The blacks are 100% responsible for their problems !

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    A lot of Jewish Americans came to the U.S.A in the early 20th century with next to nothing, and about 1 in 5 Jewish American households are millionaires.

    So, are Jews also part of the good old boy Anglo network, or did they value education, and hard work?

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    Black Americans have received tons of money in the form of welfare, Medicaid, public housing, and so forth.
     
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    Wow Channe. How did you arrive at this point? Not that I disagree with you. I fully agree. But in these times, you are a rare standout among blacks and many whites. Glad to be sharing the inner sanctum of sanity with you. I would add that responsibility should also extend to those shameless opportunistic whites in the media and politics who stir up and use the discontent to their own ends.
     
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    That's not at all what he's saying. It's how you respond to war, slavery and natural catastrophes. Do you wear the 'pity me cloak, I can never rise above this' for the rest of eternity or do you move up and on?
    What has Jackson, Sharpton, Wright and Obama done to improve race relations?
     
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    So have white ppl so this isnt reparations as the jewish received for the holocaust is it. Facts ate facts. 400 years of slavery at a cost of 18 million lives and not a penny. Jewish list a fraction of lives and were persecuted for a fraction of the time yet they received billions in reparation payments and not 1 penny for so called african americans. Facts.

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    Who is asking for pity exactly?
     
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    You'll just have to grab them bootstraps and provide your own reparations, because that's all you're gonna get.

    Really, just give this nonsense up. Nobody is going to pay blacks because their great great great great grandfather was a slave.

    Not gonna happen.
     
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    was i asking? All thats being stayed is the fallacy of comparing so called african american predicament to those who received the golden handshake is lunacy. You failed to comprehend the discussion . Back up
     
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    the whole world was going slavery.

    Africa still has slavery.

    we lost 500,000 lives fighting a civil war, that was in part about slavery.

    we have spent trillions of dollars on social programs that help black people.


    we Jews got money and infrastructure for Israel to build a country for ourselves, and to compensate actual persons and their children for crimes committed against them.
     
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    Don't expect them to give money on that scale; they'd just prefer that lip service will fix all the problems the perceive.
     
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    What golden handshake?

    Tell me, why did whites go clear across the atlantic to get slaves? We got here and found a bunch of natives that would have been great slaves, all except for one thing. They weren't really good slaves. Somehow the thought of being a slave was just too much for them, so they fought against that idea.

    Now why didn't the african slaves fight against being enslaved like the indians did?

    They fought because there is no golden handshake, and they figured they would rather die free men than live as slaves. You want freedom? You risk your life for it.

    Golden handshake? lololol!!!! There is no golden handshake. You want some gold? Then get a pan and go find some gold. If you can't be arsed to do that, then... don't complain.
     
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    The plight of the black American is a luxury to a black person in Haiti, South Africa, and probably every country everywhere else. With today's modern communications, if there were a country more accommodating than America; then blacks would be migrating there and we would know of it - it would not be some version of a modern day 'underground railroad,' going on. The United Nations made a review of black Americans mind-set when they heard testimony from Michael Browns' parents in Geneva - they returned to their home in Ferguson rather than seek refuge. The United Nations is understands that people who are discriminated and tortured, seek refuge - leaving behind all that they had.

    I believe that the only grievance that blacks can reasonably argue is that White Man broke their culture, and that White Man is responsible for correcting it. This is something that was considered in the 1800's - it is nothing new. But what is new, is the technology that we have to work with.

    Ultimately, the black man has to admit that they do not know how to correct their culture, and that means White Man is their organizational leader. For some reason they believe that they can correct things by coercing white people to see things there way; and unbeknownst to them, white people are ultimately charged with writing the legislation, because the Congressional Black Caucus cannot generate anything.
     
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    What's incredible is that blacks aren't asking for reparations. They're asking for equal treatment and in some cases (like education) a chance to catch up.

    And the minute they say anything...the response is "Well we're not going to give you reparations".

    That's not what they're asking for.
     
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    What golden handshake? Why are you asking if you already know the answers. Read my recent previous posts im not repeating cuz of your laziness
     
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    so you're saying we Jews didn't deserve some compensation from Germany, for their crimes against our people, the Jews?
     
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    Although I'm a liberal in almost all areas, i must agree with you on this. I'm a white male, but i've lived and thrived in cultures where I was in a minority and my race was held against me. How did I thrive? By being more hard working, honest, helpful and open to learning about the majority culture and respectful of the majority culture than anyone else around me.
    Why are blacks discriminated against in the US? TBH, because the vast majority of blacks act like complete jerks. A minority of blacks are hardworking, adaptable and respect the majority culture. And, ironically, these blacks are called 'Oreos' by the jerk blacks (black on the outside, white on the inside).
    Why do young black men get suspended from public school, locked up and killed much more often than whites? Because MOST of them act like flipping thugs.
    Blacks need to clean up their acts, get a job and a tie, straighten out their young men and stop whining. Then the would experience much less discrimination.
    And this is from a lifelong liberal.

    Oh, and the whining about slavery? There isn't any culture in the world that hasn't been conquered, enslaved, mass murdered or some awful thing by someone in the past. Get over it and move on.
     
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    If you want to point to a reason there is racial tensions in this country, look no further than this thread and it's OP.

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    Look everyone! It's sweeping generalization time!
     
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    One generalizes based on experience. And I've had a good deal of experience. I'm simply reporting what I'm seeing.
    Saying black activist are right any time they open their mouths is a common knee jerk reaction on the left (where I live, btw). Agreeing with blacks when they're wrong is simply unwise.
     
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    There are black organizations (they are probably defunct by now), that have asked for reparations - we will have to review the Democrat platform. If that is not in there then can we consider it to be off the table forever, and that black people in the future do not ask for it, or is it always going to be an option?

    Equal treatment. What is not equal is the black person's ability to understand that providing the American white man's wonderful world of Disney for their sons and daughters is difficult. Black people have been given almost every perceivable government assistance to relieve their grievances, and the wealthiest and most powerful among the blacks, have nothing to offer. And the irony of it is that there are black congressional leaders who now carry the water for a privileged white woman.
     
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    Surely you're smart enough to know that your "extensive experience" is limited to a fraction of a % of black people? Yet, you seem comfortable making blanket statements about the majority of them, as if you know. That is the definition of ignorance. Perhaps you aren't as experienced as you claim.
     
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    Slavery was different in America - different technology and environment in play. In the ancient world slaves were much more willing because there was nothing to do, anyway. The markets for the economies were just tremendously sparse - you couldn't just go out and get a job washing dishes if you needed some grub and coin. By the time the Civil War rolled around things were heading towards that. certainly the northern population believed blacks could handle the micro-economics.

    Liberals unwittingly accept that there are a lot of people in the dumb part of the bell curve, and pretend that it does not exist; or that they are being oppressed by the offensive people.
     
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    Oh look, anecdotal evidence for a sweeping generalization lol
     
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    Please show me anentire nation that was enslaved for 400 years? Im waiting...
     
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    there is no nation on Earth that was enslaved for 400 years.
     
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    generalizing has always made people look educated and it certainly gives them the upper hand morally and logically in any argument

    only the people on the right side of history have claimed that entire races are vile and inferior
     
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    Israel was enslaved for 400 years. There is no other nation ppl this happened to so lets drop the " oh weve all been persecuted enslaved and genocided bs thanks
     
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    3,000 years ago.
     

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