Does Immigration Mean The End Of Western Civilization?

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  1. Space_Time

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    How prophetic is 'The Camp of the Saints'? Does immigration really mean the end of western civilization? What can or should the West do?

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/05/does-immigration-mean-the-end-of-western-civilization/

    Does Immigration Mean The End Of Western Civilization?
    In 1973, French novelist Jean Raspail wrote a prophetic book predicting Western Civilization would be threatened by mass immigration.
    John Daniel Davidson
    By John Daniel Davidson
    MARCH 5, 2016
    Europe is more than a year into the largest migrant crisis since the Second World War. More than a million have made their way to Germany alone over the past year. Some are refugees and asylum-seekers from Syria and Iraq, but it now appears that a significant number, as much as 60 percent, are economic migrants from North Africa, Afghanistan, and the Middle East, simply seeking better prospects in Europe.

    The European Union, thanks to its common border policy, is overwhelmed and paralyzed—that border union has proven to be only as strong as its weakest member. Once inside the EU, migrants can travel to whichever country seems most welcoming inside the 26-state Schengen area. Some countries, in defiance of EU rules, have imposed unilateral border controls and asylum caps as thousands more arrive daily from Turkey and elsewhere. EU leaders recently agreed to an emergency measure that allows Great Britain to restrict welfare benefits for EU migrants even as a so-called “Brexit,” or a British exit from the EU, looms as a real possibility.


    Europeans leaders are of course trying to downplay the severity of the crisis even as its disruptive effects become impossible to ignore. On New Year’s Eve in cities across Germany, gangs of Arab and North African men, some of whom were later discovered to be asylum-seekers, robbed and sexually assaulted scores of women. Before police had completed their investigation, the European Commission declared there was “no link” between the migrant crisis and the attacks, the incidents were merely “a matter of public order.” Fearing a xenophobic backlash, the commission proclaimed itself “the voice of reason.”

    Late Measures Are Cold Comfort
    Such talk has been common in Europe over the past year. But it’s cold comfort for a growing number of Europeans who have waning confidence that their governments are able or willing to stop the flow of migrants. One February poll found 58 percent of Germans want border controls to keep out migrants even if it hurts the economy, and more than half don’t believe it will be possible to integrate migrants into German society. Across the continent, political leaders are losing popular support.

    German Chancellor Angela Merkel’s approval rate is at a four-year low, with only 46 percent of Germans supporting her (from a high of 75 percent in April 2015). François Hollande could become the first sitting French president to face a primary challenge from within his own party as it becomes clear he could lose a 2017 contest to the right-wing National Front’s Marine Le Pen over the migrant crisis.

    The problem for Europe’s leaders, as Douglas Murray wrote recently in The Spectator, is that voters simply don’t believe they will do anything:

    Now there are the usual attempts to crowd-please from certain politicians and officials who are talking about how they might have to deport these people. But they won’t, will they? Does anybody honestly believe that the Swedish authorities are currently preparing to deport 80,000 fake asylum seekers from their country?

    […] Given that it has taken in more than a million people in the last twelve months, is Germany now going to deport as many as three quarters of a million fake asylum seekers from its territory? Of course not. They will not even attempt it. Everybody in Europe knows that. And everybody following events and weighing up their chances from outside Europe knows that.
    A Prophetic, Apocalyptic Tale
    All of this calls to mind a 1973 novel by French writer Jean Raspail—The Camp of the Saints, an apocalyptic tale about the collapse of European civilization. Much of it could be lifted from the news coming out of Europe. In the book, one million impoverished Indians make their way by boat from the Ganges to the shores of southern France with no intention of adopting French ways; they come simply to claim for themselves what Europeans have and they do not.

    At the heart of the novel is a moral question: Is the West willing to defend itself?
     
  2. Brewskier

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    Muslims attempted to conquer Europe in the 17th Century and were beaten back at the Gates of Vienna. Their defeat caused a long period of decline in the Muslim world, but that world has become active again. This time, instead of using a marching army to invade countries, they are simply sending their people in as "refugees", bleeding dry the infidel welfare systems, and out-reproducing the native population. This way, they will become the majority eventually in every country they attempt to invade. This is, of course, celebrated by white leftists in Europe, who are always on the lookout for another disenfranchised non-white, non-Western minority group that will vote the right way.

    There are signs of life in Europe, with right-wing groups becoming more active, and possibly gaining power in some countries, but things are going to have to get worse first. Cultural Marxism has been like an AIDS virus in European society, attacking the immune system that would have normally repelled these invaders. It will take some time to reboot this immune system.
     
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    Yea, Muslims have invaded north quite a few times but have always been pushed back. I am sure this time will be no different the only question is what form it will take. I imagine that when this blows up it will be far more violent then the past wars they fought.
     
