Trump will leave the race for President

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Ronstar, Jul 21, 2015.

  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In order to stay a viable political party the democrats have to fling the doors open and let in a flood of poor dependent on the government for subsistence, doing irreparable harm to our kids future in the process. They may be OK with that, but I'm not and I don't even have any kids. This is the reason Trump resonates with the public on immigration. He has the guts to say what the politically correct say should never be said. Why? Because the Donald is there to show the shivering wet dogs in the Republican party they CAN take a stand on immigration. The immigrants who are here legally stand the most to lose if immigration continues the way it is. The more immigrants that flood in the less the legal folks can expect to make working, it's simple supply and demand. If Trump accomplishes nothing in his run for president, he will have dragged the shivering wet dogs in the Republican party back to the right.
     
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    More? Gee, he hasn't said anything stupid yet. What makes you think he will start?
     
  3. perdidochas

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    If that's the case, he will guarantee Hillary's win, just like Perot gave us Bill Clinton.

    IMHO, Trump is doing this as a favor to the Clintons. I think they have good dirt on him. Trump isn't a conservative, he's a RINO pretending to be a conservative.
     
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    Actually Trump was a Democrat around 10 years ago. Word has it Trump is close friends of the Clinton's. So you may be closer to he truth than you or most suspect.
     
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    I don't say the things that Donald Trump does because I am politically correct. It's because I don't believe the crap he spouts. No one would ever accuse me of being politically correct. I am sick and flipping tired of pseudo Christian, whiny, fear mongering Republicans and their pathetic problems. Oh, boo hoo, I might not get my kid's Ipad for Christmas because there is one too many illegal here.


    How dare those burger flippers think they deserve minimum wage, I might not get my second mortgage. The wife might not be able to get her hair done this week. How dare that woman who works forty hours a week to get herself off of welfare after leaving her abusive husband think she should pay her rent. I have to take my kids to Disney World this year, they have only been there once before.

    OH MY GOSH!!! I have to wait two more days to get a gun. I know the terrorists are coming. How dare they take away my right to bear arms. Screw the right to privacy though. Killing those terrorists is more important. I pick and choose rights to suit my purpose.

    Speaking of rights, throw out freedom of religion, if and only if the religion isn't Christianity. How dare those Gays think they should get married. Wait, couldn't we make something "separate but equal" for the gays when it comes to marriage. NO. I might have to pay more taxes when they get more benefits. I'll say it's about God, but we all know that's crap. Do other people in the world try to stop others from their rights to life and liberty based on religion? Spread hate through religion? Terrorists do. But, we can't be like them. We're white and Christian. This isn't fear, this isn't hate, this is truth.


    That is how I see the whole Republican side. Sick, morally bankrupt, assh@#$%. I believe in all rights. We have rights for a reason. I don't think people should have their guns taken away. I also don't think they should be surprised when people flip out because of all the hate and fear in this world and become criminals.They might really (*)(*)(*)(*) someone off and need it. Pick or choose a side. The same people who lament that life born and unborn is so precious are the same ones when the kid is born to a welfare mother, consider it a burden to society. Life is important or it isn't. Personally I have days when I turn on the TV and see that Trump is the mouthpiece for almost half this nation and I think abortion would be a mercy killing.

    My advice to you. Live what you spout. If you believe in freedom, pick one better than the right to bear arms as the one you champion. Personally I would rather be shot by a terrorist than have my privacy invaded. I don't want to live in a country that can foresee any event. If our forefathers knew about the Patriot act, they would be sick. Why do you think there are so many amendments protecting how much power the government has and one for guns. By all means have your guns, I really don't care honestly. When I see a school shooting, I don't blame it on guns. I blame it on the hatred that is tearing this country apart. We are shocked when a kid shoots up a school, but we are just as much bullies as our kids are. I also don't see what is wrong with more gun laws. It may save one person to have to wait, maybe a suicidal teen.

    No matter how closely the government spies it cannot stop all terrorism. It has always been and always will be until we as human beings change. FLAT OUT. Guns are not the answer. Gun control is not the answer. Basic human decency is. Taking care of our neighbor is. Flat out. That is the truth. All this hate will only beget more hate. It's common sense. It's the truth behind all the crap. Politics in the US is not for the people by the people. It is for the self and that is where the problems come in.
     
  6. Surfer Joe

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    I think that you are misunderestimating the stupidity of the typical American voter.
    The cons have been openly pandering to right-wing lunacy for several elections now and the con clown car is still led by the slimiest characters in that bunch, so I can see Trump getting the con nomination. Think of the Trump phenomenon as mob mentality.
     
