Wisconsin state representatives Lisa Subeck, Chris Taylor, Melissa Sargent, and Terese Berceau have proposed a bill (LRB-3635, found here http://urbanmilwaukee.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/15-3635_1-002.pdf) to ban most semiautomatic rifles, semi-auto shotguns, and semi-auto handguns. The legislation bans "Assault Weapons". As usual the term "assault weapon" is very broadly defined. There is no grandfather clause. The firearms that would be banned: 941.285 Possession of semiautomatic assault weapons. (1) In this section: (a) “Assault weapon” means any of the following: 1. A semiautomatic rifle that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and that has any of the following: a. A pistol grip that protrudes beneath the action of the weapon. b. A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock. c. A 2nd handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand. d. A bayonet mount. e. A flash suppressor, muzzle brake, or muzzle compensator or a threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor, muzzle brake, or muzzle compensator. f. A grenade launcher. 2. A semiautomatic shotgun that has any of the following: a. A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock. b. A 2nd handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand. c. A fixed magazine capacity in excess of 7 rounds. d. The capacity to accept a detachable magazine. 3. A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and that has any of the following: a. A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock. b. A 2nd handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the nontrigger hand. c. The capacity to accept an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip. d. A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer. e. A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel, and that permits the user to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned. f. A manufactured weight of at least 50 ounces when the pistol is unloaded. Note that goes FAR beyond the AR and AK style rifles, the vast majority of rifles and shotguns are banned under this legislation. Note that a firearm has to meet only one of the conditions to be banned. Note there is no exception for 22 cal. So gun banners, are you still going to say "nobody wants to take your guns?"
I hope people in Wisconsin wake up for this one. Completely unconstitutional and will never hold water in any court.
similar to NY's laws, though it doesn't ban a barrel shroud. there are more than a few semi-auto rifles that are legal under these rules, including Ruger Mini-14 and Mini-30. and the Ares SCR
Wrong. Only the Ranch Rifle style would pass. The others, Mini-14 and Min-30, have some form of "a flash suppressor, muzzle brake, or muzzle compensator or a threaded barrel capable of accepting a flash suppressor, muzzle brake, or muzzle compensator". Most ARES models (maybe all) have a barrel extension - its threaded. And would be banned.
It's clearly the goal of the left to completely ban firearms. Anything else is a lie and if there is anything we do know is that left will lie to suit their goals and needs. The politicians involved here all appear to be from the Madison area, a liberal bastion and all strong communist/Democratic operatives.
It's like this, the gun banners want to come in here and tell us "what guns have they taken or banned" This is a misdirection to get us to take our eyes off the ball and build complacency. We all know if they could they would take all guns but they will be happy with incremental seizures. It's the very reason we should not give an inch and support all the pro gun groups out there fighting state by state and nationally to protect our rights.
Exactly correct. We have absolutely no reason to deal with them or agree to anything. The few victories they have had in left wing states have already had repercussions with extremely poor compliance. Meanwhile gun sales are through the roof and will continue to climb in the election cycle. Typical liberal thought with ignorance of the unintended consequences.
Ron, just curious. I will assume you do not have a handgun. If you could choose one what would that be especially if you could obtain a concealed carry permit vs a premises permit in NYC?
I have praise for Wisconsin State representatives Lisa Subeck, Chris Taylor, Melissa Sargent, and Terese Berea for their gun control bill and I hope Wisconsin passes it.
If they do pass it, nobody will obey it. All they are doing is showing their true intentions, putting the lie to the 30 year gun banner claim that they just want "common sense" measures and don't want to ban guns or take guns, and are further polarizing the nation. The gun banners are losing, and like poor losers they are having a tantrum and acting out.
You really have to wonder what is wrong with many politicians across this country........... Trying to produce a law that has already been decided to be against the US Constitution. Makes me wonder when we can start charging these known criminals with treason and jail them accordingly!
Apparently a premises license is one of 5 types listed for possession of a handgun and is what is called a "restrictive license" in NYC. It allows only for possession of a handgun within your home. The tyrant(s) are from NYC but I'm sure Ron could better inform you.
so assault weapons, laser guns, tanks, that kinda stuff? now one could say the 2nd support ALL military grade weapons for sure, even militarized drones, but will have to be defended in the courts "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed" .
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the bolded item above basically eliminate almost every handgun out there?
Might I suggest another option, given her obsession I'm sure Bowerbird would put you up. https://www.expedia.com/Cheap-Fligh...nHH8fL1pMxaS09t_uv2LXk8pStvsrpfX9pxoCIXrw_wcB
While I oppose "assault weapons bans" that are based upon appearance and not functionality I would point out some facts. Lacking a grandfather clause makes the law unconstitutional because it creates an ex post facto criminal offense that's prohibited by Article I, Section 10, Clause 1, of the U.S. Constitution. "Banning" of a firearm does not imply "confiscation" (taking) of the firearm because the person has numerous options that would prevent the confiscation. For example they could transfer custody of the weapon to a person outside the juridiction of the law. Apparently a fully automatic M1919 machine gun is still legal under this law as well as a 155mm howitzer and a Sherman tank. As long as I can own fully automatic firearms, field artillery pieces and tanks I'm not too concerned about stupid legislative proposals like this one that isn't even Constitutional.
I was curious about this so I checked it out and many larger caliber handguns (e.g. 9mm) weigh about a pound (i.e. between 25-35 ounces).
The idiocy of these laws is astounding , not to give any credence to the rest of the idiocy above but this stands out... "3. A semiautomatic pistol that has the capacity to accept a detachable magazine and that has any of the following: a. A folding, telescoping, or thumbhole stock." Hey stupid B who wrote this thing, if it has a stock it's not a pistol.
