Jimmy and Rosalyn Carter - love almost 70 years strong.

Dispondent · Nov 15, 2015

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Jimmy Carter is one of the few Presidents who was actually more relevant post Presidency. Gotta give him credit for that.
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Not hard, considering what an awful president he was.

mertex · Nov 25, 2015

Dale Cooper said: ↑

Oh, Jeez, that's the scariest thought ever. I wouldn't put it past Hillary to win, appoint 0bama when ol' Ruthie dies, and we're (*)(*)(*)(*)ed forever!

Once again, I'm so glad I'm old and likely won't be around for the (*)(*)(*)(*) coming.

EDIT:::::::::::::::::::::I don't know what happened, but this is what I meant to quote:
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I don't know who you were actually responding to, but don't be alarmed....we made it through 8 years of the Crawford village idiot. And, under Obama, the following:

I told you so. Obama right and Europe wrong about way out of Great Recession
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ng-great-recession-eurozone-economic-blunders

What you need to be concerned about is if by some stroke of bad luck Trump gets elected........

mertex · Nov 25, 2015

Papastox said: ↑

Not to take anything away from President Carter, but the Bushes are good Christians too:

What George W. Bush did right
February 21, 2013|By Christian Caryl
Chicago Tribune

WASHINGTON Which United States president will go down in history as the greatest humanitarian to have served in the office? The Republican Herbert Hoover is often known as the "Great Humanitarian" for his work administering famine relief in post-World War I Europe (and Bolshevik Russia) in the 1920s but he did all that before he actually became president. Others might make the case for Franklin Delano Roosevelt, the Democrat who succeeded Hoover in the White House, whose New Deal initiatives relieved poverty and sickness on a grand scale within the United States.

But I'd suggest that there's one president whose contribution dwarfs all the others. Unlike Hoover, he launched his program while he was in office, and unlike FDR, he received virtually no votes in return, since most of the people who have benefited aren't U.S. citizens. In fact, there are very few Americans around who even associate him with his achievement. Who's this great humanitarian? The name might surprise you: It's George W. Bush.

I should say that I do not belong to the former president's political camp. I strongly disapproved of many of his policies. At the same time, I think it's a tragedy that the foreign policy shortcomings of the Bush administration have conspired to obscure his most positive legacy not least because it saved so many lives, but because there's so much that Americans and the rest of the world can learn from it. Both his detractors and supporters tend to view his time in office through the lens of the "war on terror" and the policies that grew out of it. By contrast, only a few Americans have ever heard of PEPFAR, the U.S. President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief, which President Bush announced in his State of the Union address in 2003.

Fast forward a decade, and in his own State of the Union address last week, President Barack Obama only briefly mentioned the goal of "realizing the promise of an AIDS-free generation" an allusion to the long-term aim of PEPFAR. Yet Obama's most recent budget proposals actually propose to cut spending on the program. That's a pity. This might have been a good moment to celebrate 10 years of an unprecedented American success in fighting one of the world's most pernicious and destructive diseases.

In his 2003 speech, Bush called upon Congress to sponsor an ambitious program to supply antiretroviral drugs and other treatments to HIV sufferers in Africa. Since then, the U.S. government has spent some $44 billion on the project (a figure that includes $7 billion contributed to the Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis, and Malaria, a multilateral organization). By way of comparison, America's most recent aircraft carrier which will join the 10 we have in service is set to cost $26.8 billion. One medical expert calls PEPFAR the "largest financial commitment of any country to global health and to treatment of any specific disease worldwide."

It's impossible to tell exactly how many lives the program has saved, though Secretary of State John Kerry recently claimed that 5 million people are alive today because of it. That's probably as good an estimate as any.

Just to give you an idea of the scale, here are some headline figures from a recent op-ed by U.S. Global AIDS coordinator Eric Goosby:

"In 2012 alone, PEPFAR directly supported nearly 5.1 million people on antiretroviral treatment a threefold increase in only four years; provided antiretroviral drugs to prevent mother-to-child transmission of HIV to nearly 750,000 pregnant women living with the disease (which allowed approximately 230,000 infants to be born without HIV); and enabled more than 46.5 million people to receive testing and counseling."

So it's safe to say this one program has been a titanic force for good over the past decade. The number of deaths from AIDS has been steadily declining over the past few years, and PEPFAR has certainly been a big help. But ask an American or a Western European if they've ever heard of the program, and they're almost certain to draw a blank. That's partly because the United States has done very little to publicize the success of PEPFAR, and partly because the Bush presidency was overshadowed by much more high-profile aspects of his foreign policy (such as the invasion of Iraq).

Indeed, Bush still enjoys high popularity ratings in Africa, where he's widely regarded as one of the continent's great benefactors. (Meanwhile, the Obama administration's proposed PEPFAR cuts have triggered protests around Africa even in Kenya, where the president's family ties have ensured him plenty of favorable coverage.)
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That's all well and good, but the difference between Bush and Carter.....Bush did something that didn't cost him anything, he passed a bill that uses our tax money to help a cause. Carter on the other hand, has physically involved himself in charitable work. Conservatives don't like the idea of "redistribution of wealth" which would apply to Bush's endeavor yet they won't give Jimmy Carter credit for all that he does.

A tireless champion for social justice
As president of the United States, Jimmy Carter was deeply committed to social justice and basic human rights. He and his wife Rosalynn left the White House in search of meaningful ways to contribute in these areas.

In addition to promoting peace and human rights through the nonprofit Carter Center in Atlanta, they lead the Jimmy & Rosalynn Carter Work Project for Habitat for Humanity International one week each year.

Habitats most famous volunteers
Jimmy and Rosalynn Carters involvement with Habitat for Humanity International began in 1984 when the former president led a work group to New York City to help renovate a six-story building with 19 families in need of decent, affordable shelter.

That experience planted the seed for the Carter Work Project, which has been an internationally recognized Habitat event ever since.

http://www.habitat.org/how/carter.aspx

Brewskier · Nov 25, 2015

Stuart Wolfe said: ↑

Gotta agree with the sentiments here. He's a great guy, loves his wife. hearts in the right place. Good for him.
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Jimmy Carter is a disgrace, both as President and after.

JIMMY CARTER: Well, that’s one area that I think I would disagree with Obama, as far as a surge that would lead to more intense bombing of Afghan villages and centers and the heavy dependence on military. I would like to see us reach out more to be accommodating and negotiate with all of the factions in Afghanistan.

I notice that Obama is also much cooler in his assessment of President Karzai than was George W. Bush and knows that he’s not been effective. He’s basically just governed right around the capital city, and his brother is well known to be one of the major drug dealers. So I think that to reach out to offer a hand of friendship or accommodation, not only to the warlords, but even to those radicals in the Taliban who are willing to negotiate, would be the best approach, than to rely exclusively on major military force.
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http://www.democracynow.org/2009/2/11/former_us_president_jimmy_carter_we

The international community’s initial goal should be the full restoration of the free movement of people and goods to and from Gaza through Israel, Egypt, and the sea. Concurrently, the United States and EU should recognize that Hamas is not just a military but also a political force. Hamas cannot be wished away, nor will it cooperate in its own demise. Only by recognizing its legitimacy as a political actor — one that represents a substantial portion of the Palestinian people — can the West begin to provide the right incentives for Hamas to lay down its weapons. Ever since the internationally monitored 2006 elections that brought Hamas to power in Palestine, the West’s approach has manifestly contributed to the opposite result.
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http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/08/04/how-to-fix-it/

I appreciate him legalizing homebrewing, however.

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