Will you serve Trump as President?

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Will you serve Trump as President?

Poll closed Feb 12, 2016.
  1. YES

    15 vote(s)
    46.9%
  2. NO

    10 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. I will take time before of deciding

    2 vote(s)
    6.3%
  4. I will renounce to US citizenship ...

    5 vote(s)
    15.6%
  1. rockyreagan

    rockyreagan Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if their is one politician i would "serve", Donald Trump sure as hell isn't one though.
     
  2. HailVictory

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    I wont serve that damned carpetbagger even if he tortures me. Looks like I am moving to Russia (god I never thought I would say that), or maybe Sweden.
     
  3. danarhea

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    I despise Trump, but if he is elected president, then he will be my president.
     
  4. AlpinLuke

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    I appear to be Italian because I'm Italian ... the choice to use the verb "serve" is the fruit of an ironic attitude to underline the particular [probably peculiar] way to intend politics that Trump is showing.

    Then, you know, it's a poll where I don't vote.

    But I'm curious to know the intention of whom is going to renounce to US citizenship ...
    This is not that surprising. There are Canadians who say that if Charles becomes King [so chief of state of Canada] they will renounce to Canadian citizenship.
     
  5. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

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    Almost no one will do this. A few people always threaten to "leave this country if X becomes President," and they never do. Besides, where would they go?
     
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    I'm not leaving. I am going to sit back and watch and laugh if he becomes president. I can't stand Trump and think he is a pompous jacka@#, but I have to give him credit for riling up the hate in this country and pulling people on his side. Nothing like using hate and fear to pull the wool over the ignorant masses eyes.

    If people really think that Trump cares about what he spouts they are sadly mistaken though. I bet he sits back and laughs every time he goes up a point in the polls. Trump wants to prove he is the best and can become president. Oh well, whatever, we had Reagan. He was always good for a laugh. Thankfully the President has very little power and the pendulum will swing back once again.
     
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    Forgive me, but do you not know what a politician is? Or are you one of those who think Bernie and Hillary are different somehow? Trump is definitely a blowhard, I'll grant you that! But pompous? Not as I define pompous. That would be Hillary. Jackass? Jackasses can not succeed in business. Like the tax deadbeat "Reverend" Al Sharpton. Or Kanye West, who is successful in business, is a jackass (per the current President), and who plans to run for the presidency in 2020.

    Presidents have "very little power"? Compared to a dictatorship or an absolute monarchy of the 16th century, I guess so. But they do have power to issue executive orders and deploy nuclear subs, launch FBI and ATF raids, open and close borders, and a host of other things that can affect a lot of people. It takes a lonnngggg time to impeach and remove a president for abuse of his authority.

    How many times in our history has it even been done? So I agree about the pendulum, disagree that presidents don't have a lot of power.
     
  8. carebearb

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    Trump is not pompous? He practices his pompous pout all day. He is a little man inside that needs to have stuff on the outside like money, women, and power, to make himself feel better. He brags about himself all the time. It's pompous.I define it as self important, that is Trump all the way. He also thinks it is alright to be a bully. That is all our kids need is a bully President. I could never stand him. I really don't like Republican's or Democrat's, it's all bullshi@ meant to keep us fighting with each other so we don't pay attention to them. Nothing ever really changes. They don't care about the issues. They pick a side that is better for their bottom line and jump on. Hate the rich or hate the poor, they are the cause of all the problems, is easy to sell. Makes the middle class the perpetual victim, who takes no responsibility for the living WAY beyond their means that they do. It's a lot easier to feel good about your second mortgage when there are people who actually believe that they should be able to live and eat after 40s a week work. How dare they. Burger flippers.

    Now let's go to guns. I think people should be able to protect themselves. Plain and simple. The problem is when people think that they can fix gun problems by getting more guns or having access to less. I don't mind more gun control. I figure it can't hurt, but will not fix the problem. Guns don't kill people, people do. I believe that. I do believe keeping guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill may save maybe one life, so oh well. Doesn't affect the "law abiding" citizens complaining about it. I do believe that when a mass shooting happens and people run out to get more guns it can lead to more violence. Not because people have the guns. But because of the hate and fear that is at work. I am so sick of hearing that criminals will get guns anyway, that may be true, that isn't the problem. The problem is the total division and separation that is going on in this country. The fear. The hate. We are all shocked when a kid shoots up a high school, how could it happen?
    Read some of these posts. Go on facebook for five minutes. We are bullies, raising bullies. Until people see their own part in the problem, it won't change. But you see it's much easier to blame anyone else but yourself. When kids bully those smaller and weaker than themselves, they believe they are entitled too. They listen to everything we say.

