Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate?

Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate?

Or a perpetual insurgency war against civilians?

https://ca.video.search.yahoo.com/s...=77ea709dd407928cc813f5d0e6e9fb90&action=view

Islam’s hates democracy and the Western culture. Islam is determined to destroy the West and democracy so as to install a World Caliphate.

The West is beginning to hate Islam thanks to this hatred against them and Western ideas of a New World Order.

If we as a world cannot change our views and remove this hate from our hearts, we are bound to end in a larger numbers of small battles within a larger war.

We must find a better way to appease our objections to rapprochement. If we cannot dispel these irritants, a long and expanding jihad is inevitable. Because the jihad can only be an insurgency war, eventually the West will have to resort to the same techniques if the West is to win. This then would make the war against civilians instead against combatants. This is a coward’s war that Islam is forcing onto the world. Islam of course will blame the West for the war that the West will blame on Islam.

Both sides want to eventually have a one world government. I advocate for a one world government and think that the West and Islam should sit down and decide the rules of this one world government and to see if there is any rapprochement possible between what would be an Islamic theocracy or Caliphate, with an absentee God ruling through Sharia, and a freedom promoting Western system with a visible elected ruler.

If no rapprochement is possible then it is the Wests duty to declare a war against Islam and annihilate it if it will not reform into a peaceful world religion.

Many try to cut radical jihadists out of Islam’s general population and say they are hijacking Islam and are not really real Muslims. I suggest that Islam itself and their holy books are what are creating these extremists and that Islam has now produced a majority of extremists within its general population. If Islam does not reform its belief system and literature, the West will have no choice but to try to destroy Islam. The older world would have had to do the same with Christianity if it had maintained its own jihad that was called the Inquisition. Radical Islam is being seen as the mainstream Islam and the world cannot and will not live with such an Islam.

We are not creating any new conditions between Islam and the West. Attacks and the death of innocent non-combatants civilians in this cowardly jihad will continue if no new conditions are introduced. It is said that to continue to do the same thing and expect a different outcome, is insanity. We are at the point of insanity and that is why I suggest a new condition which would be peace negotiations that would produce a new order in the world that would embrace both Western ideologies as well as Muslim ideologies.

This may be the only way to rid the world of the hate and cowardly jihad against civilians. A form of insurgency fighting that the West would have to adopt against Islam to win the jihad.

If you do not agree, then what would you suggest to bring the West and Islam to a rapprochement?

Regards
DL

 

Rather like the politics of Elizabethan England these days: You must be subjugated to the the Anglican Church or the Catholic Church. No wonder really that Druids preferred the company of trees.

 

I see the West more like a secular state than a religious one.

I am surprised that you see it as religious. Even the U.S. --- the largest so called religious country in the world, --- is quickly turning atheist and secular.

Regards
DL

 

Perhaps people like to pretend that it is secular, but its answers to all the great existential questions are squarely grounded in Christianity whether they want to quote scripture or claim logic as their foundation. It is a fundamental blindspot of secularism--logic is just as malleable as religion, and in the west, it predisposes certain "truths" that are little more than religious in nature.

Why should a dog, a horse, a rat have life, and thou no breath at all? Oh, thou'lt come no more, Never, never, never, never, never. Pray you, undo this button. Thank you, sir.

 

Which would you prefer; A New World Order or a World Caliphate?

That's like asking if you would prefer WWI or WWII.

 

Or WWIII...

 

A one world government is impossible, it's been tried and failed every time.

 

Would you rather die from liver or pancreatic cancer ? Your question is about the same as that.

 

The US is pretty secular, unless religion has a useful purpose. American's tend to use religion to win when it suits them. It's the go- to knock out punch of choice. When all else fails call God.

 

70.6 % of Americans self identify as Christian so we are hardly secular.

 

Sorry...I'm not up on my self identifying Christian statistics. Just using my powers of observation, 75% of the "Christians" that I know are selective Christians. A selective Christian could possibly self identify as a Christian though. Okay the US isn't secular just extremely hypocritical.

 

I already sent a reply to this quote but I could not resist saying this...Your Ignorance Does Not Make Me a Troll either...it makes me self identify as a troll.

 

Sorry but the 100 Christians you know does not qualify as a statistic.

Lol

 

Sadly, I live in an island of Christian Reformed Churches. They are everywhere. LITERALLY. Everyone I have ever met goes to one of them. A lot of hypocrites, I must say. Now I will be the bigger person and self identify as fair and give you the rest of the US, but I refuse to give up my hometown. There are a few good ones walking around but I stand by my 75% as being selective.

 

I'll go with,
C. None of the Above.

