The Time Ted Cruz Defended a Ban on Sex Toys

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  1. JoeSixpack

    JoeSixpack New Member

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    Disagreeing with the implementation of a supremacist law isn't the same thing as not understanding the way it is supposed to work. Yes your illiteracy/ignorance shows.
     
  2. Gorn Captain

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    According to some college roommates of Cruz, this is a little ironic given they say Ted....

    spent a lot of "alone time". :)
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Well then I know you know I know but what you don't know is that you don't know you don't know, so there.

    Blaming 9/11 on Clinton is about the most bogus thing cons do. 9/11 was hardly even thought of until after Bush was in office and none of the conspirators were even in the country until after 2001. It is documented fact that Bush was warned of the conspiracy and told the warner. "you've covered your ass now" and ignored it utterly.

    Your boy was asleep at the switch. Just like your ideology is still mired in the 18th or 12th century. Hopefully, Hillary's improvements to the US and the world will finally shock you out of your delusional fantasy, good luck.
     
  4. Your Best Friend

    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    The "some college roommates said" standard of truth and verity ranks right up there with scrawled messages about
    the reputations of some girls one can still find on certain public bathroom walls. It's very appropriate therefore in this thread designed to smear Ted Cruz
    for malicious gossip to raise it's ugly head.
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Senator from New York

    Jesus, talk about your low-info voters.
     
  6. Gorn Captain

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    What "smear" of Cruz....is the OP Subject Line not accurate???

    - - - Updated - - -

    Here's where the Hillary Derangement Syndromers "move the goal-posts" and say "That was an easy election, doesn't count."
     
  7. Your Best Friend

    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    Something tells me you might be vaguely aware that the thread title is not the sum and total of an entire thread based on a hit piece by a notorious progressive propaganda machine.
    Your comment about what "some roommates said" only confirms the bias of a slur that totally discounts the fact that Ted Cruz, as Attorney General for the state of Texas, was bound by his position to defend any legal action brought against the state.

    In a piece that makes it seem like Cruz was taking on this crusade against the sale and advertising of sex toys in Texas because of personal zeal, rather than professional duty, your comment matches the low level of the smear and then goes it one better.
     
  8. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    but yesterday Cruz's wife said Ted did not do things he did not believe in.....

    cruz is the guy the will shut down the entire government if he doesn't get his way

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  9. Your Best Friend

    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    I guess doing his job as Attorney General for Texas was something he believed in.

    Would you say the same about Barry Obama because HE is the one that shut down the federal government when Congress (led by Cruz, Paul, Lee primarily) was blackmailed by Reid and Obama and their ultimatum....give me more money or I'll close down the government and make sure the media blames you for it all.

    Ted Cruz didn't have the authority or power to shut down a mail box! Let alone the federal government itself. Wake up.
     
  10. AlphaOmega

    AlphaOmega Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what part of the 911 attacks were planned under clinton, the uss cole and the first wtc attack all under clinton doesnt connect inside your head...I have to know...this is fascinating.
     
  11. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess he also believed sex toys should be banned

    hard to blame democrats the for the gov shutdown when republicans stated before hand they were gonna shutdown the government if they did not get their way

    it's like trying to blame Obama for his SC pick when before hand republicans said they would not give anyone a chance that he picked

    if republicans want to lie and blame the other side, they need to learn to keep their mouths shut and not let their plans leak to the public

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  12. Your Best Friend

    Your Best Friend Well-Known Member

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    Yes...according to you.

    Let me patiently explain again that only the party in power is capable of shutting down the government. It is not possible for the republicans to declare certain government offices will close down. They aren't running things.

    ???
    Is it? I can't even decipher the logic here but you've twice declared things that just cannot be proven or are not possible are so. So I have to feel like once more you are making stuff up.

    Sure, ummm...okay.
     
  13. Think for myself

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    Important to note nowhere in the description of the office of the Texas Solicitor General is anything that states that the job is to defend all or any laws of the state.

    It clearly notes that part of the job is to provide advice on the constitutionality of laws, which this law was later determine to be unconstitutional.

    Defending the prohibition of the sale of sex toys was in no way, shape, nor form a requirement of Cruz's job as Solicitor General.

    https://texasattorneygeneral.gov/agency/office-of-solicitor-general


    As the chief appellate lawyer for the State of Texas, the Solicitor General supervises all appellate litigation on behalf of the Office of the Attorney General. The Office of Solicitor General (OSG) approves all civil and criminal appeals in state and federal courts involving the state, its agencies and its officials. OSG also directly handles those appeals determined to be most significant to Texas and to the development of federal and state jurisprudence and appears on occasion in federal and state trial courts on matters implicating the state's most critical interests. In addition, OSG regularly authors amicus curiae briefs for submission to the U.S. Supreme Court and other courts across the nation.

    The Solicitor General is the state's chief litigator in the U.S. Supreme Court and the Texas Supreme Court. In addition, as a member of the Attorney General's executive leadership team, the Solicitor General serves as a top legal advisor to the Attorney General and advises other agency lawyers and state officials on complex constitutional and other legal matters.

    Established in January 1999, the Texas OSG is expressly modeled after the Office of the Solicitor General at the U.S. Department of Justice. The federal OSG was created through the Statutory Authorization Act of June 22, 1870, which provides that "[t]here shall be in the Department of Justice an officer learned in the law, to assist the Attorney General in the performance of his duties, to be called the Solicitor General."