    Yes I picked on Trump. Because this is about Trump to begin with. Don't for one second believe that I swallow for one second anything any of them try to sell me. I was just reporting how I see Trump. If I do vote, I pick what I believe will be the lesser of two evils. Won't matter anyway the pendulum will keep on swimming until enough people want to do something about it. I personally will just sit back and laugh. Is this not the post that I said I will give Trump credit for selling what people want to hear. He is a genius at it. If I were a genius though, that would be enough. I would not have to prove it forever.

    I don't remember that many times that a President really abused his power. I have disliked many of them, but they didn't do anything that radical. I will admit, President's have more power than I implied, but it is not absolute. Congress is equally as powerful. The Constitution looked out for the Legislative branch because it was the largest and they didn't want another King. In my personal opinion, Trump wants to be the best. Maybe it's me. I don't think so, but maybe. Just like everything has to have his name all over it. I don't like him. So if you wonder if I know what a politician is? Someone who tells you what you want to hear, make you promises they will never keep, and make sure we keep on fighting, then yes, I know what a politician is.
     
  9. Bluespade

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    We don't serve presidents.
     
  10. gophangover

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    Clear as mud...Here's a clue...the people don't serve the president....Trump only thinks he's king.
     
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    King? That's not enough, he probably imagine to become the first American Emperor.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Out of irony, observing Obama administration at work:worship:, I begin to think that this is a kind of urban legend ...
     
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    Trump is more than a pompous jacka**. You would think that a guy that chooses to live in the midst of liberals and a man that bankrolled the campaigns of Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid would incur the wrath of the American people. Most uninformed people think that the chameleon has done a 180 degree reversal of his previous stances, but the few who know the facts are not hoodwinked.

    I don't think that there will be any pendulum swinging back and forth to the patriots / constitutionalists favor. IF we don't pick Cruz, Hitlery will win the presidency and she will put anti - gun judges on the Supreme Court (just as she and Trump have planned) and Liberty will be lost forever.
     
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    Trump thinks he's king? How about Obama, who sent his lackey to say that he would "rule" the country?


    [video=youtube;q7Nlq80DVpo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Nlq80DVpo[/video]
     
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    The President is a public servant.
     
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    Seriously...you really believe that they are going to completely outlaw guns? I don't for a second believe it. Prohibition was bad enough. Take away dangerous weapons and you will have problems. NO ONE wants all the guns. Gun control is the leftist sides attempt to fix a human problem by making it harder to get a gun. It is going to work as well as stopping gun violence with more guns. We need to fix the people that fire the guns, it is the only way anything will happen.

    My liberty is already being lost. The only fricking right anyone wants to stand up for is the 2nd Amendment. In my opinion the stupidest. If I get killed by a terrorist "sh@# happens". I am much more worried about losing the rest of my rights. What if some religion gets a bug up there butt and decides to tell me who I can and can't marry. I am not planning on getting married but who knows whose rights will be taken in the name of "God" next. That is what the freedom of religion was intended for, to impinge on others rights to be happy.

    As long as I have a gun it is quite all right that everything I say and do is taped. My right to privacy is much less important than sitting around with a bunch of guns waiting for the "bad guys" to come. They are already in your house. You let them in. What are you really afraid of? Terrorists? I am more afraid of this country turning into an outpost for a bunch of Koresh wannabes than terrorists. The only difference between Koresh and people sitting waiting for the terrorists to come, is the government really did get Koresh and the odds of a terrorist striking you is nil.

    Everyone is so worried that a gun judge will come in the Supreme Court, or an Anti or Pro Abortion Judge. This has been going on forever and as soon as one side screws up enough, the other will come in and screw up worse. Around and around we go.
     
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    In the time I've been on this board I've discovered that not one in a thousand people can make the connection between all of our constitutional Rights. The Second Amendment is like every other right in the Bill of Rights. They are all subject to the same standards; the same precedent follows every right.

    When the United States Supreme Court legislated their power from the bench, this is what they said:

    " Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited." District of Columbia v Heller

    You and I know what the original intent of the Bill of Rights was all about. "a bill of rights is what the people are entitled to against every government on earth, general or particular, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference." - Thomas Jefferson

    As goes the Second Amendment, so goes all of your Rights. If the government can limit the ammunition, the magazines, the firearm type - even they claim a power to be able to ban a certain kind of gun or force you to forfeit one Right in order to exercise another, then everything you're worried about is in danger via the power of precedent.

    With over 40,000 statutes, rules, regulations, edicts, Administrative rulings, Executive Orders, ordinances, case laws, etc. infringing on the Second Amendment, it don't matter what you believe, the truth is in the myriad of laws and the politicians dedicated to the evisceration of the Second Amendment.

