Confirmed – Philando Castile Was an Armed Robbery Suspect

Topics should be discussed in reality.

If a police officer stops you, and you see the officer has his sidearm drawn, and you have a pistol on your lap? You better have your hands up in the air, on the dash or top of the steering wheel or you are very likely going to be shot.

Dozens of police are murdered each year and many hundreds are shot. Most often this is on a surprise attack during a traffic stop.

Have a gun in view and play games with police at the same time? It is a deadly game you likely will lose. Some things are quite simple to understand.

Since - if this all is true - the woman in the car was outright lying, then it also is likely true that the officer stating he told him not to reach for his gun also is the truth.

 

Explain how "Democrats outlaw poor people from having guns". This statement is political ignorance.

I will agree that like the Bible, Democrats want to help the poor. Therefor, the poor vote Democrat. Democratic STATES in our REPUBLIC also see a difference in gun laws between the streets and the country. See Sanders on gun regulation. If that doesn't work, try searching "control", the word you like to use.

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Show that law or derp.

 

In Minnesota it does. You can legally open carry with a permit. https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=624.714

 

Bias media is creating paranoia. What YOU have to think about is this;

If a black person runs from a cop that say's freeze, should the cop shoot this person?

Is the person running away a life risk to the cop or should the cop call for backup and just pin the person down and arrest.

Further, if the person is pinned down by two cops and yelling "whatever threats", is it ok for the cop to shoot this person in the head?

 

OK, I was unfamiliar with Minn law. But would you agree that if an officer tells you not to reach for it and the person does not comply that would be a reason for the officer to fear for his life?

 

And the 2A says that someone that robbed a bank yesterday can carry a weapon. The Republic states can make their laws, but will it hold up in a Republican ran Supreme Court?

 

That is a different case than the one of this topic. Which specific case are you talking about? Your questions are too lacking in details to answer.

1 &2. Law is fairly specific in each state when an officer may shoot a person running for the police and when the officer may not.

3. It depends how the person is "pinned down," what potential danger the person poises in real terms, and what actual threats are yelled in relation to that potential danger.

If your point is has any police officer ever wrongly (ie murder/manslaughter) ever killed someone the answer is absolutely yes. So?

 

If that really was a gun on his lap, that would explain a lot of things. Like when the officer says, "I told him not to reach for it."

Police generally do not tell people not to reach for their wallets.

I'm not going to speculate anymore than that, and I'll wait for something official.

 

Certainly. Putting myself in the officer's shoes, if I ordered someone to not touch a gun sitting on their lap and they did, I would shoot that person. At that range I'm pretty sure I would use a head shot too.

If I had a gun sitting in my lap and was pulled over, I'd put my hands on my head and ask the cop what he wants me to do. Now I'm sure I wouldn't have a gun sitting in my lap in the first place, which leads to the question of why did he have the gun in his lap? I'm not saying that's illegal, but I've been pulled over before and my gun is always properly holstered where it's safe and non-threatening.

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Umm, sure it does.

 

What a shame that media lies and BS are responsible for igniting ignorant racist people to shoot white cops.

 

How does that differ from what the media does? They are who should leave Planet Earth forever. They rant on and on about crap based on pure lies all the time.

And people here post stories from HuffPo, Salon, Mother Earth, etc, all the time. Those stories are nothing but blogs and have zero credibility.

I would guess the story in this thread has much more truth to it than what we first heard on "the news". Never forget the lies of Trayvon. Never forget the lies of Ferguson. And so on and so on. How many more cop acquittals are we going to see before people realize the media perpetrates nothing but lies?

 

Really? Democratic locales with high % of Black voters have some of the most draconian gun laws in the US. Not so in places where there are large numbers of Republicans or NRA members. Your statement is a total lie and a liberal fantasy.

 

The American Media is the greatest disappointment of all time. Remember an era where they could be trusted? Not anymore, because they sensationalize and distort the facts, for ratings, clicks and money. Their profession necessitates them to create a story, but it's not "fiction", it's REAL with real consequences.

 

Also from this site : http://forums.officer.com/t206228/#post3906465

I am here in Minnesota and the man did indeed have a valid permit issued from a neighboring county. It was issued when he lived in the city of Robbinsdale, a first ring suburb of Minneapolis. Robbinsdale is in Hennepin county. He lived in Ramsey county at the time of his death.

 

So he was stopped because "The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ‘cause of the wide set nose.” . If that is the reason then it sounds like he was stopped because that policeman thinks "wide set nose" = black in his mindset

 

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1) The corporate owned media is out for #1, their profit margin. 90% of all the media outlets in the US are owned by 6 corporations (source) They have a stranglehold on just about everything you see and read. Still, some of the poorly educated insist it is conservative or liberal , which is wrong. Professional journalism is dead in the world of corporate news.

2) The OP's post, even as unverified as it is, still creates a rational argument that Philando Castile was not an innocent angel the apologists have contorted him to look like.

 

Except there are not any facts in the OP.

Firstly directly from a link he provided: http://forums.officer.com/t206228/#post3906465
I am here in Minnesota and the man did indeed have a valid permit issued from a neighboring county. It was issued when he lived in the city of Robbinsdale, a first ring suburb of Minneapolis. Robbinsdale is in Hennepin county. He lived in Ramsey county at the time of his death.


So that clears the CCW allegation.

The other allegation is the traffic stop reason. The policeman states that the reason was "The driver looks more like one of our suspects, just ‘cause of the wide set nose.” which is in some ways racist so he may very well have told the driver that his tail light was not working because he did not want to say that he was stopped for being black

 

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Excuse me but where did I say the OP's post was factual? I said it presented a "rational argument", which is not the same. Moreover, I stated it was "unverifiable"...which you missed in your haste to present your opinion on this topic. At this juncture, everything is hearsay and not evidence of fact. That's why we have courts of law, to ferret out the facts

 

Yea, I have to admit you're right and I apologise.

 

Are you kidding! The LIB media? LOL Don't hold your breath..

 

I read somewhere that he did have a concealed carry license from another county.

 

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I was being sort of snarky in that reply, thus owe you an apology.

 

Several hours after the post and no confirmation of unconfirmed blog from any other source.

I'm sorry, "the media is in on it" doesn't cut if with scoops of the century. Barring any further confirmation this is obviously bogus.

 

the guy had no police record beyond many traffic stops. this thread is bogus.

 

How is a large nose "somewhat racist"?