Gunshot Demographics

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  1. Korben

    Korben Banned

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    All this back and forth reminded me of this. I know I found it on a forum, can't remember which though so if it's familiar well too bad it needs repeating.

    http://www.gunlaws.com/GunshotDemographics.htm

    I suggest actually checking out the link, I know few here do, they just want to complain not read. It's a simple page with a lot more info and no BS, no adds, no popups whatever.

    From the page linked above ......................

    These numbers were provided by the Delaware Criminal Justice
    Council, a government law enforcement planning and funding group.
    The council said it is seeing the same trends developing in 2009
    that are revealed in the 2008 numbers, the most recent available.

    140: Number of people shot
    Sunday: Day of week when most shootings took place
    12 to 1 a.m.: Hour when most shootings took place

    THE VICTIMS
    91%: Male
    80%: Black
    23.5%: Were 18 21 years old (the largest age group)
    53%: Would not cooperate with police to find who shot them
    78%: Have criminal histories
    65%: Have been arrested at least twice on drug charges
    37%: Have been arrested for felony weapons charges
    17%: Qualify as "career criminals"
    44%: Are suspected to be "actively involved" in drug trade
    80%: Whose first arrest came as a juvenile

    THE SUSPECTS
    97%: Minority males
    91%: Black males
    48%: Were 18 21 years old (the largest age group)
    92%: Have criminal histories
    57%: Have been arrested at least twice on drug charges
    81%: Have been arrested for weapons charges
    43%: Qualify as "career criminals"
    65%: Are suspected of being "actively involved" in drug trade
    89%: Whose first arrest came as a juvenile
    92%: Cases where victim and suspect were black
    31%: Shooting cases cleared by the Wilmington Police Department
     
  2. QLB

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    But it's Whitey's fault, the PD is really responsible and the guns made them do it. Don't you know anything? That's what the liberals say. You must live in a cave, because if you didn't know, Blacks Lives Matter. I see it on TV every day. Even Brian Williams said so, therefore it must be true. Did I mention slavery?
     
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    Definitely down to the "War on Drugs" as the site suggests.
     
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    All of my guns have apologized. Problem is that they only speak gun, which doesn't translate to written words, and only I understand them. But everything's OK. Promise.
     
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    They won't believe this because if they did they would have to admit being wrong and we all know they don't know how to say them words.Just set back and watch them twist and turn this to say the opposite.
     
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    The problem is that this particular example is repeated over and over and over where ever African Americans reside in numbers. Yet we hear that "all Black lives matter."
     
  7. Korben

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    Too much truth for any of the grabbers to refute? Does this mean the debate is over?
     
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    and gun banners haven't figured out that a gun ban would create 10X the problems that the war on drugs has caused
     
  9. Regular Joe

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    I was thinking about that earlier. If the State forces guns into the black market, they'll multiply their problems, because a black market would, by the nature of that market, bring more things like grenades and "stuff".
     
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    What should be added are the clearance rates for all those shootings. Certainly in the large urban wastelands where most of the shooting occur, I would bet only 20% of the cases have been cleared with the guilty doing any meaningful time.
     
  11. Korben

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    It's in my post with more in the link.

     
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    missed the last bit----but just because the case has been cleared does not mean the felon did any meaningful time.

    If the average gangsta was convicted of using their illegal/stolen guns using federal gun control and RICO sentencing guidelines---then each would face over 100 years behind bars for each shooting.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Suspects and suspected of are meaningless. They did it or not and were or were not. Statistical theories are worthless.
     
  14. Korben

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    Deckel and Deckel's posts are meaningless.



    PS moderators are awesome.
     
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    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps.



    If you scratch them real hard with a coin or your fingernail, they smell like hot fudge sundaes.
     
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    that is a most damning attack on most of the proposed gun restrictions liberals constantly advocate
     
  17. Deckel

    Deckel Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Perhaps, but the long and short of it is that "we suspect they were in a gang" is not the same as "they were in a gang". If they are black, or in some places brown, they will just assume that whether it is true or not.
     
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    Now that is interesting. But it should have been expected if not known.
     
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    Can you say FULL AUTO's on the street and cheap as supply will be plentiful, just like drugs.
     
  20. Korben

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    If may jump in, I'd expect that full autos would become much more prevalent among criminals then they are today. Certainly not as prevalent and cheap as drugs though. Simple fact if your going to smuggle an AK, you might as well smuggle a full auto AK. On the flip side AKs are harder to smuggle then most drugs, but not that much harder. Anyone that can smuggle pot from mexico at a profitable level can more easily and with more profit smuggle full auto AKs if semi autos became illegal. Moreover AR pattern rifles are not hard to make with the right tools, even easier is the modifications needed to make an existing AR or AK full auto. If your making an AR or already have an illegal AR then you might as well have a full auto AR.

    So yes, it's the legality of semi-autos that keep down the number of full autos in criminal hands. For why bother with the cost and risk of a full auto when a semi auto will do the job with less risk and expense. Moreover why bother smuggling firearms into the US when so many are already here, so no reason to bother smuggling full auto versions.
     

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