    Insofar as who you might marry, consider this:

    If you have a Right to marry someone, why would you apply for a marriage license and let a government dictate to you what you can and cannot do? A license / permit is permission from a governmental entity to do that which is otherwise illegal to do. IF you have the right, you don't ask permission. If you ask permission, then you did not have the right.

    If you're expecting Donald Trump, the spoiled rich boy to help you on this one, you're sorely mistaken.
     
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    Seriously when have I ever liked Trump. Why would I need his help. I called him a pompous jacka@#. I don't get the connection. Sorry I just really don't care about the 2nd Amendment. I just don't. I never will. It does not apply to me. It is not unlimited. You won my argument for me. I also never said that it is the only right that is in jeopardy. I just said that people are all for losing other rights, but they sure want their guns. The Supreme Court does not believe that you should have a weapon with no viable use. The Supreme Court was created by the same people who wrote the bill of rights. Whether or not I can have an automatic weapon does not keep me up at night. My liberty is safe for now. Yeehaw.

    I never said that getting married was a right. I said freedom of religion is a right. I said that we have a right to pursue our own happiness. I believe that is an unalienable right. If gay marriage will make me happy than I should be able to do it. The government should be the least likely source to tell me no. The Declaration of Independence was written for a reason. Religion has no place in government. The Federal government always agreed on that. Then came the separation of church and state for the states that thought they could play their own game. Federal law trumps state law according to the Constitution. The Supreme Court ruled that banning people from getting married because of their sexual orientation is Unconstitutional. The fact that people try to use religion to justify their fear and prejudice is just icing on the cake. Just another slap in the face of the Constitution. Why does a Christian clerk not try to ban a Muslim or Jewish wedding, that is not a real wedding in the eyes of their God. It's because a person's God has no bearing on whether they get permission or not. You walk a thin line when you use religion to justify discrimination. Christians may not always be the majority and when another religion refuses a government program or something to you, tell me how free you feel. Then you will be all up in arms that they are forcing their beliefs on you. Then you will be shouting discrimination. At least you would have a gun and shoot whoever is trying to stop you from having the privilege. Now I get it. People are starting to realize that they have felt entitled and superior for too long. When the crap hits the fan and karma bites them, they will be ready. Must have treated many people bad to need a fully automatic weapon though.
     
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    Dude, you miss the entire point. Nobody said you were for Trump. Did you bother reading my post?

    If the Second Amendment falls, so do the rights you claim to cherish. The Bill of Rights is all one bill. Doesn't matter if you agree with one of them or not. If one is in jeopardy, all of them are.
     
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    When and how has President Obama served you? In particular, not in a general and indirect way, I mean ...
     
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    The nature of Obama's public service can be viewed on youtube. Search 'bull cow service'. Loop for more clarity.
     
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    As an elected official elected by the people of the USA, he should serve the people, not the other way around. Just sayin'.
     
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    I thought you asked me if I needed help from and him. By the way not a dude. I never said that they were not all in jeopardy. I just said the second is the least important to me. I don't get why it is the only one people seem to care about. I don't get it. I did read your post that is why I totally knocked down your argument against marriage.

    I personally believe that the second will not completely fall. It is too risky and stupid. Thomas Jefferson wanted to make the Constitution stronger. Hamilton knew that circumstances would change in the future that would require "necessary and proper" changes. I don't think all of the rights should be unlimited. Freedom of speech can be abused as well as freedom of the press. Speech and press are not natural rights because one is not born able to talk or write. If I thought for one minute that they made a law that would stop someone able to buy a firearm legally from protecting themself, I would be up in arms. I don't see anything unreasonable. I just see people who are trying to keep people safe using an easy way out instead of healing the hatred that causes the violence in the first place. The other rights will not go because even though the 2nd is changed, it is not gone. It doesn't matter who wins. The Justices will be different but no one is stupid enough to set off the bomb of obliterating that right. It would be catastrophic and disastrous for the economy. I would be worried if I thought it would really happen.

    That is why people do not agree in this country. I can never prove my rights are more important. It is opinion. I could prove that trying to ban gay marriage was unconstitutional because it is a fact. That is purposely trampling on rights. That is saying that one group should be allowed permission to marry and another shouldn't because it was against religion. It is discrimination. Not trying to limit what weapons people can get so really dangerous weapons are banned. That comes from a good place. Someone really believes it is right. They are not trying to take away rights they are trying to keep people safe. The same could be said for the spying and privacy laws being trampled on. Some people believe they are doing the right thing. To me it is creepy and unsettling and invasive, but that is me. I am so boring that I don't worry about it. I fly under the radar.

    We could argue my right is more important than yours all day. The day they get rid of the second all together or make it so one can no longer protect his family. I will join you. I am just sick of people picking and choosing and stepping on one while crying about another.
     

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