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    Excellent post but, Matthew 7:6
     
  8. Professor Peabody

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    Shaking your head yet?
     
  9. carebearb

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    I agree with you, but my biggest fault is I am an eternal optimist. I always think everyone deep down is like me. If only they were slapped upside the head, they could see. I have taken my fair share of lumps to become who I am today. I once cared more about myself than anyone else. It took me to lose it all to realize that none of it was important to begin with. I was that abused single welfare mother from my post. Being a "burden on society" and seeing how they are treated taught me empathy. It taught me that how much you have is not as important as who you are. I think if I could change one mind. I can intellectually know that no one will care, but my heart makes me do it anyway. The answer is simple to everything, love. One small four letter word could change the world. Fear and hate are safer though, easier, they don't make you look at yourself in the mirror.
     
  10. Draco

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    You are proving the point of conservatives as you speak, hell I am Independent and what you say scares me.

    "I always think everyone deep down is like me."
    "If only they slapped upside the head, they could see."

    You will definitely change minds, but change independents like myself away from your thought process. People are very different and what you speak of reeks of socialism since it seems you want people to feel bad for being successful. Tying to put down people that want to get their hair done in your earlier post? Or to buy and Ipad?

    You definitely sound like you made some big mistakes in your early life, but I am glad to see it sounds like you got up on your feet. Good for you, seriously it takes a lot to pull yourself out of a bad marriage decision.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/08/19/giving-back-_n_3781505.html

    But there are articles after articles that state how conservatives give more to charity than Liberals, religion or not. I used HuffPo because of their stance.

    Again, I am happy for you new found success in life. But please remember, there are literally MILLIONS of types of people and each of them thinks their ideals are perfectly correct.

    Exactly why this country was created as it is
     
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    You have a foggy crystal ball that is gettin' senile.There is no past
    history to make your case.One thing about Donald Trump is certain.
    He's No quitter.Most New Yorkers know that.
    He's like his hair.Not waivering.
    He also proved his mettle as a student in a Military school.
    That's right ... the guy attended a Military school. He's not some
    Marco Polio Rubio who skips votes in the senate.Or big Momma's boy
    like Jeb.Or Postman's son who likes to remind us every other minute
    how he's a Gov'ner.Or some blimp who just can't seem to put down his
    next hot dog in order to catch his breath and act like some baseball umpire.
     
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    Wow, another prediction about. Trump coming from the left.
    How many have you got right so far?
     
  13. gophangover

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    Here's a few.....if Trump is the GOP nominee, he will bring out the most votes against him and the GOP in history.
    Trump was a democrat until four years ago, and showed it the other night when he defended NYC liberals.
    The majority of this country will not vote for a 1%er.
    He will gift wrap the election for the dems.
     
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    I admitted that I feel that way, because that is how I feel. I know I am wrong and still feel it. I can't apologize for how I feel. I think most people have that to some degree. I know that what you hate in others, is what you hate in yourself.

    I grew up in a VERY conservative town, a reformed church literally on every corner. I dealt with the same type of people all my life. In fact I was one of them. I believed somehow I deserved everything I had and those that had less, it was their fault somehow. I used Ipad and hairdo as an analogy of the type of thing most of the people that I know worry about. It is not that I begrudge them buying it when they earn it, it is that they will borrow, mortgage, and charge to get these things and in the next sentence talk about "the burger flippers that want a higher minimum wage". Most of these people have never worked a day in their life, they married well.Trust me I was talking to a specific type. Entitled upper middle class hypocrites. They will go to church every Sunday and wear their best dress to impress the rest. They are all the same, no different ideals here.

    My husband beat me the day after my son was born. It took me two months to dare leave him. I had nowhere to go. I ended up in a domestic violence shelter. Part of being in the shelter was applying for welfare benefits. I was 21 years old, I got my last benefit right before I turned 30. I lived in terrible apartments in what I believed to be the "ghetto". I was treated as less than a human. Talked down to and belittled when using my food stamps. My parents were divorced and had new families with young children and could never take me in. I worked or went to what is called Work First, 40 hours a week for almost 9 years. I went to a good high school, was fairly intelligent, did not come from poverty, and it took me that long to get out. If I did not have family that loved me, I probably wouldn't have. I lost part of myself during some of those years. I almost lost all of my self confidence. I became what people believed I was. I can not even imagine being born into it. It is not fun and it is not a good reason to have more kids. Women who have more kids on welfare are not out to make more money. It is a pitiful amount per child, they just don't know any better or care about themselves. The devastation you feel when your kids ask you questions about why they can't have this or that when everyone else can will almost crush a mother's soul. And you are left to wonder "what kind of mother am I". Yeah, you really want that with more kids, so you can get 40 or 50 more per month.