Now, i'll take a revival of American Values of Freedom, Responsibility, & limited govt. But more state centered govt is what we were trying to get away from, since the Enlightenment. Why on earth would we want to return to the bondage & tyranny of a ruling elite?

 

Having a PH.D. In political science I can definetly say your hometown does not represent the US however I will agree that Christians are filled with hypocrisy. To what extent has never been studied as far as I know.

 

I'd go with 'human beings'. To the extent that christians are human beings, they suffer the same shortcomings as other human beings. They are no worse, & many aspire to much loftier, altruistic goals than other humans.

If this is a 'what is the best & worst philosophical view ever in the history of mankind' thread, i suspect christianity would rate in the top 10 in just about everyone's list, & top the charts in others'.

 

definately a caliphate. Islam demands discipline, a nwo demands hell on earth

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I would hazard that 99% of white christians in america are sttaight up frauds, nothing but pagans

 

It warms my heart whenever nonbelievers indulge in their "hypocracy" rants.

It proves that they attribute real values and standards to the faith.

 

Those are excellent questions in the opening post.

I am attempting to tackle something rather similar with this other discussion:

http://www.politicalforum.com/religion-philosophy/428114-canadians-americans-we-beast-rev.html
Canadians and Americans, are WE the Beast of Rev and....
Is the G-d of Abraham about to prove H-s supremacy over all military technology by making fools out of us?

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I am hopeful that America will become the leader of a transition into something somewhat like the freedom of religion offered to all 127 provinces of the Medo - Persian Empire by ancient King Cyrus?!

I am hopeful that the threat of rising ocean levels from the possible collapse of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet and the land based Greenland Ice Pack will force the Islamic world and the western democracies to come together to cooperate to turn deserts green........... which will tend to combat the rise in ocean level.

In theory........ the Islamic world and the west could deliberately decide to LOWER ocean levels by thirty centimeters - one foot........ in order to create a buffer zone.... so that if rapid cracking and sliding of ice were to begin we would have a little more time to crank up our efforts.

http://www.politicalforum.com/opini...saving-new-orleans-florida-rising-oceans.html

The Sahara Forest Project...and saving New Orleans and Florida from rising oceans!
Did you know that there is an Islamic prophecy that the Islamic desert regions would be turned green in the latter days?????

This topic is of special interest to me because I live about a hundred miles from the Bay of Fundy. I live five kms from the ocean on the eastern part of Nova Scotia. In my area the difference between low tide to high tide is about one meter! The land form of the Bay of Fundy has a funnelling effect on tidal waters and so parts of the Fundy have a difference of fifteen to seventeen meters between low to high tide!

The question on my mind would be if ocean levels were to rise about thirty centimeters in my part of Nova Scotia, would they rise by four or five meters along parts of the Fundy????

There are 143,000 acres of farmland taken back from the Fundy by dikes that are probably in the position of the proverbial canary in a coal mine in relation to rising ocean levels!

Every cubic meter of H2O added to the water table of nations in the Middle EAst will NOT be on top of New Orleans, Florida, Holland, Bangladesh or those 143,000 acres along the Fundy!!!!!

I felt a huge sense of relief when I first heard about The Sahara Forest Project!


https://www.facebook.com/SaharaForestProject
Sahara Forest Project

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http://www.angelfire.com/moon2/koran/index.blog?topic_id=1021110

 

Oh trust me. I get that. It is just when you are raised where I was, you learn very early that Religion is not always a good thing and that it can be used to justify a lot of things. I was just kidding about wanting my hometown. I just wanted to use "self identity" one more time. It was the first time I was having any fun in here and figured I would go for it. I think it would be extremely hard to study something like hypocrisy. It is not something most people would sign up on a study for. That is cool you have a PH.D in political science...I only have a self identified degree in B.S.

 

No, it proves that real values and standards are lacking when it comes to the life PRACTICES of many of the faithful.

 

..so, those who aspire for higher standards of morality are 'hypocrites' while those who succumb to the base nature of man are 'good'? Are they not all human beings, with similar weaknesses, shortcomings, & failures? I for one am happy that there are some people who reach for what is above them in human morality. It makes the world a better place, than with everyone resigning themselves to their base, animal nature. Why should we settle for purely animal instincts & behavior, when there is an altruistic desire in mankind to reach above themselves?

 

Well when you owe 164k for your self identified degree we can talk.

 

A majority of Americans self identify as Christians.

But, that does NOT make our nation a "Christian nation" in the political sense. Politically, we are definitely a secular nation.

The Bible plays no role in our government or its courts.

The advances shown in the creation of the USA did NOT come from Christianity, as Christianity has nothing to say about separation of powers or the rights of humans - as opposed to the duties of humans.

In fact, our founding documents draw a line between religion and government.