Russia to offer black-box proof their plane was not in Turkish airspace.

Turkey has claimed that the Russian warplane was shot down for entering Turkish airspace. Russia has denied this and has released a tracking video showing that it never crossed over Turkey.

The Russian warplane's "black-box" has been retrieved from the crash site, and now the Russians are going to invite international inspectors and experts to the opening of it.
Links:
https://www.rt.com/news/325158-su24-black-box-truth-turkey/
http://sputniknews.com/russia/20151208/1031440646/putin-su-24-black-box.html

Obama had been quick to support Turkey's claim of airspace violation, but, curiously, no tracking information was ever released by the United States, which has the very best satellite reconnaisance technology in the world. Now the whole world will learn the truth, whatever that may be....

 

What information the black box holds will tell the tale.

 

And the further destabilization of the Middle East in 3.... 2....

Honestly, I'm tired of constantly hearing and seeing the vile things that come out of the ME.

Children beheading babies and soldiers.

Men raping children.

Women walking into buildings with bombs strapped to their chest,

The burning alive of hundreds of people.

The chainsaws..

I hope Russia proves everyone wrong, and then I hope they vaporize Turkey for what Turkey was trying to do by articling us into this.

Btw, the 6 mile no fly zone is still over Syrian territory but Turkey magically has the ability to declare no fly zones over other countries.

 

Down with Turkey!

 

Wow, that was enlightening.

 

Prediction: even though this black-box examination will be conducted by invited international experts, if the information doesn't back the Turkey/Obama story, then the hyperliberal "news" media will release stories about how the black-box was somehow "hacked" and bogus information was substituted in it. Just wait!

 

I'm sure you're right. It'll be spun in NATO's favor regardless of the truth.

 

No, down with Erdogan!!

 

That would be quite possible since the MSN are on the US/NATO side.

 

We should pull out and let Russia do what needs to be done.

 

The problem is that the chain of evidence is broken. If the Russians are confident their planes never strayed in to Turkish airspace they obviously wouldn’t have an issue but if they know or suspect they did, they’ve had long enough to fake the data and manufacture a false black box, sealed and artificially distressed. Unfortunately it’s difficult to take any evidence from this kind of incident on face value – everyone has powerful vested interests.

 

We should also tell Turkey to go f*** itself.

They're conning us into WWIII, I say to hell with that idea and good luck Mr.Putin I hope you take care of the issue our jelly fish n chief can't.

 

Yup, agreed. Our idiot in chief is just showing us more and more how horrible he is and how disastrous his foreign policy is on a daily basis.

 

Everyone will learn the truth except the Americans and Europeans... unless they are able to get news from sources other than Washington's propaganda networks. I read the control and propaganda in the German news is even greater than that in the American news.

 

You don't think the Russians might fabricate the necessary "black box" evidence, do you? The Turks have balls. They ran the Levant for over five centuries and they don't take crap from anybody, including our good friend and ally, the former KGB officer named Putin. The USA got run out of Afghanistan and run out of Iraq. We don't have the balls to play in the Middle East League. Nor do we need to. It is not our problem. Nobody over there likes us. Nobody over there wants to be like us. Nobody over there wants us on their soil. We are going to stick our fingers into the fan belt again to see if it comes out differently this time. How smart is that?

 

This is about Putin and gas pipelines...

Turkey is sheltering 3 million Syrian refugees.. How many has Russia taken?

 

If the experts are really "experts" who look at the black boxes they will know if it has been reworked. Obviously they can't take the Russians word for it any more than they could take Turkey's word. But its hard to fake that stuff with today's technology and if anybody gets caught faking they blow their own credibility to pieces..

 

The information in the black box will tell them if the plane strayed into Turkish air space...not that it should matter considering Greece has had to chase away 7,000 Turkish planes since 2011.

The Turks were given all the information of where the planes would be and at what time by Washington. More than likely Washington was involved in the ambush. I mean let's not forget how Clinton and others were saying that a Russian plane should be shot down. All they needed was a fool like Erdogan to do it. So much for Washington fighting ISIS and its trustworthiness.

The Turkish press from what I read is panicking. For all their bravado, they are finally realizing the situation they are in. Russia is surrounding them on all sides with its advanced systems from Armenia, Crimea, Syria, the ships in the Caspian Sea and its aircraft carrier in the Meditarranean.

It might seem strange that Russia is going to such extremes, but its very existence is being threatened by the terrorists supported by Turkey not only in the Caucasus, but in the Central Asian states as well.

 

Of course they will... They'll be the one creating the data that the box will contain after all.

 

Its about pipelines.

Turkey row leaves Russia stuck with abandoned gas pipes worth billions

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-russia-turkey-pipes-idUSKBN0TM20M20151203

 

Russia always shows proof to back its words, Washington never does. We're supposed to trust them. Of course Washington's propaganda networks will then try to discredit it by saying it was fabricated, with ne'er a mention of what the world's top experts say.

 

Proof that they manufacture...

 

OK, then, where is Obama's proof? He could easily whistle up imaging videos from NORAD/DISA, and they're the best satellite reconnaisance organization on Earth. But we've seen nothing from the Obama regime using any material from them... no, all we've gotten is Obama's mouth backing Turkey up, within just a few hours of the destruction of the Russian plane. You show me images from NORAD proving that Russia violated Turkish airspace for -- what was it? -- seventeen seconds? Whatever! I'll believe NORAD, but I learned through the years to understand that Obama lies nearly every time he opens his mouth... about nearly everything!

 

Yeah, its going to be interesting to see what the black box of the plane reveals. I would trust NORAD over the Russians or the Turks but I don't trust Obama at all unless he had solid evidence provided by NORAD that the plane was in Turkish air space.

 

I do not trust the word of any Russian. Those pukes had time to make alterations to the black box or substitute another black box for the real one. Having said that I think that the Turks did a dumb assed thing by shooting down that Russian jet since it was only over Turkish territory for a few seconds. They would have been better served if the jet from the Russian Imperialist AirForce had gone deeper into Turkish territory.

Bottom line never trust a Russian and always take the position they are lying because they have always been, are, and always will be liars.