About the Confederate flag...

it most certainly was fought over slavery.

 

Of course, and that does NOT mean that most other Black people don't realize they are misguided... as many Southern White Americans are.

That history, heritage and symbols of the South are what they are. Black people pasting their faces on that in the 21st century, in no way changes that.

 

I was responding to the poster that claimed a white man would never give a black man a confederate flag. I proved him wrong.

 

What I like about the Confederate flag is how people get so upset about it. I think I will buy some of them as well as clothing with it and display it. It is no big deal to me but I do like watching heads explode.

 

It surely was!! Amen!!

[video]https://youtu.be/pcy7qV-BGF4[/video]

 

Cultural marxism???????

Was it cultural marxism when white southerners started using the Confederate flag as their symbol when they were fighting AGAINST civil rights?

The Confederate flag was a benign historical relic up until they brought it out and transformed it into the symbol of their bigotry.

 

You very poor source confirms what I have been saying. The war was about states rights by allowing slavery into the new states when the federal government said no. This was a showdown between the federal government and states, and although slavery may have been the underlying cause it was not the reason. Did you even watch your video?

 

and what are your feeling for this flag what does it represent to you? what is its history?

 

I got to this late but thus far, have not read of a poster that owns the confederate battle flag.

Well, I bought mine in VA when in that state on vacation.

I have 3 flags. Two of the USA, one flown from the mast of the sunken AZ at Pearl Harbor, made of cotton and registered for the date and time it flew, and one I bought to put outside on holidays. Made of Polyester I believe.

Actually my Battle flag was made in China. Go figure that.

 

You know, a heck of a lot is made of "so called flying the confederate flag" as if this was typical for the South. The flag did get flown. But why blame the rest of the South when the actual flyers were so few and had an agenda?

Do blacks have to live with what the Black Panthers did or just those who think and act as those guys did?

 

Actually it wasn't white southerns but a KKK organization in California during the the late 1940's or early 1950's who are the first display the Confederate battle flag.

Actually it was in Southern California so yeah, I suppose you can call them southerners.

 

Go ahead. Just keep finding ways to lie to YOURSELF.

Where this nation is headed, will sweep your misguided views to the side and move on. It's happening before our eyes... even now.

And I'm happy about that.

 

Right. Racists have always been behind the RACISM that flag represents. People keep lying to themselves about it, but decent and reasonable Americans can sense almost intuitively... that the flag (sometimes regrettably) isn't really a 'good' thing. For example: There may have been 'something' good about Nazi Germany... but reasonable people aren't going to rummage through all of that evil, in order to justify flying a Swastika, in front of their house. (Of course, Fascists, racists and separatists WOULD surely 'mine' the ideologies, writings, doctrines and actions of the Third Reich... to justify themselves in their thoughts and their actions. In America, malevolent racists do the same things... where it comes to symbols of the Confederacy.)

As a 21st century American, I'm not going to winnow through the racism, oppression, murder and the disregard for humanity in general... in order to justify people's embracing of the symbols of "The Old South". SCREW THAT!!!

 

The confederate flag is like the nazi flag...it is the flag of those that lost the war they started. It is also a symbol of hatred and bigotry. The Ku Klux Klan flies both those flags.

 

I agree with you there to a large extent.

But the Confederate flag was used as a symbol of hate by white opponants of the civil rights movement.

While I don't disagree with your observation, your point is weakened considerably by the fact taht the children of these very same people have trotted it back out and waved it in the fact of the Obama presidency, and it few from State House flagpoles in several southern states until last year.

 

This is perfect. I've never known anybody to fully embrace the fact that the confederate flag as a part of our tradition and history, and while some of the ideals aren't accepted today, the confederacy was actually cheated out of their existence. they were exercising a right established by our first forefathers, which was the right to overthrow or secede from an oppressive government, and the union was most definitely oppressive towards the rights of the southern part of the government.

How, you may ask? well it's simple. Even though in the eyes of today's society slavery and other such practices of the former south were labeled as horrific and uncivilized, back in that time period it was just another thing people did for a living. The confederates were simply trying to protect a human tradition of over thousands of years that had helped them become an economic success. They had an established Agriculturally based society, as had other developing nations had had, but in turn still gained the experience with business and manufacturing because of its exposure during it's former union with the northern states. Yet instead of leaving them in peace like a true follower of the forefather's beliefs, Lincoln exercised imperialistic military dominance, and therefore destroyed what would have become a booming nation that maintained a peace with the Northern Union.

All in all, the confederate flag represents a milestone in our history as a nation, and should not be frowned upon as a symbol of slavery or other such distinguished beliefs, but instead observed as one observes any artifact, with peace and respect.

 

They could have used black hats, ala how the Black Panthers did theirs, to show hate too. Blaming the flag makes no sense to me. I own the confederate battle flag but also own the US flag once flown from the mast of the sunken Battleship, AZ. My flag is registered and of record. It has papers showing the date and time it flew. I paid extra to get a dated flag.

Do I hate the Japanese since I have that flag?

I will enjoy history until my last breath. I find the South got blamed in my history books for things they were innocent of doing. It causes the people of the North and other states to hate the people of the South. They make things up about them in fact. We are supposed to believe that it was the South hating the negro. But how many negros could be citizens and live in the North? Where are the worst cities today for the black man?

It is just a diversion by the North types. They think Lincoln had some right to invade states. I happen to think presidents do not have such power. Lincoln was a tyrant, nothing more than a dictator.

He did not like the South leaving and used an Army and Navy to force humans to obey his will.