    The Texas OSG appears regularly before the Supreme Court of the United States, the Supreme Court of Texas, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, and the intermediate state courts of appeals. Since 1999, OSG attorneys have presented hundreds of oral arguments in the U.S. Supreme Court, the Texas Supreme Court, the en banc Fifth Circuit, and other federal and state courts—including arguments before every intermediate court of appeals in Texas. OSG has won numerous Best Brief Awards from the National Association of Attorneys General (NAAG) for briefs filed in the U.S. Supreme Court.

    The Solicitor General of Texas is supported by two deputies, over a dozen assistant solicitors general and a highly dedicated support staff.
     
  14. JoeSixpack

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    I could type slower for you but I doubt it would help you much.

    Please feel free to explain in your best religious nut job stance (because this is all it is about, making people comply to religious dogma of sheepherders from 2000 years past) as to why selling sex toys to consenting adults in this day and age should be a crime, and rationalize if you dare why the tax payers should have their hard earned money wasted with LEO's stalking them, arresting them, convicting & incarcerating them, and why this is such a moral imperative, so rational folks can get a good laugh
     
  15. Your Best Friend

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    Actually, as one might expect of the state's chief legal officer, defending the state when Texas is brought to court is duty number one for the office of Texas Attorney General:

    "The Attorney General is charged by the state constitution to defend the laws
    and constitution of Texas" /wiki/Texas_Attorney_General

    So apparently you are actually 180 degrees out of sync with the purpose of the office of Attorney General in Texas, as mandated by the state constitution. Far from NOT being charged with defending the state and it's laws in court (as one might expect of the state's top legal officer to be) Ted Cruz, and any attorney general of any state, find that their chief duty and reason for being is expressly FOR defending the state and it's laws in court.

    So congratulate yourself for being uninformed, whether intentionally or not, with what the Texas AG is charged to do and why the office exists. Most people would just correctly assume the state's top lawyer would defend his client (the state itself) in court when sued.
     
  16. In The Dark

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    Non sequiter, Baby.

    It's Ted's job. That's it. It's a dutifully passed law. As AG, he's charged with standing up for Texas law.

    Don't like the law?

    CHANGE IT, OBEY IT OR RISK THE STATE'S GUN.

    The rules are childishly simple. And I'll no doubt need to explain this again.
     
  17. Gorn Captain

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    BTW, I KNOW why Ted Cruz tried to defend the law against dildos.....





    it's because he wanted to be the ONLY phony d**k in Texas.

    :)
     
  18. JoeSixpack

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    Part of his job is to litigate for the state, he is also the council for the state determining which appeals cases are most significant to the state, and it's interests, and which ones are actually constitutional or not. That is some of his duties.

    Obviously this law is not significant in any way to the state or in the best interest of anybody, and they are selling sex toys now because in his expert opinion he actually believed that it was the states right to dictate to the individuals on matters of privacy, and it was found by the court "HIS" opinion on the matter was unconstitutional. Ironic since his job is to determine constitutionality at both the federal and state level.

    In any case the law was wrong, it was intrusive, and unconstitutional for the state to pass or enforce such stupidity. He and the AG of Texas should have known that before they wasted so much of the tax payers money on such nonsense to begin with. If he was ordered to defend the law whomever ordered him to do so is an idiot, and if he volunteered he is just as big an idiot, because he should have known better. That is what his job requires.

    AND... no citizens should not just stand by and let government run rough shod over them at will with idiotic laws, and intrusive unconstitutional abuses of power/authority. That would be submitting to tyranny, but the American way, the principles that made this once great nation great was questioning authority, and never allowing the people to become subjects of tyrannical supremacists ever again.

    So grow the (*)(*)(*)(*) up and stand up for your rights a free man, not a cowardly subject. Submitting to tyranny is not patriotic, and it sure as hell isn't childish.
     
  19. Zorro

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    I think his finest moment was when he called lyin Mitch McConnell a liar on the Senate floor.
     
  20. yguy

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    Lemme help y'out here, pilgrim. First, Attorney General and Solicitor General are not the same office in Texas. Second, wiki is almost always a crummy source for legal info, since authoritative sources are almost always available online.
     
  21. JakeJ

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    This topic actually is VERY relevant as it is the nature of the cased before the Supreme Court that he won 4 out of 7.

    He portrays himself as a constitutional expert in the context of using the constitution to limit government power over people, BUT IN FACT he was arguing for the government having virtual total power over people as he was arguing specifically for extreme government power AGAINST people.
     
  22. In The Dark

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    You know more than the AG.

    Run for the job and America will be paradise.
     
  23. Your Best Friend

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    Cruz was the top appellate lawyer for the state of Texas. So how does that change the role of Cruz in this issue? I don't think it does.

    If Wikipedia was giving false information on this matter be sure to let me know. Otherwise, once more, this amounts to petty quibbling and the basic facts of the issue
    haven't changed at all.
     
  24. yguy

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    That has nothing to do with me, obviously, as all I did was set the record straight as to the position Cruz held.
     
  25. Gorn Captain

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    Bumper sticker from the National Dildo Association-


    "Dildos Don't Give Orgasms, People Do!!!!"
     

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