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    I wouldn't only blame European treacherous elites. The U.S political elites played a big part in European demise. For example, the U.S created a Muslim state in Bosnia and another one in Kosovo. Those lands historically always belonged to Croats and Serbs. The U.S opened up the Balkans corridor for the latest 'invasion' of Muslim immigrants.
    The most worrying part for me is the U.S pressure on the EU to accept Turkey into the European Union. That would be an absolute disaster. Another 80-90 million Muslims free to roam around the continent.
     
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    I'm not giving the US a pass. Look at the Mexican invasion. The US is no better.
     
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    Legal immigration, no. Illegal immigrants just flooding in , yes.
     
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    It's high time people started holding our political elites accountable. I think we owe it to the future generations. If actions aren't taken, our genetic code will be completely destroyed over next 50 years. Perhaps that is the plan.
     
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    The left has a big political benefit in making whites minorities in every country on Earth, even in their own countries.
     
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    Only if Americans allow it by NOT upholding the constitution.

    The infiltration of the government attacked the Middle East destroying the existing order creating chaos to drive Muslims out and destabilize the rest of the world.

    Americans FAILING to support the constitution assures a degradation brought on by immigration.

    The failure of Americans to agree upon constitutional intent is the beginning of failure to defend and uphold the constitution which also begins the degradation to standards known by immigrants.

    When you fail to go to this thread;

    lawful and peaceful revolution

    And affirmatively answer this inquiry;

    Do you agree and accept that the framers of the founding documents intended for us to alter or abolish government destructive to our unalienable rights?

    Do you agree and accept that the ultimate purpose of free speech is to enable the unity adequate to effectively alter or abolish?


    You are by default, approving of the degradation because you are not upholding OUR standard.
     
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    Importing poverty, the unskilled, the uneducated, radical religion that expect you to conform to it's needs, etc. IS the beginning of the end of ANY evolved civilization.
     
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    Hey, we're trying. But it's hard to combat insanity when the asylum patients are the ones running the barn. Europeans know that lesson all too well.
     
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    It's simple math. Look at the majority of the people coming here and look at the state of their countries historically. They bring what they know and all they know is failure.

    Now, why on earth would any logical, intelligent person think that's a good idea when you know the end result? How's that working for central and South America? Pretty badly. Why would it be any different when they all come here? It only brings us down. Statistics don't lie and are not racist. They're reality. Racism is taking measures to force out one race for another. Doesn't look good for successful white people any more. This is why Liberals and Democrats never know what they're talking about.
     
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    Yes......Yes and Yes......
     
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    If one read 'Camp of the Saints' 20 years ago you would think 'what an interesting piece of fiction'........if you read it today you think 'what a great piece of non-fiction'.........
     
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    We should be more grateful our Founding Fathers did such an excellent job at the convention with our supreme law of the land.

    We have a Statue of Liberty, what could go wrong?
     
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    Did western colonization and imperialism mean the end of the indigenous populations that it subjugated?
    Immigration today is the predictable consequence of colonialism.
    Karma can be a (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), eh?
     
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    Said the man who enjoys the fruits of hundreds of years of White Western Civiization........be sure to tell them you are a 'liberal/progressive' and think their culture is superior when they come for you........
     
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    You've lived your entire life benefitting from it. You don't plan to ever stop benefitting from it. You don't plan on giving anything of yours back to the "indigenous populations" that you pine for over the internet. Apparently all you need to do in order to assuage this guilt and blame is to simply acknowledge it over the internet. How brave.

    http://takimag.com/article/diagnosing_passover_syndrome_among_white_liberals/print#axzz42KJd6Zrw
     
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    Basically the same crap that White Anglo-Saxon Protestants made in the 1840s with the Irish ...

    or in the 1890s with the Italians, Eastern European, Russian immigrants.


    Even more ironic...it comes from folks who themselves are descendents of hated Irish or German or Italian immigrants. :)
     
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    European and Americans are giving lesser numbers of babies than they used to a couple of decades ago. Now the population is on the decline and if there is no migration there will be no workforce and as such it is migrants who is pillaring their economies.
     
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    Those immigrants were part of White Western Civilization........the current Mayan invasion in the U.S. and Arab/African invasion of Europe is not.......see the difference there?
     
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    No, just the search-radius of bigots' and racists' hatred has expanded. :)


    BTW, there's an opening at a Bird Refuge building available for them. :)
     
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    Lol...Yeah, you're very transparent.
     
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    What did you see?.......LMAO
     
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    Why don't you soften up the Saudis with a similar rhetoric, and maybe they won't spank you, just laugh. Mexico can also reveal its humanitarian side by dismantling the fences along its southern border and let the unaccompanied crawl up its...
     

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