Cost of Firearm Injury rate in Children

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  1. Bowerbird

    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    No it was poorly argued without link to original data. Without that link there is no way to verify the numbers

    As for your assertions about NEMJ - would like to see verification of THAT piece of defamation
     
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    They also show that children properly introduced to and taught about guns have even less injuries.
     
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    CDC WISQARS

    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
  4. Bowerbird

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    MOD EDIT - Rule 3THAT is not a link
     
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    There may be no way for YOU to verify the numbers but the rest of us are capable if using Google.
     
  6. Bowerbird

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    Hmmmm - but were those statistics from the 2000 report or the 1992 report?


    Oh! and Google rankings change depending on the country you are posting from
     
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    MOD EDIT - Rule 3 google "CDC WISQARS", it will be the first link that pops up in the search.

    MOD EDIT - Rule 3
     
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    There is a price to everything, just as there will be an eventual price your country pays for being disarmed and unable to defend itself.
     
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    Sheesh
    The idea of this country being disarmed is far far far far fetched
    It seems like any regulation what so ever, how ever small, is a tiny step away from total disarmament and national impotence
     
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    It is.

    Ask yourself why all of the legislation has been about "assault rifles" which account for about 3% of all gun deaths and gun crime.

    Gun control is not about crime, it is about disarming the nation.

    If crime were the issue the first thing this country would do is shut down the gangs in places where the murder rate is in the 50's or 60's per 100k.
     
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    Gun control may be misguided, it may have little impact on crime, it may be ill informed, or what ever else you may say....
    But regardless of whether gun control advocates want to dis arm the nation
    The incontrovertible FACT is that the nation will not be disarmed
    You know that, we all know that
    And the fact is that no other nation will consider us "defensless" based upon any law having to do with so called assault rifles. Nations may fear our military, our precision guided weapons, our technical advancement, our spy satellites, our electronic eavesdropping, or our nuclear stock pile, or our economic power ... But no foreign leader loses sleep because our people have assault rifles. And, if it ever became important for citizens to have these weapons... Lets just say they are not difficult to manufacture. I am pretty sure we could make or buy a few million rifles in a couple years... Arming the population is not so very difficult if it should become necessary

    Of course, that raises the issue that the true enemy that must concern us is our own government... And we need to be prepared at any instant to rise up in revolt.
     
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    He cited the "CDC Nonfatal Injury Report" as a source of the data. Tell me, are you really too lazy to google "CDC Nonfatal Injury Report," enter the website, and verify the numbers (a process that would have taken less than two minutes)? Who knows, maybe the data that he posted is inaccurate, but unless you check it yourself you will never know. The fact that you are unwilling to even check this shows you do not want to know the truth and would prefer living in ignorance.

    What piece of defamation? I said that the NEJM would not publish an article titled "Strokes Kill 130,000 Children Per Year" (because such a title is clearly deceiving), but they had no qualms about publishing an article titled "Preventing Gun Deaths in Children" while citing deaths in adults up to 24 years of age.
     
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    This may be true for now as it relates to conventional warfare. More to the point though there's two enemies to consider that do fear a well armed American population, terrorists and the American government. Do you think something like the massacre at the westgate shopping mall in Nairobi, Kenya could happen in the US? How about something like Tiananmen Square? Neither of those are possible in much of the US where we have a well armed populace.


    That may be true to a point but when arms are needed they are needed NOW, before you loose the ability to regroup and arm ourselves. This happened in the US in 1812, and throughout much of Europe in 1939.
     
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    Your post amounts to "Oh! Think of the children!!"
    That's an appeal to emotion.
     
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    Well maybe if the kids were given guns immediately after birth they would've had proper training. It's not that hard to understand that you point the gun in the direction of the ethnics, not your face you liberal retards.

    And on the topic of violence in schools, the answer has been in front of our faces the whole time! Don't let your children go to school! Those dam liberal harlots will just spew Obamer's political nonsense into the children's heads. Aint no blackie gonna tell my son dave-bob- Cletus jr. who he can and cant kill on the basis of self defense! And besides, aint a gun in the hands of a 6 year old done anyone no harm!

    I also don't take too kindly to those Mooslim types. Its allah this, allah that and whats with that falafel garbage they eat all day. I am yet to meet a mooslim that didn't reek of kebab and terrorism.

    In closing, we should all ban together to eliminate all minorities except the dominant Hewhite Man! Man.... by the way, no women, those dumb broads better shut and make me my dam sammich else immma beat my son. women you aint got no jobs to do other than suckin these nuts and sweepin that floor now Git!

    Make America gret again.

    Vote trump 2016
     
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    Man the left is getting really desperate.
     
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    :roflol:
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    Elegantly summed up the usual arguments from the pro-gun crowd

    But you forgot a couple

    Kan't use none of them staytistics to kornfuse us! We nose all thems kids that is gettin themselves killed is just kriminals saving the taxpayers money by not ending up in jail!

    An besides witch more people die from death every day than die from gunshots so why kan't I keep all my guns! After all I only have that one or two konvictions for doing drugs and these voices in mah heid are a telling me you is all bad people who should be a gonna die anyways!!
     
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    Case in point.
     
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    Where I live, for doing that they'd arrest you and child protective services would take custody of your children. You might get them back when you get out of prison...in 5 or 6 years.
     
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    What I find interesting is many on the left appeal to emotion regarding deaths and injuries of children by firearms with numbers above justifying their objectives and yet they support laws enabling over 1 million abortions a year for sexual convenance and lack of responsibility. No hypocrisy there, eh?
     
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    More children died from cars than guns despite all the safety regulations.
     
  22. Bowerbird

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    And what is the proportion of child deaths in relation to exposure?

    Let me indulge here and explain scientific thinking

    If we have 10 children injured from firearms out of 100 exposed to firearms for only a short period of time and compare that to 100 children injured from cars out of 10,000 children exposed to cars for significant periods - I would still say the firearms present the greatest danger

    And they are PREVENTABLE deaths - something America does not seem to care about. I mean we introduced seat belt laws here to save children - hell we banned smoking in cars with children. But then we CARE about kids - you just have to look at the child death rate in the two countries to see that
     
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    I would take a look at these. Cars kill more than guns.

    http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...-gun-fatalities-is-misleading-and-irrelevant/

    http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvacci.html

    Also remember there about 200-300 million privately own guns in the hands of roughly 80 million.
     
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    Nice.
    Now give is the real numbers, rather than the numbers you made up to make your point.

    For every gun involved in the accidental death of a child (up to the age of 19), 2.26 million were not
    For every gun involved in the accidental death of a child (up to the age of 14), 5.15 million were not.
     
  25. Bowerbird

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    :roflol: "guncite"

    Yeah! There is one really unbiased site - NOT!!!
    And it is still about exposure

    How often do children get exposed to the danger of a car as opposed to the danger of a gun? Just because few people get killed by wild animals does not make them less dangerous
     

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