Lindsey Graham endorses Jeb Bush for president.....

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  1. Uber Lib

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    after kons have killed this country who cares what they want? this Nov. comes more change for the better when Sanders takes over
     
  2. AmericanNationalist

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    If you hadn't noticed, Obama's been in office for now 8 years. I don't think you can blame the Republican Party specifically for our current woes. The Neo-con strategy? Have at it. But the Republican Party? Not as a whole. That guilt by association tactic isn't effective with the people anymore and the Dems would be stupid to try it.
     
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    Sorry, what I meant to say was that because I was raised with manners, it would be disrespectful to be rude to a former President of the US. I forgot they don't teach manners everywhere. We are also talking about a formal meet and greet. Whoever is rude to any President in that situation has no class. Oh and trust me, I can't stand W., but he was President of this country for whatever reason and if that means holding my tongue for 5 minutes and not asking him if he's learned to read, yet, by God I'll be a good American and do it. I said nothing about respect. I said not being rude.
     
  4. MMC

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    Yeah well the bruthas around here.....aren't much up on manners with those they feel, that disrespect them. So you can see why he wont be out and about to much around here. Were hoping he will just go back to his home in Hawaii. Just sayin.
     
  5. Uber Lib

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    oh really? remember McConnell McButthurt's pledge to do everything possible to make Obama a one termer, no matter what it would do to this country in times of economic crisis?
    or, how konspiritors Paul Ryan, Kevin McKarthey and other bums huddled on the nite of Obama nomination and decided patriotism meant to oppose him 100% if elected?
    or, can you recall a single example of these skkkuzz lifting a single finger to help in 8 years? me neither
     
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  7. AmericanNationalist

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    That's not their job. Contrary to the baby's(Obama's) whining(and to MSNBC'S), The Republican Party was the minority party for 6 of these 8 years. Opposition is only natural, and it's up to the Democratic Majority to be able to win enough votes to pass legislation that the President would sign. The fault lies with the Majority Party, not the minority.

    Especially considering the Democratic Supermajority could have prioritized anything but instead prioritized the ACA, which was a major part of their defeat. Because No one wanted that crap(and no one cared) and when it was shoved in our throats(especially with a Public Option removed), the Public reacted accordingly.

    There's nothing GOP about that. That was a Democratic Failure. The Democrats would continue to ensure their demise when in 2011-2012, it chose not to build a coalition with Tea Party Republicans, but instead chose to revive the Neo-cons via Chris Christie support and the rise of McConnell and Boehner. The Democrats made the calculus that it was better to give the Neo-cons a seat, and blame everything on the incoming freshmen.

    It won Obama re-election, but it cost him the Democratic Majority. And despite much speculation about "Well, the GOP has more seats to defend", no one is inclined to Democratic "leadership", such as it has been. There's also Harry Reid rejecting bills left and right, including bills from Democratic colleagues! Obama couldn't vote "present", so Harry Reid chose to do for it him.

    That was also a part of the Republican Revolution. We couldn't vote out Harry Reid, so we chose to strip him of power. The last 8 years has seen a failed leadership domestically. When you have to blame others for your own shortcomings, then you know that your leadership leaves a lot to be desired.

    A true leader doesn't blame, he doesn't deflect. He takes all responsibility unto himself and he ensures that the people who follow him will prosper and succeed. We Americans finally are starting to reject the social class warfare scam of the Democrats, and are moving to revive our country.
     
  8. MMC

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  9. jackdog

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    sadly the polling organizations are seeming to ignore SC even though our GOP primary is only a month and a few days off. Judging from the few polls a month ago though it does not appear that the carpet bombing style advertising is helping either Bush or Rubio. Judging from my acquaintances it is still very much a 2 man race between Trump and Cruz with Trump leading
     
  10. Uber Lib

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    do you call kon behavior against Obama from before day one til past the present, normal opposition, or is it light years off the charts unAmerican BS?
     
  11. AmericanNationalist

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    Let me make it as clear as I possibly can for you: President Crybaby doesn't get to make the legislation, he doesn't get to vote on it either. All he can vote on is "yay" or "veto". The VP(The Senate Pro-Tempure) can only vote in the event that he's deciding a tiebreaker.

    Now that we've cleared the political jumbo out of the way,it's up to the Democratic Majority to get bills across the President's desk. It's up to THEM to negotiate with House Republicans. That they failed, tried to ostracize the House leadership and didn't even bother negotiating with the House Republicans isn't the fault of the Republican Party.

    Could the Republicans have tried doing something other than trying to repeal the ACA 32+ times? I'll give you that. But even on that, discussion eventually brokered into segments such as the medical tax, and that damned mandate. That, NO ONE wants. The feckless Democrats up until very recently didn't budge. Now the test comes if they can buckle down against President Crybaby and pass it with a veto-proof supermajority. They'll have the Republican votes.

    Another example is how Republicans passed bills that have reined in organizations like the EPA, who make their own spills while restricting professional oil companies. We Pennsylvanians know first hand the restrictiveness of this regime, when Obama famously declared his war on coal, and coal states like Virginia and Pennsylvania.

    The Republican Party is many things, but politically obtuse it is not. President Crybaby and his inability to meditate between the Democrats and Republicans is to blame for his own ineptitude.
     
  12. Uber Lib

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    ''trying to repeal the ACA 32+ times''
    you missed the other 30, it's 63 times now, sound normal yet?
    kons refuse to work with Obama, still, after almost 8 years, sound normal?
     
  13. MMC

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    RCP has it Trump, Cruz and Rubio.....just like NH and Iowa. That's with CBS and the Augusta Chronicle coming in with the same results.



    Republican rivals gear up ground games in South Carolina.....

    The best-funded presidential campaigns are walking neighborhoods, putting together coalitions, seeking high-profile endorsements, and lining up voters for a pivotal Feb. 20 primary among Republicans who survive contests in Iowa and New Hampshire. "South Carolina is sort of a test case to see who has built a campaign that can last," said Rick Tyler, a spokesman for Texas Sen. Ted Cruz.

    The so-called ground games of Cruz, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, John Kasich and other Republican candidates are all chasing Donald Trump, who is generally considered the front-runner in South Carolina.

    Trump also has a get-out-the-vote operation in South Carolina, but officials don't talk much about it, and opponents said they haven't seen many Trump people on the ground. The businessman's state campaign chairman is Ed McMullen, who owns a Columbia public affairs firm that specializes in data analytics for businesses, techniques they are believed to be applying to the campaign. Like a business seeking clients, the Trump campaign identifies potential voters at the businessman's huge rallies across the state and hopes to keep them engaged through the primary.

    Other campaigns are running a more traditional ground operation: organizing in specific geographical areas, targeting large constituencies among South Carolina Republicans, and seeking big endorsements from party leaders......snip~

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/01/16/republicans-2016/78844772/
     
  14. Ddyad

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    I frequently wonder if it is still possible for the GOP establishment to become even more repulsive to its own base.

    The answer is always YES - yes they can!.
     
  15. jackdog

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    yep I look at RCP also and as I said "old polls" but my gut tells me the only thing Bush and Rubio's ads have done is irritate voters. 1 every hour or so is more than enough to make a point
     
  16. MMC

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    Yeah, but they have ground games in the state. Trump is relying on his rallies.
     

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