Nothing Exists Unless it was Created!

I could go and find some links for you, but this is only obvious. The perfect distance from the sun, the perfect amount of day and night, or plants and animals along with us would die. Obviously nothing but day time would result in a very hot planet. And nothing but night would result in no life. Earth has a perfect atmosphere for it's size, to hold life. Blocks out the perfect amount of radiation. I'm sure if I went on the list would never stop.

http://evolutionfaq.com/articles/probability-life
http://www.science20.com/news_relea...obability_of_life_on_other_earth_like_planets
http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S33/52/89I01/

 

Just another puddle in a pothole.

 

Why do people insist it has to be God. I believe, so I use God, but that does not need to be the case. The reason in which the universe cannot have always existed, is because EVERYTHING therein has a creation process. Meaning there is a process that must take place for anything that exists. Unless you know of something that does not have a creation process, and if so please enlighten me? This creation process can be traced back to it's origin, for anything. Like you, through a creation process, your parent's created you. Making it impossible for you, to be the reason as to how the universe came to be. That is why whatever has a creation process cannot be ignored on this matter.

 

You asked.

 

Self defeating fallacy based upon the assumption of a "creator" and a bogus "requirement" that "everything must be created".

Matter/energy exists and can neither be created not destroyed ergo it has always existed and will always exist.

No superstitions are required to support the laws of physics.

 

One would hope you are bright enough to understand that our Earth is not the only planet in the universe, and that "Life" can easily exist in circumstances other than found here. Hell there was a time we did not understand extremophiles either, or understand life could exist in the deepest, darkest places in our oceans. Imagining a silicone triple strand DNA is not hard to do.

 

Just remember, through your parent's you was created. Therefore you don't exist, without a creator. If this is a requirement for humans and all other forms of life, why would it be ridiculous to assume everything was created?

 

Given the sheer size of the universe those are actually excellent odds for life existing all over the universe. Astronomers estimate that there are 70 billion trillion (7 x 10 to power 22) stars in the observable universe alone. And each of those stars probably has a couple of planets each.

The odds of winning the life lottery are virtually guaranteed given the abundance and diversity of life on this planet in even the most extreme of conditions.

We first detected planets about 25 years ago and we have already found several in the "Goldilocks zone" for earth like conditions of liquid water on the surface. And that is only what we can see given our limited instrumentation. The odds of detecting life on another planet in the next century are excellent IMO.

 

Your circular logic has already been noted so thanks for reiterating it but you did nothing to address what I said nor refute it, you just made the circle a little bigger.

 

I agree, however in all the years of humans, there is still only one place with life. And to be alive on that place, no matter what form of life, that life form had to be created. Even in terms of plants, they must shed their seed, to continue that life form. Therefore one cannot help but ask, where did the first plant come from? And if all life evolved from one organism or dna, where then did that come from? And how ridiculous does that sound, that all life came from one organism or dna anyways? I mean if we all originated from the same life form, why then can certain life forms only create their particular life form? But yet the first organism could create them all.

 

Actually I stated that you are just another puddle in a pothole. If you don't get the reference look it up, if you do get the reference your response makes no sense.

 

Well, just leave it at that then.

 

Your misinterpretation of the term "creation" is your problem.

The actual term that applies to the propagation of a species is reproduction since it is life reproducing itself in a manner conducive to surviving in an environment that is not constant.

Planets form out of aggregations of dust and gases acted upon by gravitational forces. You are deliberately ignoring the known laws of physics.

Your superstitious distortion of known scientific terminology does not invalidate the facts.

Yes, you have been proven wrong because you are using fallacious terms that are irrelevant when dealing with reality.

 

Assumes facts NOT in evidence.

The universe exists therefore it must always have existed.

Your deity does not exist therefore it has never existed.

 

They will never find life anywhere other than Earth. Not because I believe it doesn't exist. But because humans will destroy themselves long before that. I mean if we find life on another planet, I can guarantee there will be war over that planet. And the technology it would take to get there, or even find it, would be used for war as opposed to discovery.

 

Oh I get it, everything in the universe fit inside a tiny dot. Why didn't I think of that, it makes perfect sense. I mean just because a mountain doesn't fit inside a car, does not make it a fact. It's gonna fit damn it!

 

This is a misleading proposition. A logically flawed statement that cannot convince everybody but a few religious believers. I am unconvinced. How do you say God propagates itself. There must be something, the last thing, the father of all in your opinion. This presumption is unconvincing.

 

Actually I don't get it. Problem is, I feel it's a waste of time to research such elementary name calling.

 

Nothing in our physical universe can exist without being created. God does not have a physical existence. Not as we know it. So He was not created. Before the universe was created, there was only God. Eternal. Omnipotent. Scientists tell us that energy always existed. If you can believe that, why do you deny a eternal Creator? Could it be that you reject Him because He expects you to worship Him? It all boils down to the sin of pride. You refuse to admit that you are unacceptable to God. That you are a sinner. That you need to be saved. This is pride.

 

Therefore by your own logic and argument God must have been created, that is the problem theists face they cannot respond to infinite regression and yet they use it until it gets to the point where they claim God is the prime source and then ignore it.

and I would argue that is a load of crap.

 

Wrong. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. There is no evidence that time/space/matter did not exist. There is also no evidence for the Biblical deity you believe in.

 

Actually because I happen to believe in God, I use Him as the creator. From a scientific standpoint, one does not have to use God for my theory. However whatever they do use, must not have a creation process. Otherwise it is an infinite question on how that particular choice of, "someone or something", came to be. That is why I rule out the universe. Not only does everything therein have a creation process, but the current theory suggests a beginning. And before that beginning, there was no stars, galaxies, form, or structure.

 

Whatever let's you sleep at night.

 

Rather than display your absolute ignorance and wear it as a clown badge, I suggest you take a few moments and type "Plant Evolution" into your browser....there you will find an enormous amount of information. After doing so, repeat this process but replace the search with "Abiogenesis. This will require you to remove the religious blinders however and think a bit. Basically, while you have been sitting in a pew thousands of scientists have been spending many, many years and hundreds of thousand of hours discovering the answers you request.

 

Do you ever actually read what you write?

Once again you just contradicted yourself.

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Yet another bizarre non sequitur response from you.