowable, unfathomable, and awesome entity that designed the universe? If dogs were the masters of this life, God wouldn't exist, because they can't think beyond what there immediate needs are. Our ability to imagine and contemplate God and contemplate the future is what separates us from animals.

    Disclaimer: I hate organized religion; but excuse the pontification.
     
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    If you are an Equal Opportunity promoter, then it likely would.
     
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    It would suck to cease to exist after death... at least it does certainly suck knowing it ahead of time, and feeling like time goes by faster every year. So in that sense, I envy theists. On the other hand, I'm really glad that I can define the meaning of my own life, and not see myself as some expendable pawn who is conditionally loved in some ineffable great plan that seems more like a sick game.

    Wow, that quote is painfully stupid I think... hopefully I'm missing something... It should read, "To the VERY optimistic mind, death is but the next great adventure. To the less optimistic mind, it's the last one. To the pessimistic mind, it really sucks."
     

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