    I don't have an ideal. I just want people to know what it it really like to be poor. That you are not born entitled to anything. The reason that people that think the poor are entitled is because that is what they know. People assume, like I do, that others are like them. I think it is human nature. The need to feel we are somehow connected. I don't know.

    If what I do is change people from my thought process, than oh well. I realize not everyone will ever believe exactly as I do. You would think that going down in life would make you more hard, more bitter, it hasn't me, or my kids. We appreciate everything now. I learned more about what it means to earn a living for yourself on welfare than I ever did with parent's who had great jobs. I don't mean to put people down for getting their hair done, it's wonderful, I love it. I just can't sit back and say nothing when you charge it and then complain about paying taxes to take care of "the lazy of the world".

    I think the main reason that even though one or two people will agree with my posts and usually people will not agree with me. I am happier now than I was when I had more material goods. I want to make others happy because I am happy. I just sometimes go a little overboard with my zealousness in trying to change minds. The one thing that I noticed though is that everything I say to someone else that I believe is wrong is how I used to feel when I was less happy. I am not really judging others and saying I am better, I am saying, I was you, I get it. If no one else comes on here feels the same as me, life goes on.
     
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    The country won't vote for a 1%er?
    What the (*)(*)(*)(*) do you think Hillary Clinton is?
     
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    The FBI will put gift wrap in the form of shiny bracelets on the 1%er that you seem to admire so much.

    Democrats in the top 1% are off limits to any negativity. Don't forget, if it weren't for double standards, the lefties would have no standards at all.
     
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    She's not trying to buy the White House though...have you noticed Bernie has caught her? I don't like the Shrill any more than I like Trump. They're both narcissists. I agrees with the OP...I don't think Trump really want's to be POTUS...he's just playing the dumb cons like a fiddle in order to give Shrill the White House.
     
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    whatever the time frame or reason, Trump indeed will prematurely exit the race, anyone should have had seen that red flag pop up instantly when he entered. but the left thanx him very much for doing what Dems may never have been able, to twist kons into fitful knots even gumby would fear. he's done all the heavy lifting in this race which will leave at least 6 governor hopefuls in the junk heap and leave only sputtering lie filled bozos to duke it out so they can lose to Sanders.
     
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    I think Trump intends to be President, but will drop out when it finally understands he is not allowed to run his company at the same time, and will have to step down as Chairman and CEO.
     
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    Ya, I don't pay silly little conspiracy theories much attention. Your other point is stupid. Say what you want about trump, but at least he's using his own money. On the other hand, Hillary is on the Goldman Sachs pay roll. So ya, good luck with that.
     
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    Calling my point stupid is calling me stupid....when I do that I get an infraction from a mod...but then this IS a right wing forum, so they allow it.
    On your point that Trump is using his money to buy the White House,...money is what the rich call "freedom of speech"....for the rich, by the rich....and the rest of us are just peasants without a lobby voice. So the cons have succeeded in destroying the constitution....and you defend it.
     
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    I suspect that attacking the post and not the person is allowed - that was the old CIS rule. Of course, it can be taken very personally - but a bit more polite.

    Hang in there Gopha. ;-)
     
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    What a compelling account. A 22 Long in both shoulders and knees might have saved the marriage. And saved you thousands of words.

    Or not. ;-)
     
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    Your point is stupid, deal with it. Think before you post.
    You completely avoided the fact that Hillary, and most of the GOP are beholden to special interest that will have helped them get elected.
    Since you clearly haven't thought out a position, it's pretty much damned if you do, damned if you don't.

    Trump is a blowhard, but at least he's putting his own money where his mouth is, which can't be said about the rest of the candidates that will have their with hands out, waiting to trade favors for money.

    Lastly, you and your ilk should be the last to lecture about the constitution.
    Seriously, just don't do it.:rolleyes:
     
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    BS, I am very conservative and been suspended many times.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Clearly you don't understand what a blow hard is.
    A blowhard runs his mouth and does zero to back it up.
    Trump has backed up everything and is willing to take on all comers.
     

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